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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:17 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 3599, VFP wrote: In post 3598, Dwlee99 wrote:I believe scum don't have multi-tasking by default in normals, and I don't see anything in the op saying they do (which I think is required if they do).
That's what I thought but I was told in a game that it's standard now days.
I thought it was only standard in newbies but that was like 5 years ago. Pretty sure normal guidelines are that scum is only multitasking with the modifier, but maybe, like with Daytalk, it is off by default unless the mod turns it on and broadcasts in the rules that it is on.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:45 am
by Andresvmb
Oh whatever I misread PT Cop for Gunsmith. Sue me. That’s not a slip I mean hahaha I might be unfocused but I’m not an idiot.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:50 am
by VFP
@Gypyx - V/LA over the weekend.
Huge game this weekend so I'm going to avoid MS all weekend and just enjoy it coming home!
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:57 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3651, Andresvmb wrote:Oh whatever I misread PT Cop for Gunsmith. Sue me. That’s not a slip I mean hahaha I might be unfocused but I’m not an idiot.
I don't believe that's a slip (partly because that would kinda implicate me) but I do think the fact you made that mistake is a pretty bad sign for you given you iirc had managed to figure out RLotus was a PR in mini 2213, so to make that sort of mistake seems so off-color for town!you
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:05 am
by Andresvmb
In post 3653, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 3651, Andresvmb wrote:Oh whatever I misread PT Cop for Gunsmith. Sue me. That’s not a slip I mean hahaha I might be unfocused but I’m not an idiot.
I don't believe that's a slip (partly because that would kinda implicate me) but I do think the fact you made that mistake is a pretty bad sign for you given you iirc had managed to figure out RLotus was a PR in mini 2213, so to make that sort of mistake seems so off-color for town!you
I also think you know exactly where the mistake is coming from. Since it’s literally your flipped role in a different game. Like I said, I might be unfocused, but I’m not an idiot.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:07 am
by Gamma Emerald
why does that have anything to do with THIS game?
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:07 am
by Dwlee99
I think it looks bad for you given that you act like you're going to have to reread the thread but it doesn't seem like you've read the thread.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:28 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3607, Dwlee99 wrote:If we no elim D5 also it would go (assuming 2 scum)
D4: 8 2
D5: 7 2
D6 : 6 2
If we eliminate gamma D6 then D7 is 4 2 with clears or 5 1. Or scum have to kill Gamma before this plan executes.
I'd prefer to do everything worst case scenario for town. So I'll be doing everything assuming 3 scum remaining (which I'm guessing is most likely to be 2 main and a traitor)
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:32 pm
by Dwlee99
Typically you want to give town at least amount of scum miselims before losing. This game wouldn't fit that with a traitor, right?
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:34 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3611, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay well mech play is no longer to kill Gamma
D4: 8 2
D5: 6 2 (no-elim)
D6: 5 2 (eliminate gamma)
D7: 3 2 or 4 1, both winnable
Or if we hit scum today:
D4: 8 2
D5: 7 1
D6: 5 1 (eliminate gamma)
D7: win or 3 1 with clears.
I wish Dwlee didn't make me so paranoid. If you're going to no elim between D4 and D5, you no elim D4 because there's one less townie to accidentally mislim on D5. And I think he knows that but the default he goes to is to no lim D5, not D4
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:37 pm
by Dwlee99
I'm assuming you die tonight, which doesn't make it better for us to no elim D4 than D5.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:39 pm
by Dwlee99
Also if we elim today we are in a better spot wrt leashing gamma tomorrow, because we can use all the info we have had.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:47 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3611, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay well mech play is no longer to kill Gamma
D4: 8 2
D5: 6 2 (no-elim)
D6: 5 2 (eliminate gamma)
D7: 3 2 or 4 1, both winnable
Or if we hit scum today:
D4: 8 2
D5: 7 1
D6: 5 1 (eliminate gamma)
D7: win or 3 1 with clears.
With added context
D4: 7 - 3 (No lim); N4 - I die
D5: 6 - 3 (no conftown, mislim town); N5 - scum lims a gamma "conftown" or gamma
D6: 4 - 3 (no conftown if Gamma is still alive. If Gamma NKd, one conf non main scum, lim or lose)
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:49 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3660, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm assuming you die tonight, which doesn't make it better for us to no elim D4 than D5.
I just don't think my one vote is more valuable than having one less town option to mislim. My reads have been hot SHITE lol
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:50 pm
by Dwlee99
We aren't no limming today when you can provide thoughts on the lim you won't be able to tomorrow. We don't have one less option to mislim tomorrow from no limming today because you're already not an option.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:53 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3658, Dwlee99 wrote:Typically you want to give town at least amount of scum miselims before losing. This game wouldn't fit that with a traitor, right?
what was the game's starting size?
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:56 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3664, Dwlee99 wrote:We aren't no limming today when you can provide thoughts on the lim you won't be able to tomorrow. We don't have one less option to mislim tomorrow from no limming today because you're already not an option.
Yo I'm fucking dumb thank you. Long week
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:56 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 3665, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 3658, Dwlee99 wrote:Typically you want to give town at least amount of scum miselims before losing. This game wouldn't fit that with a traitor, right?
what was the game's starting size?
17.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:57 pm
by Dwlee99
Now last large had 21 players and 6 scum (two traitors) so I think if there aren't 4 scum it would have to be 3 main scum + 2 traitors, not 4 scum + 1 traitor.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:59 pm
by Gamma Emerald
T3 who do you read as town rn?
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:00 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3665, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 3658, Dwlee99 wrote:Typically you want to give town at least amount of scum miselims before losing. This game wouldn't fit that with a traitor, right?
what was the game's starting size?
17
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:01 pm
by Dragon of the West
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:04 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3668, Dwlee99 wrote:Now last large had 21 players and 6 scum (two traitors) so I think if there aren't 4 scum it would have to be 3 main scum + 2 traitors, not 4 scum + 1 traitor.
Meh, I feel like that's reading too much into the setup. 4 scum, 1 traitor is worse for town so that's what I'm assuming
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:10 pm
by Gamma Emerald
There was a post towards the end of D3 that made me want to look into T3
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
It might have been this one