Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

Moongrass · Post Post #3650 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:11 am

Titus is pushing the same narrative, so they're going all in at mylo on getting one of us limmed today for the lim. Their reads make no sense so I'm ready to end it when you are.

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3651 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:12 am

In post 3641, Moongrass wrote:I actually hate this. Based on the everything I think that Titus has to be scum here, but I'm confused about that leaving a town player townreading scum. If I say the team is actually House/Hydra then that makes more sense because then no town player has a bad read, it's just Tmi.

Considering noone who is confirmed town except Gamma has a townread on Titus, it's surprising that two slots have been defending her the whole game.

So here I am convinced that Titus is scum but then not so sure because of the reads on the slot. If it really is as simple as House/Titus it's easily a win if it's house/hydra then we're doomed.

Seeing as the combinations both involve house I think that's the safest vote today. I would like to gain more certainty on his buddy before anyone votes though.

In post 3482, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3473, House wrote:
In post 3457, Gamma Emerald wrote:But they could say the same about you
Nobody that actually paid attention to the interactions between Moon and I would think we're teamed.

Do your homework.
I mean I think it’s likely you and Titus, they’re just so damn pocketed by Titus that’s the only conclusion they’re left with

Gamma isn’t tr her?

Moongrass · Post Post #3652 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:12 am

I think he was at some point, did it change?

Moongrass · Post Post #3653 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:14 am

Norwegian please give the ok on when/who to vote. I'm ready.

House · Post Post #3654 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:16 am

In post 3652, Moongrass wrote:I think he was at some point, did it change?

Lack of gamesolving.

A quick iso of Gamma shows that he told me earlier today that he thinks it's me and Titus.

Moon isn't trying to do any footwork at all, because they have nothing to figure out.

Moongrass · Post Post #3655 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:20 am

Gamma also said he was paranoid about Hydra/you. It's rich that you accuse me of surface level things because I haven't ISOd gamma when you literally haven't done any solving today, just a bunch of shading whenever the opportunity presents itself.

Of course you'd be more aware of Gamma's standing on you/titus today since you need his vote. The only other place you can get a vote from is the hydra but you burnt that bridge throwing out a bad PoE.

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3656 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:25 am

In post 3633, Titus wrote:By the votes, I want to say Moongrass and Maya.

By the play, I want Moongrass and House.

In post 3634, Titus wrote:I'm still very open to Moongrass town though.

In post 3635, Titus wrote:Right now, I think the goal for Moongrass scum is to push me, get mastina and gamma on board and then have the other scum defending me hammer. This would suggest but not prove a Mia/Moon team due to Mia not voting Moon yesterday and softening (partially) her stance here.

The problem with that scenario is that House's play looks more like agency capture (just barely) and that I don't think mastina votes outside of me/House.

How does town!you read my and moon’s interactions in this game and get SvS from that? Am I reading this correctly?

Because I’m really confused by this.

House · Post Post #3657 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:25 am

I have nothing left to solve, so...

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3658 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:31 am

In post 3657, House wrote:I have nothing left to solve, so...

You’ve locked moon and us as the team and you are the only one who refuses to re-evaluate. You aren’t even questioning other possibilities.

Moongrass · Post Post #3659 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:50 am

I make no sense partnered with Titus, House or Hydra. Therefore I am town.

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3660 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:50 am

In post 3656, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 3633, Titus wrote:By the votes, I want to say Moongrass and Maya.

By the play, I want Moongrass and House.

In post 3634, Titus wrote:I'm still very open to Moongrass town though.

In post 3635, Titus wrote:Right now, I think the goal for Moongrass scum is to push me, get mastina and gamma on board and then have the other scum defending me hammer. This would suggest but not prove a Mia/Moon team due to Mia not voting Moon yesterday and softening (partially) her stance here.

The problem with that scenario is that House's play looks more like agency capture (just barely) and that I don't think mastina votes outside of me/House.
How does town!you read my and moon’s interactions in this game and get SvS from that? Am I reading this correctly?

Because I’m really confused by this.

Oh and what’s “agency capture” again? I know you’ve answered this before but I keep forgetting.

And I didn’t “soften” not at all. I came into this day thinking I was probably going to vote moon but then House was being off the charts scummy and moon has been townier today than she has allgame. What you’re actually referring to is called “re-evaluating”.

Norwee will confirm that I deathtunnelled TGP in tm and since then, I always try to re-evaluate, so I don’t really think “softening” is either fair or accurate.

