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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:38 pm
by Gloria Cleary
What the actual fuck is even #324 anyhow? Am I actually hallucinating now?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:39 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3650, Gloria Cleary wrote:What the actual fuck is even #324 anyhow? Am I actually hallucinating now?
I mean #3646 obviously.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:39 pm
by Infinity 324
I just don’t get how you have so much respect for my reads as long and I’m TRing you but it immediately disappears the minute I start suspecting you. It’s pretty transparently scum-motivated to try to pocket someone as long as they are TRing you but discredit/push them when they aren’t. Especially when you may not be able to NK me.

PEdit: it’s a joke lol

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:39 pm
by Isis
In post 3638, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:isis can you just tell me a story where we are both town? who are the bad guys? what happened yesterday?
I don't know the scumteam for sure, but as an example, it could be Infinity/Flea. Infinity had good standing all game and could have insisted on having a good voting record. When I started pushing Hopkirk they jumped on to carry an organic town on town wagon forward and expected it to collect enough extra townies for it to be easy. Infinity hopped onto the Hopkirk wagon and hopped off again at "key moment" to act like he was organically changing stances but actually his original vote was just "lolidk sheeping Isis". When it didn't seem like Ydrasse was going to vote Hopkirk Flea lolhammered Hopkirk. They'd planned to send two offwagon players to this phase I bet (maybe an offwagon Tweet at some point?) but for sending an onwagon player Flea was the best pick because fae is so flighty characteristically and Tweet and Dunnstral made uncharacteristically flighty flips, and skitter should just know better really. Skitter probably should have been sent to this phase no matter who the scumteam is actually and she probably asked not to go cause she dislikes scum, but when she plays scum she tends to win anyways.

The Infinity/Flea scumteam doesn't really care that much whether Flea dies, I don't think, and has been playing this phase in a way that focuses on Infinity endgaming, with Flea being kind of lolcatty earlier in the phase. It would be consistent with Infinity being noncommital about stuff like dances and committing to a scumread on me about when it was pretty safe. But then like halfway through this phase Infinity realized oh I am gonna get the miselim on the main Flea detractor and could just sweep and started going for townreading his partner.

Something like that would be an example story if you're town, that's currently my favorite team

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:41 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
why didnt you believe me about dunny :(

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:44 pm
by Flea The Magician
Name your 4 for dances people, no self-voting.

I'm going to assume Ydrasse isn't going to appear or contribute to this.

Also Gloria don't pull a DC again.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:44 pm
by Isis
Dunnstral started reminding me of Forest Fire in a way that made me feel survivor's guilt about that game. I think I didn't read him in a way that was properly free of bias this game.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:45 pm
by Isis
In post 3655, Flea The Magician wrote:Name your 4 for dances people, no self-voting.

I'm going to assume Ydrasse isn't going to appear or contribute to this.

Also Gloria don't pull a DC again.
Ayla, Crono, Lucca, Frog

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:48 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3652, Infinity 324 wrote:I just don’t get how you have so much respect for my reads as long and I’m TRing you but it immediately disappears the minute I start suspecting you. It’s pretty transparently scum-motivated to try to pocket someone as long as they are TRing you but discredit/push them when they aren’t. Especially when you may not be able to NK me.

PEdit: it’s a joke lol
I don’t respect players who read my very obvious attempts to solve and decide hey, who cares how much sense she’s making, who gives a fuck if her posting makes no goddamned sense ever coming from scum? Who cares if she’s earnestly trying to solve and is as genuine as fuck? No, I in my infinite wisdom will completely disregard all of that and auto jump to the beyond brilliant conclusion that Gloria is scum obviously pocketing me?

No, in no world do I respect that kind of illogical thought process.

You’re dead wrong if you think this is ever how I play scum but I’m sure nothing I say will buy you a clue but that doesn’t make it any less frustrating that you’re probably going to lose us a game that we’re very close to winning and yeah I am hella pissed at you for that.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:52 pm
by Ydrasse
beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice

