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u chose the wrong person with the wrong meta to fake guilty.


id also like to point out my reaction to vp being alive throughout this game on top of the guilty against them.

In post 3624, DkKoba wrote:b) vp is conf scum(to me)

Not voting me.

Your scum is slipping

In post 3622, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 3618, Andresvmb wrote:And seriously, why should I ignore my gut just because you conveniently come out with a guilty in ELo?

Stop being egotistical. Your gut is not better than my proven PT cop ability, nor are you more town than me just because you weren't on the testa wagon.

I have a confirmed guilty. I'd have to be a mind reader as scum to get to this position faking it. Koba is the elimination.

Your ability is proven, I agree. There’s no doubt in my mind that the actual ability to check for PTs is present in the game. But I’m not being egotistical. I don’t trust you. It’s just plain and simple. You tried to participate on a wagon on me that was clearly Scum motivated. And it’s plain for everyone to see, since the identical wagon then formed on Testa who was Town and as a counter wagon to a slot that I’m almost certain is Scum.

VOTE: VP Baltar

i was afraid u were just tunneling me as town? lmao i forgot i didn't vote you now u happy?

hellbooks lmk whenever ur on wthin the next 2-3 hours i wanna just chat abt the game bc i dont think we were able to and i owe you explanations for things.

In post 3624, DkKoba wrote:I think with the revelation that :

a) testa was town

b) vp is conf scum(to me)


andres

aldu
npom


i am going to have questiosn for everyone later to answer that i think that should have been asked way before instead of me just trying to weakly argue without getting proof of anything.

I’ll admit, you brought this entirely upon yourself by not engaging with my points better yesterday. I made a long list of points and clearly put most of my thoughts out there, but you also decided to side with Scum against me, and then Testa.

Deciding this 50/50 sucks. It’s never going to go in favor of Koba today. Because it is impossible to convince all of the Town that voting against VPB today is the play. It’s not happening. VPB might be Scum, and I said as much, but the ability is proven, so ignoring the check is just so difficult to do. Even if we all sort of know that Aldus is incredibly likely to be Scum for example. Like why the resistance to executing there? Don’t we have to as some point? If VPB is Town, does anyone really think the Scum are stupid enough to let him keep on going to clear more players in future days? C’mon now.

In post 3628, DkKoba wrote:i was afraid u were just tunneling me as town? lmao i forgot i didn't vote you now u happy?

You said you were going to vote me within 24 hours, but I'm confirmed scum.

Also, you were worried I'm tunneling town even though I have a guilty on you.

This is all soft peddle nonsense that doesn't make a lick of sense.

In post 3630, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 3624, DkKoba wrote:I think with the revelation that :

a) testa was town

b) vp is conf scum(to me)


andres

aldu
npom


i am going to have questiosn for everyone later to answer that i think that should have been asked way before instead of me just trying to weakly argue without getting proof of anything.

I’ll admit, you brought this entirely upon yourself by not engaging with my points better yesterday. I made a long list of points and clearly put most of my thoughts out there, but you also decided to side with Scum against me, and then Testa.

Deciding this 50/50 sucks. It’s never going to go in favor of Koba today. Because it is impossible to convince all of the Town that voting against VPB today is the play. It’s not happening. VPB might be Scum, and I said as much, but the ability is proven, so ignoring the check is just so difficult to do. Even if we all sort of know that Aldus is incredibly likely to be Scum for example. Like why the resistance to executing there? Don’t we have to as some point? If VPB is Town, does anyone really think the Scum are stupid enough to let him keep on going to clear more players in future days? C’mon now.

ur right and if ur town and end up voting me today i definitely deserved it.

but pr not dying is always scummier?? esp an investigative where we pretty much confirmed have no protective PRs. can you requote those points because today I am very much more willing to engage wth them

In post 3631, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 3628, DkKoba wrote:i was afraid u were just tunneling me as town? lmao i forgot i didn't vote you now u happy?

You said you were going to vote me within 24 hours, but I'm confirmed scum.

Also, you were worried I'm tunneling town even though I have a guilty on you.

This is all soft peddle nonsense that doesn't make a lick of sense.

its ok even if we wanna discard that you're still left with plenty of arguments why this situation never makes sense with scum!koba <3

In post 3633, DkKoba wrote:

In post 3631, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 3628, DkKoba wrote:i was afraid u were just tunneling me as town? lmao i forgot i didn't vote you now u happy?

You said you were going to vote me within 24 hours, but I'm confirmed scum.

Also, you were worried I'm tunneling town even though I have a guilty on you.

This is all soft peddle nonsense that doesn't make a lick of sense.

its ok even if we wanna discard that you're still left with plenty of arguments why this situation never makes sense with scum!koba <3

You self metaing as to why this situation makes no sense is ... not a good point at all.

I won’t be voting first here. No chance in hell. If we really are going to decide between the 50/50, both NPOM and Alduskkel vote first. I will want to see what Hellbooks and Ico want to do.

Typical Andres. No action behind his words.

I don't think it's necessary or good for town to vote yet.

so you think aldus is the other town NPOM?

In post 3636, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Typical Andres. No action behind his words.

You know how I know you’re Scum? Because if you were Town, you would never say these things. You would actually go back and re-read, and try to engage with my slot since your prediction about me defending my Partner was AGAIN hilariously wrong.

I have to go to work now, but I'll check back this afternoon.

The choice here is clear. You either vote me or Koba. There's no way we are both town.

We both have a vote on us and there hasn't been an auto hammer. That means one of us is absolutely scum.

I have a confirmed guilty on them with a proven PT ability, and they have self-meta WIFOM. We are going 1v1 today, end of story.

i feel really bad walking back my townread of andres because of ego. to be fair i wasn't pushing for them that day.

its not a self meta wifom, i can literally show you my statistics where I play setups many times that adhere to a meta where you have to kill investigatives else you get put in autoloss/near autoloss.

hi koba i'm kind of here but i'm at work

hello.

i know i played very poorly, but what are ur thoughts.

(also please read my iso up to now for today, I have important points).

In post 3638, DkKoba wrote:so you think aldus is the other town NPOM?

Not exactly sure. Aldus or icon.

tomorrow evening i will drop a case(hopefully) on why its inconsistent with my actions why i would be scum with a PTcop!baltar.

i just dont have the emotional spoons rn to dig through many pages of content and i work in 2 hours but i will answer questions to the best of my memory.

ico is probtown based on reasons i have deduced that i will keep to myself.

VOTE: Alduskkel

Hellbooks is a Mason, and VPB/DkKoba contains at most 1 Scum. That leaves 2 Scum from my POV between Ico/Aldus/NPOM. If everyone’s assessment of Ico is wrong, we lose anyway. If you still include Ico in the group as a possibility, then your choice is at worst a 50/50 anyway, since Hellbooks is Confirmed. This is always correct from my POV. It’s a 66.7% chance of hitting if I vote randomly amongst the group, versus a straight 50/50 between DkKoba/VPB, and I’m obviously not voting randomly since I have a high degree of certainty that Ico is Town.

This is mathematically the correct play. There’s so much WIFOM around VPB mechanically that I can’t see why we want to make that decision now. And we don’t have to.