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Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:03 pm

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In post 3619, Fahrenheit wrote:
In post 3562, Disaster Artists wrote:We could also lynch Fahrenheit since Eddie is like almost certainly mafia given 4 different heads have just up and decided not to play the game from that slot
In post 3564, Disaster Artists wrote:Who all wants to flashlynch EDDIE CANE?

Come on doesn't that sound fuuuuun :3

VOTE: Fahrenheit
Apparently, nobody. :)
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It's almost like none of the scum wanted to vote you, hmmmm
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Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:04 pm

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In post 3620, Fahrenheit wrote:
In post 3571, Disaster Artists wrote:
In post 3567, Mikoto and Kuroko wrote:And how is that more likely to be scum again and not just apathetic town?
why would town be apathetic in a game this readable?
Because this game is not super readable, but is super boring? :cool:
this game is super readable, not boring, and if you were town you would be all up in this bitch
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Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:13 pm

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I've got one last surprise for you.

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Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:47 pm

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In post 3625, Disaster Artists wrote:It's almost like none of the scum wanted to vote you, hmmmm
Well, there's one person voting me, and that person is claiming to be 3p, so none of the town want to vote me either.
In post 3626, Disaster Artists wrote:this game is super readable, not boring, and if you were town you would be all up in this bitch
This is objectively untrue.
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Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:08 pm

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I claimed half town,half third party, thank you very much

also if you don't think this game is readable then I guess you only try when I'm scum then :P
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Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:24 pm

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Lol the game's not readable (especially replacing in) because of mechanical complexity and hydras, I don't know what DA is on about. It's like trying to read a whole other language.

After reading I didn't expect to see that right now wagons are mostly between Androids and Searchers with not many on Blake&Yang or M&K, even after that little fight.

In reading through Searchers, I'm surprised they have a bit more traction over someone like egospray or whichever head of that is still around. They seem very upfront with reads, engage well and make what seem like sensible proposals for actions. Not someone I'd be lynching right now. There's also that M&K is pushing there, who I've soured on a bit since I was last awake enough to post.
I have nothing on Androids - I would be taking a total stab in the dark if I were to try and have a read on them.

There's also a bunch of people not voting. There's not many people on each wagon, and Despair Night explicitly unvoted. If there were scum with partners at risk in the non voters, I'd assume more interest in pushing one wagon over another, but I don't really see it.


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Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:37 pm

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VOTE: Mikoto and Kuroko

I don't think either wagon feels like its on scum, though I agree with Key I would prefer to kill EA over Search lightly. I don't super hard town read either, so its ~fine~ if they're default lynched, but there is probably 4 or more mafia, and they could easily save their partner unless you think we have two scum wagoned and they aren't trying to do something else. I feel okay about this. If I'm understanding they're claiming to have stopped the town lightning rod and also put kp on someone too, lul.
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Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:37 pm

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We're actually going to get our lynch with 4 votes in a game with 15 players alive. Incredible.

I also don't care what Foxy actually winds up flipping, the people who have refused to vote that-even close to deadline-and the people who have townread that slot are indefensible. They're not all scum, but some of them probably are (Looking at Blake), but god I wish they all were.
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Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:40 pm

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In post 3631, Fahrenheit wrote:VOTE: Mikoto and Kuroko

I don't think either wagon feels like its on scum, though I agree with Key I would prefer to kill EA over Search lightly. I don't super hard town read either, so its ~fine~ if they're default lynched, but there is probably 4 or more mafia, and they could easily save their partner unless you think we have two scum wagoned and they aren't trying to do something else. I feel okay about this. If I'm understanding they're claiming to have stopped the town lightning rod and also put kp on someone too, lul.
This wagon died already. They hardclaimed to have a full vig with unlimited single head shots. I'm pretty sure both of these happened after your replace-in.

If you AND Key both prefer EA over Search, why would you vote M&K here? The indifference after the fact makes 0 sense.
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Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:54 am

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Neither of us were big fans of the claim, and claims shouldn't always excuse an otherwise dodgy slot.
Black Hole Defection wrote: If you AND Key both prefer EA over Search, why would you vote M&K here? The indifference after the fact makes 0 sense.
Because I think both of our reads that neither wagon is on scum because of how the game is playing out right now is stronger than our reads on the actual slots - so it's more important that we try and move elsewhere, somewhere there's more likely scum.


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Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:39 am

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In post 3634, Fahrenheit wrote:Neither of us were big fans of the claim, and claims shouldn't always excuse an otherwise dodgy slot.
Black Hole Defection wrote: If you AND Key both prefer EA over Search, why would you vote M&K here? The indifference after the fact makes 0 sense.
Because I think both of our reads that neither wagon is on scum because of how the game is playing out right now is stronger than our reads on the actual slots - so it's more important that we try and move elsewhere, somewhere there's more likely scum.


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Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:59 am

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Can the people not voting please explain why they are not voting? Can the people voting vanity wagons please explain why they are voting a vanity wagon?

