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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:40 am
by pidgey
Explain me again why gamma is town because of the night kills?

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:42 am
by Jodaxq
In post 3625, pidgey wrote:Explain me again why gamma is town because of the night kills?
What do you mean? Shaz claimed he vigged Dunker so Elbirn was likely shot by scum. Unless you're talking about last night's kills?

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:51 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3621, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 3586, Gamma Emerald wrote:it is multiball, I think that counters
plus joda's role is probs random
I don't like this post. The "I think that counters" just feels kind of forced.
By that I meant "I think it counters the too many protectives argument"
better?

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:51 am
by pidgey
In post 3572, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3563, pidgey wrote:
In post 3494, Shaziro wrote:I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.
Good first shot. BAD SECOND SHOT. WHY NOT KILL GAMMA!!!!!!!!!!! Why
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You are aware of what Shaz' claim means right?

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:08 am
by Almost50
@Shaz/@Chara: Both of you casting your delegates (and at least one delegate is on brass) locks the WC. Thank you

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:10 am
by brassherald
In post 3629, Almost50 wrote:@Shaz/@Chara: Both of you casting your delegates (and at least one delegate is on brass) locks the WC. Thank you
Let's do this!

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:11 am
by Almost50
Correction: At least FIVE in brass.

The count thus becomes 23-14 with 8 delegates remaining

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:11 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3628, pidgey wrote:
In post 3572, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3563, pidgey wrote:
In post 3494, Shaziro wrote:I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.
Good first shot. BAD SECOND SHOT. WHY NOT KILL GAMMA!!!!!!!!!!! Why
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You are aware of what Shaz' claim means right?
>quotes my post
>doesn't respond
FoS pidgey

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:13 am
by brassherald
In post 3632, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3628, pidgey wrote:
In post 3572, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3563, pidgey wrote:
In post 3494, Shaziro wrote:I'm Japan, hence my first post in this game starting with a haiku, and I have Bushido. I'm a vig. I shot Dunker, and I shot Kokichi.
Good first shot. BAD SECOND SHOT. WHY NOT KILL GAMMA!!!!!!!!!!! Why
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You are aware of what Shaz' claim means right?
>quotes my post
>doesn't respond
FoS pidgey
I don't know what you are referencing by what Shaz's claim means, but I also don't understand why Pidgey should respond

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:13 am
by Gamma Emerald
Pidgey is pushing me even though Shaz' claim most likely clears me of the primary reason for suspicion

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:25 am
by Chara
HEAL: brass x3

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:00 am
by pidgey
Im fucking quoting myself and your question because no i dont understand

O no please dont fos please

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:01 am
by pidgey
If you would kindly explain how it clears you then i will agree or not agree, but i dont get it at the moment

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:03 am
by Jodaxq
It doesn't clear Gamma at all. It just means he's not soft guiltied by it

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:23 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3638, Jodaxq wrote:It doesn't clear Gamma at all. It just means he's not soft guiltied by it
This is pretty much it
I'm not cleared of all suspicion, just that point

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:05 am
by Shaziro
HEAL: Brass x3

The main reason for suspicious was the "soft guilty" on Gamma because Elbirn said something about Gamma and then died, and was a weak bodyguard. I think that soft guilty was blown -way- the fuck out of proportion, and it looks a lot more like Elbirn died to scum NK when you realize that I'm the one who killed Dunker. The only other suspicion on Gamma being scum is that the commuter claim might be weird for setup balance, which I disagree with. I'm 90% on gamma town.

VOTE: Caesar

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:43 pm
by Titus
Ok, how many more excuses before we just lynch Gamma? I'm getting bored at this point. Pretty sure scum are just shopping who they can to save him.

HEAL: Brass with all my delegates

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:44 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Titus why do you think I'm scum -_-

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:45 pm
by Titus
I'll do the VCA on Monday if I am still here and this is ongoing.

@Gamma, Elbrin was weak. He visited you is my understanding. You softed protective which has insanely high likelihood of being a lie.

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:31 pm
by Jodaxq
In post 3643, Titus wrote:I'll do the VCA on Monday if I am still here and this is ongoing.

@Gamma, Elbrin was weak. He visited you is my understanding. You softed protective which has insanely high likelihood of being a lie.
Well we know who's not reading the game. Like come on, this was discussed on this very page

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:32 pm
by Titus
In post 3644, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 3643, Titus wrote:I'll do the VCA on Monday if I am still here and this is ongoing.

@Gamma, Elbrin was weak. He visited you is my understanding. You softed protective which has insanely high likelihood of being a lie.
Well we know who's not reading the game. Like come on, this was discussed on this very page
Yes nightkill blah blah blah. Not buying that a vig claim even if true vitates Occam's Razor. It's just helpful to scum.

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:35 pm
by Joey_
Resolutions
Spoiler:
DAY 1

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Ban Luxury
~ Silk]
PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.
Effect(s) Unknown.


[
Congressional Peace-keeping
~ brassherald]
PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to
brassherald
's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.
brassherald receives Protection Night 1.


DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold
[/i]
PASSES

ivilizations around the world will monitor its effects going forward, but already it appears that the very wealthy and very religious are being hit hard by the move away from the gold standard. Effect(s) Unknown.

Temporary Ban of Ivory
 
PASSES

The World Congress is applauded for its conservation efforts, and animal rights activists begin contacting member Civilizations about expanding other initiatives around the world. No gameplay effect(s)


Spoiler: Day 2 Options
DAY 2

1.
[Temporary Ban Gold]
[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.
2.
[Temporary Ban Ivory]
(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)
3.
[Temporary Ban Furs]
(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.
[Embargo Nation]
(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.
5.
[Embargo City States]
(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.
Protection of Natural Wonders
(permanent, can be repealed)
 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?
7.
Recognition of World Wonders
(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.
Funding Arts
(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.
9.
Funding Science
(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.
Gamestate 2.1
Alive
14/21
Spoiler:
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Dead
7/21
Spoiler:
ElbirnKokichi OmaActionDanNeroCain
Weak Permanent BG
Neihborizer
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Spoiler: My reads
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ShaziroPidgeyJodaxq
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Changes : Added joda and pidgey tr

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:39 pm
by Joey_
@Titus shaz can hardly claim vig as Group scum so the only reasonable alignement her is town vig or sk.. and an SK has no incentive to claim a kill that negates the soft guilty on gamma. In every scenario shaz can only lie here if hes mafia with gamma and thats just like not happening ever

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:48 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3643, Titus wrote:I'll do the VCA on Monday if I am still here and this is ongoing.

@Gamma, Elbrin was weak. He visited you is my understanding. You softed protective which has insanely high likelihood of being a lie.
Wait a second

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:52 pm
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: TITUS
ALRIGHT YOU LYING LITTLE SHIT, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU PUSHED THE LIE OF ME SOFTING PROTECTIVE, EITHER POINT IT OUT OR I WILL SWING THIS WAGON AROUND ONTO YOU
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