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if you think your'e locktown wouldn't it be more helpful to, like, everyone if you're present and sharing your thoughts?

and i think that arguing that you can disappear if you're locktown is kinda silly to help you maintain that status if that's a characteristic of your scumgame

(also sorry if it was cuz rl. that's not super how i remember it but i'll drop it if that's what you say it was)

In post 3650, skitter30 wrote:if you think your'e locktown wouldn't it be more helpful to, like, everyone if you're present and sharing your thoughts?

only if my thoughts aren't garbage

kinda similar to the bodyguard dilemma, i actually don't strongly disagree with the mindset of locktown players keeping their townreads obfuscated / only interfering if they don't like the direction a phase is going in

pedit: also they probably should not post garbage
which is a lesson i haven't learned yet

In post 3650, skitter30 wrote:and i think that arguing that you can disappear if you're locktown is kinda silly to help you maintain that status if that's a characteristic of your scumgame

it's also a characteristic of my towngame though

in smuggler's port I got confirmed as town and promptly prodged for, like, five days afterward.

ok imma drop this since i'm not, actually, interested in voting out ss today
more wanted to indicate that i don't think he's as locktown as he's saying he is, and that i don't super think disappearing is helpful really

In post 3643, skitter30 wrote:his scum iso's tend to be flat, devoid of scumhunting, and his posts are more of the nature 'hi i'm still posting i'm still here' than, like, scumhunting. his reads change on a dime as convenient.

in his towngames, in contrast, tend to have a coherent thought process wherein you can see his reads and they follow through from post to post, and his posting tends to further his thoguth process/narrative

does anyone think the bolded describes dsjstr's game here?

i agree with that but also really think ss' alignment is like a dialogue for tomorrow if we mis-elim today
this also means i don't have to sort ss
yeeeet

In post 3655, skitter30 wrote:

In post 3643, skitter30 wrote:his scum iso's tend to be flat, devoid of scumhunting, and his posts are more of the nature 'hi i'm still posting i'm still here' than, like, scumhunting. his reads change on a dime as convenient.

in his towngames, in contrast, tend to have a coherent thought process wherein you can see his reads and they follow through from post to post, and his posting tends to further his thoguth process/narrative

does anyone think the bolded describes dsjstr's game here?

i thought i saw pings of a coherent ~against-the-flow~ thought process on d1 but holistically, no not really

like, for example, look at his progression on looker here:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82026

In post 3637, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 3631, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i re-read your ISO today and it felt very fluffy

What is your definition of fluff then? Because mine is "posts that aren't related to the game."

promises to read the game/catchup are fluffy to me - like I sympathize with being like 70 pages behind when you replace in but you always have the option to engage into the game without prior information and catch up later or reread 5-10 pages at a time and post your thoughts as you re-read in.

also you have a fairly observational style that feels less interested in solving the game. I don't know if this is just your style but it feels like you have a very good grasp of who is who in this game but you don't use this knowledge to push for an outcome you want.

In post 3646, skitter30 wrote:also happy cakeday pooky

thx

In post 3643, skitter30 wrote:- i mgiht argue that he's exhibiting a fatalistic mindset by repping out in his scumgames (i.e. he doesn't htink he, in that slot, can further the scumwincon, so just leaves). and that volunteering to rep-out is him manifesting the same mindset in a slightly different way

I can understand repping out to further the scumwincon because you think a new person coming in would help the scum-team more - however getting lynched does not help the scum win con.

There is one game where he does self-vote himself out as scum to deny the town information so it's not impossible that he would pull this fatalistic move here.

In post 3630, skitter30 wrote:should i just take the plunge and vote dsjstr????

dats i really don't want you to autovote pooky tom in that case :/

skitterrrrrrrrrrr :((((((

s_s/raven is on your mind?

if this is my legacy then it shall be a glorious legacy:

oh no my heart doesn't let me go against both ducky and skitter

correct <3

In post 2632, the worst wrote:Skitter is flitting between misrepresentation and absurd mechspec and like she is clearly throwing things at the wall and hoping they stick and I have no idea why she hasn't already been eliminated

how far we've come

btw at some point i realized that (1) the nightkills are probably going to be duck > skitter and (2) executions are probably gonna be dsjstr > pooky and like if the game doesn't end it's gonna be final 3 of s_s/raven/dats and there is not a word in the english language that can describe how much i don't want to play in that final 3

In post 3667, Datisi wrote:btw at some point i realized that (1) the nightkills are probably going to be duck > skitter and (2) executions are probably gonna be dsjstr > pooky and like if the game doesn't end it's gonna be final 3 of s_s/raven/dats and there is not a word in the english language that can describe how much i don't want to play in that final 3

i was highkey dreading the fact this would be the final 3 and i literally have no idea what i would do in it gl;hf

but also

SUCKERSSSSSSS

In post 3655, skitter30 wrote:

In post 3643, skitter30 wrote:his scum iso's tend to be flat, devoid of scumhunting, and his posts are more of the nature 'hi i'm still posting i'm still here' than, like, scumhunting. his reads change on a dime as convenient.

in his towngames, in contrast, tend to have a coherent thought process wherein you can see his reads and they follow through from post to post, and his posting tends to further his thoguth process/narrative

does anyone think the bolded describes dsjstr's game here?

I ISO’d him in the towngame you mentioned as well as two of his scumgames, so I think you’re right. I already explained how his Dats’s progression makes little sense.

In post 3658, skitter30 wrote:like, for example, look at his progression on looker here:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82026

He makes a lot of sense in that one and his posts don’t hurt my eyes in that game.

In post 3639, Something_Smart wrote:I townread Datisi independently of the belief that dsjstr/Datisi isn't ruled out by dsjstr voting Datisi.

However if dsjstr is town then the gamestate is much more likely to be significantly screwed because everyone except him has a decent reason to be town, so that makes Datisi-scum more plausible.

But what I still don’t understand is how your read on me is affected by that, specifically why you think there’s any associatives between him and me?

In post 3661, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I can understand repping out to further the scumwincon because you think a new person coming in would help the scum-team more - however getting lynched does not help the scum win con.

There is one game where he does self-vote himself out as scum to deny the town information so it's not impossible that he would pull this fatalistic move here.

yeah i think the fatalism is more an aspect of his playstyle than his alignment, you also linked a game where he self-voted as town in lylo

what do u think about my other points (namely, the fact that he doesn't seem to have a consistent underlying throught process motivating his posts, or the fact that you're focusing on what i believe to be a largely meaningless distinction between his town and scumgames)