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3661 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:56 am

In post 3638, Titus wrote:@Koba, if you view me as town, it has to be moon/house.

Why?

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3662 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:00 pm

In post 3659, Moongrass wrote:I make no sense partnered with Titus, House or Hydra. Therefore I am town.

I know I’m not partnered with anyone. Anyone reading this game should realize we don’t make logical sense as a team. House is clearly planning on voting me and you already said, our interactions don’t look SvS and if Titus is actually pushing us as the team - which I’m still not clear on - I obviously can’t be buddies with her either.

I actually can’t tell what she’s thinking from those series of posts, which is why I’m unsure between you and her but House isn’t willing to consider any other possibility than you/me and I would expect town!him to be doing just that.

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3663 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:03 pm

In post 3661, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 3638, Titus wrote:@Koba, if you view me as town, it has to be moon/house.
Why?

Because there are no other possibilities. We have 2 confitown in Gamma/Mastina, so one of Titus/Moon/House has to be the other unconfirmed townie. There are no other possibilities.

Moongrass · Post Post #3664 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:20 pm

Hydra you and me have been on/off scumreading each other the whole game. Scum probably thought today would be an easy win with my Miselim. It's probably why House got Cyrus quickhammered since he knew we'd be at mylo today and that's chances of scum winning here is greater if hydra/me are here scumreading each other. Titus showing no paranoia of house here is more reliable to consider her stances than her pretending she is open to changing her read on hydra/me as scum.

Moongrass · Post Post #3665 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:22 pm

Titus is talking out of both sides of her mouth with her read on house. She hasn't considered that slot at all in a towny way.

Moongrass · Post Post #3666 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:28 pm

Just to be clear NM said he was going to check JJH on a Cyrus townflip > House effectively hammered Cyrus > House knew Cyrus was town and that NM would visit JJH > House knew JJH needed to get out of mylo to have a chance of a scum win > optimal play by scum house for winning at mylo. > House is scum.

Titus · Post Post #3667 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:28 pm

In post 3664, Moongrass wrote:Titus showing no paranoia of house here is more reliable to consider her stances than her pretending she is open to changing her read on hydra/me as scum.

That's objectively not true.

Titus · Post Post #3668 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:29 pm

In post 3664, Moongrass wrote:Scum probably thought today would be an easy win with my Miselim.

If that was the case, why kill DGB over mastina?

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3669 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:30 pm

In post 3654, House wrote:
In post 3652, Moongrass wrote:I think he was at some point, did it change?
Lack of gamesolving.

A quick iso of Gamma shows that he told me earlier today that he thinks it's me and Titus.

Moon isn't trying to do any footwork at all, because they have nothing to figure out.

this is a scum post

Titus · Post Post #3670 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:30 pm

In post 3662, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:Titus is actually pushing us as the team - which I’m still not clear on

My reads are mush atm.

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #3671 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:31 pm

In post 3648, Moongrass wrote:Hydra, I think you're town. Please work with me to win this game. Titus house are both pushing you/me as scum and trying to get their 3rd vote from Gamma. If you can see me as town and Titus as scum we win here.

oh so after d1 you wish to appeal to us huh?

Moongrass · Post Post #3672 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:32 pm

In post 3668, Titus wrote:
In post 3664, Moongrass wrote:Scum probably thought today would be an easy win with my Miselim.
If that was the case, why kill DGB over mastina?

That actually not a bad question. DGB dying and mastina living both frame you in a good light, they frame me in a bad light and it is effectively wifom.

Please discuss your progression on house through the game.

Titus · Post Post #3673 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:33 pm

In post 3645, Moongrass wrote:
In post 3643, Titus wrote:
In post 3641, Moongrass wrote:Considering noone who is confirmed town except Gamma has a townread on Titus, it's surprising that two slots have been defending her the whole game.
DGB died townreading me.
DGB didn't seem very interested in this game.

Yet she still died over mastina.

Moongrass · Post Post #3674 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:33 pm

In post 3671, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 3648, Moongrass wrote:Hydra, I think you're town. Please work with me to win this game. Titus house are both pushing you/me as scum and trying to get their 3rd vote from Gamma. If you can see me as town and Titus as scum we win here.
oh so after d1 you wish to appeal to us huh?

I'm not appealing anything, I've come to the conclusion you're town with a bad read on Titus - so to win I have to curb my paranoia of you and get you to see Titus as scum.