Blake, why are you voting us?

Farenheit, you think Searchers has been up front about reads when they revealed their secret scumread on us just as we became a viable wagon?
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Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:00 am

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Black Hole, why are you voting us?
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Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:02 am

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Hum hum.

I'm just waiting, honestly.

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Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:03 am

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Waiting for what?
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Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:07 am

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This totally isn't an apathy lynch on town with 4 CLUCKING votes.
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Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:09 am

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UNVOTE:

I'll just leave this on nothing. I genuinely don't care who the lynch is.

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Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:16 am

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In post 0, Superb Subtlety wrote:Blake x Yang (Alyssa the Lamb and Taly) - probably town based on that claim
Disaster Artists (John Cena and DeathRowKitty) - null, looked scummy to me from parts of Day 1. Don't like their vanity vote on Farenheit.
Egospray (bugspray and GeorgeBailey) - probably town based on Day 1, plus their claim makes me think they are town. If they are scum, they have a super powerful role of some sort.
Black Hole Defection (popsofctown and Prism) - likely town based on Day 1
Imperium (Nachomamma8 and Tammy) - probably town based on Day 1
Mikoto and Kuroko (Bitmap and Farkran) - likely town. This is my strongest read
Fahrenheit (Eddie Cane and Keychain) - null, literally no read there
The Searchers (SirCakez and Ircher) - scum, very opportunistic play today
Flavortown (Dr Easy Bake and Flavor Leaf) - I want this to be town, but I'm not sure. I think it is town based on day 1 and day 2 play plus their claim.
Despair Night (JunkoChan and insomnia) - null, Titus thought townie enough to target last night, I could see being scum because it feels different than TvA from what I have read
Feminist Blocc (Datisi and Ausuka) - null for me, Titus thought some posts were townie on Day 1
Latias and Latios (Chemist1422 and Gamma Emerald) - potentially scum, but I do not have a penchant for reading Chemist or GE
Unapologetically Foxy (Pine and xofelf) - probably town, this looks like pine from TvA and xofelf from MMII
Cappy (Hectic and Pink Ball) - probably town
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Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:26 am

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VOTE: EA.

For battlefront!
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Post Post #3644 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:27 am

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In post 3641, Blake X Yang wrote:UNVOTE:

I'll just leave this on nothing. I genuinely don't care who the lynch is.

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Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:30 am

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I've increasingly realized that the way the game was designed simply doesn't work. The one player keeping me grounded in the game is guaranteed to be around for only one more day now that my hydra partner is not especially interested in continuing to play anymore. I strongly suspect that the health of the game can only improve once the events end, but there are enough players that are here only for events that going to day four is unlikely to improve anything. Therefore, it's more optimal to use vig shots to remove the players here for events, but that lags the game and makes it look a lot less fun to play, which just achieves the same outcome.

And of course, now we're in a position where the game only picked up at all once the game started becoming toxic. We're on the verge of an apathy lynch because nobody actually cares outside of a few slots, after I had specifically called out the game for becoming more lethargic and gotten pushback for it. I claimed a shot on a player who consistently adds to the off topic banter and commonly doesn't play, and I've gotten a lot of shit for it because I happened to also townread the slot.

Essentially, I put a lot of what remains of my ability to effort in games into this one on day one, and I feel like it was a complete waste of time. This isn't a mafia game, this is a shitshow. And I don't see it improving.

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Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:33 am

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Is this game toxic?

I mean pink ball got into fisticuffs with me but day 2 has been pretty clean I thought

Also blake is probably as ic as imperium now
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Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:34 am

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In post 3646, Disaster Artists wrote:Is this game toxic?

I mean pink ball got into fisticuffs with me but day 2 has been pretty clean I thought

Also blake is probably as ic as imperium now
Toxic might be a strong word, but the fight between Farkran and myself did drastically shift the game towards itself.

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Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:36 am

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Gg just says she does not like my attempt to flashwagon eddie cane from 2 pages ago and that is the most important thing for her read of me, she can't find town in gamma day 1, and she 'wants' boon to be town for the scummiest fakeclaim in the game.

I like the ego,imperium, and blake reads. But the rest of that list was 'wow'
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Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:40 am

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In post 3648, Disaster Artists wrote:Gg just says she does not like my attempt to flashwagon eddie cane from 2 pages ago and that is the most important thing for her read of me, she can't find town in gamma day 1, and she 'wants' boon to be town for the scummiest fakeclaim in the game.

I like the ego,imperium, and blake reads. But the rest of that list was 'wow'
Uh what? That's not true. I thought you were scummy with your weird interaction with Flavor and Pops on Day 1. I even commented as such when it was happening in real time. That is why I said you looked scummy on Day 1 and then I didn't like your vanity vote on Farenheit. You voting me AFTER Blake unvoted me is also super suspect, especially if Searcher is scum.

I would be willing to bet that you are scum with Searchers based off that vote.
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