i'm dead tired

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:52 pm
by Ydrasse
gloria, do you feel as a player you're capable of replicating the like, very strong reactions you have to being scumread as scum?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:54 pm
by Infinity 324
I just don’t get why you immediately started respecting me when I stopped pushing you. You strongly weighed my pooky and isis reads, and it was like I had never suspected you to begin with. If you were being honest about losing a significant amount of respect for me as a player because of my paranoia on you, I think it would’ve taken a while for me to gain back that respect. If you’re town here I’m gonna be pretty upset because I’ve pretty clearly been weighing your solving attempts, but getting this amount of vitriol whenever I voice the slightest suspicion of you doesn’t help that process much.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:54 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3653, Isis wrote:
In post 3638, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:isis can you just tell me a story where we are both town? who are the bad guys? what happened yesterday?
I don't know the scumteam for sure, but as an example, it could be Infinity/Flea. Infinity had good standing all game and could have insisted on having a good voting record. When I started pushing Hopkirk they jumped on to carry an organic town on town wagon forward and expected it to collect enough extra townies for it to be easy. Infinity hopped onto the Hopkirk wagon and hopped off again at "key moment" to act like he was organically changing stances but actually his original vote was just "lolidk sheeping Isis". When it didn't seem like Ydrasse was going to vote Hopkirk Flea lolhammered Hopkirk. They'd planned to send two offwagon players to this phase I bet (maybe an offwagon Tweet at some point?) but for sending an onwagon player Flea was the best pick because fae is so flighty characteristically and Tweet and Dunnstral made uncharacteristically flighty flips, and skitter should just know better really. Skitter probably should have been sent to this phase no matter who the scumteam is actually and she probably asked not to go cause she dislikes scum, but when she plays scum she tends to win anyways.

The Infinity/Flea scumteam doesn't really care that much whether Flea dies, I don't think, and has been playing this phase in a way that focuses on Infinity endgaming, with Flea being kind of lolcatty earlier in the phase. It would be consistent with Infinity being noncommital about stuff like dances and committing to a scumread on me about when it was pretty safe. But then like halfway through this phase Infinity realized oh I am gonna get the miselim on the main Flea detractor and could just sweep and started going for townreading his partner.

Something like that would be an example story if you're town, that's currently my favorite team
God, now I’m starting to doubt everything. Am I wrong on you @Isis? I’m truly sorry if that’s the case. :/
I’m no longer sure if I’m right on you anymore. :/

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 pm
by Infinity 324
^ how is this re-evaluation genuine?

@jessie I’m getting serious flashbacks to student council

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:57 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3660, Ydrasse wrote:gloria, do you feel as a player you're capable of replicating the like, very strong reactions you have to being scumread as scum?
No, I’m beyond out of my scumrange here. I can have strong reactions but the difference is that the basis for them doesn’t make sense. There is no way anyone reading my posting today who is decent at scumhunting jumps to the conclusion Gloria must scum be pocketing me from that.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:59 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3663, Infinity 324 wrote:^ how is this re-evaluation genuine?

@jessie I’m getting serious flashbacks to student council
why would she not re-evaluate as town?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:00 pm
by Ydrasse
Gloria, will you dance with me?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:01 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3663, Infinity 324 wrote:^ how is this re-evaluation genuine?

@jessie I’m getting serious flashbacks to student council
Because if you’re town and good at scumhunting you shouldn’t be disregarding my posting and coming to the conclusion that I’m pocketing you here, so yes. Congratulations whatever you are, I’m now back to being paranoid of you, which will be 100% on you if your town here doing this.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:02 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 3665, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3663, Infinity 324 wrote:^ how is this re-evaluation genuine?

@jessie I’m getting serious flashbacks to student council
why would she not re-evaluate as town?
It’s the timing of it that’s scummy as hell. Like, her isis SR probably existed to pocket me, and once that didn’t work, she drops it. It’s not a particularly towny post from isis, so it doesn’t make much sense as town, and emotionally me starting to SR her shouldn’t really make her question her other reads at this particular time.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:02 pm
by Ydrasse
you don't have to accept that but i thought i'd offer, you're my strongest tr and if you're playing outside of your scumrange than kudos but this feels like every town game i've played with you so far so ye

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:04 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3666, Ydrasse wrote:
Gloria, will you dance with me?
I definitely think you should be paired here but I feel more confident in Pooky. He is now my most confident townread but I fully support you pairing with Jessie.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:05 pm
by Ydrasse
hmmmm

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:06 pm
by Isis
I think you've gotten me wrong, Gloria, but I think you're making an honest mistake so no hard feelings about it.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:08 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3665, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3663, Infinity 324 wrote:^ how is this re-evaluation genuine?

@jessie I’m getting serious flashbacks to student council
why would she not re-evaluate as town?
Pooky, I think you, Ydrasse and Jessie are all town and maybe even Isis but less certain on that I’d bet the game on you town here.

Pooky, will you dance with me?


No hurry. But that is my preference.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:09 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3672, Isis wrote:I think you've gotten me wrong, Gloria, but I think you're making an honest mistake so no hard feelings about it.
What do you think I’ve gotten wrong?