Am I the only one who finds the split claim a bit problematic? The informed part of the role was claimed so clunkily that it feels maybe a little fudged, like Wheme is trying to cover for the actual info he did receive.
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:35 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3585, Kate Bishop wrote:I also think we as a thread ignored the "under advice to not post in this thread" thing
Am I the only one who finds the split claim a bit problematic? The informed part of the role was claimed so clunkily that it feels maybe a little fudged, like Wheme is trying to cover for the actual info he did receive.
I didn’t want to use same wording cause I don’t want to get modkilled
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:02 pm
by Gamma Emerald
There are many ways to alter wording, that one just seems so butchered it feels forced out of the aether
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:14 pm
by WhemeStar
IDK YOU GET THE GIST OF IT
IM INFORMED THAT ID HAVE MORE FUN IN AN ISEKAI
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:15 pm
by Gamma Emerald
That’s not “informed” of jack shit
I don’t think jjh punked you so you’re just lying
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:15 pm
by WhemeStar
LMFAO
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:19 pm
by WhemeStar
Crazy how day 1 I said my role supports the idea of there being another thread
Crazy how when I claimed I said I thought the informed part of my role was just flavor because the game is based around isekais
Its all crazy right gamma
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:20 pm
by WhemeStar
Cabd you have my vote fuck it
I want Gamma SSBM Dunn though
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:20 pm
by WhemeStar
Eh idk maybe LLD instead of Dunn
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:20 pm
by WhemeStar
Holy fuck gif too
Gamma SSBM LLD Gif
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:22 pm
by WhemeStar
Actually fuck it I’m growing balls
Cabd u sheep me
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:23 pm
by Gamma Emerald
It looks like you’re trying to imply you knew what you were claiming in advance which makes you town, I don’t think so, it’s absolutely possible to plants seeds for a harebrained claim as scum
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:24 pm
by WhemeStar
Yeah except the only way I’m scum is that I’m lying about my flavor which makes no fucking sense because Cabds role would literally be useless
Unless you think cabd and I are both scum which then why would we ever do this
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:26 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Why would your flavor have to a be a lie for you to be scum
What if wheme fake claimed Shiro after seeing Cabd's claim in order to get the clear.
He keeps making posts that keep bringing that thought up.
Like the fact that when he was asked if he was shiro or sora, instead of just answering, he first read back to figure out why the question was asked. 3543
And that he instantly went into "I should be locktown now" mode with 3544 which did not feel like the way I would have thought about it. Like, my first thoughts would be on what that meant about Cabd instead of how it made me look I think?
And then the repeatedly going with the line that he can only be scum with cabd, 3595, 3605, 3614, 3618.
And that the "oh look, I am lock town" and the "Now I can only be scum with cabd" on repeat both came before he stopped to think about what it meant for cabd alignment, that did not come until 3607. And also, the leap from "cabd knows I am town" to "this means that cabd is lock town from my pov" is a bit dubious
But them my rational brain steps in, and tells me that it does not work, because it does fit with cabd's claim, and for that to be the world we live in, cabd just has a completely meme/red herring role.
So. I am not pushing my paranoia thoughts, but they are in the thread for the post game if I was right somehow
Okay realize now that this is your paranoia speaking and it makes no sense at all in the game and is not true at all so nice.
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:59 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I’d kinda already been at like Cabd/Kate/? for a while when you claimed your flavor
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:50 am
by Kate Bishop
We would like Cabd to say what he thinks we are prior to our claim.
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:23 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 3625, Kate Bishop wrote:also, there could have been a useful night action that we either didn't learn or didn't matter because the target was dead.
Quoting for my own iso
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:27 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 3627, Lukewarm wrote:Out side of the paranoia brain, because this works with or with out scum cabd.
One of my issues, is why did wheme just jump to "cabd is lock town" ? Where was the town paranoia in a game where so many town flips just happened? And they were also
all
of Cabd's scum reads flipping town?
Wasn't he just loudly touting the "sheep cabd, if he is wrong he is scum" line over and over yesterday?
But there was no paranoia, even though cabd's claim, while from a cabd pov makes wheme town, does not work in reverse.
Why would town!Wheme not be considering the scum!cabd possibility x.x
I don't think scum would have a role that informs them that flavors X and Y are town, unless scum has a traitor and the info is meant to help them find the traitor by POE. If anything, a scum!Cabd role looks something like "you are informed that Shiro has X power and that Sora has Y power." As scum, you already know Sora and Shiro are town (or potentially 3P, but you know they are not aligned with your own scumteam) because they aren't on your team.
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:50 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
I'm Akatsuki from Log Horizon, I'm a Tracker, not gated in any way.
Hence my suspicion when Titus talked about there not being an ungated Tracker, and my initial concerns about all the negative utility roles, because my role did not appear to have any negative utility. I voted Dunn in the anonymous voting because I tracked him last Night and he did visit DGB. I figured if I was killed in the anonymous vote without being able to claim that someone would put 2 and 2 together and see that I was TRing Dunn all day yesterday, and upon seeing my flip they would deduce I'd tracked him to the dead based on my vote.
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:12 am
by Dunnstral
That's either a lie or I visited without my own knowledge due to role.
Just to confirm, you're claiming that I only visited DGB?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:29 am
by Dunnstral
In post 3359, jjh927 wrote:Undead Magnet: You are a magnet for the undead, and abilities originating from the dead may find a way to reach you.
This is the part of S_S role that I inherited, except the wording changed so that I am the conduit for abilities originating from the dead
It may be possible that S_S indeed used an ability on DGB which I am not aware of, no feedback on my end
I bring up in 3536 that the extra vote from beyond could have come from GiF. It doesn't really make sense with what I got on my role or with S_S flipped role. The vote would just go to S_S which would be anti-town and it doesn't need to originate from me if it's just a vote. I think the way the ability transformed has some implications about the nature of the abilities the dead can use in that they are likely to be beneficial to the person it is used on.
That or SSBM is lying in mylim. I need to confirm with the mod that my role would show me as the visitor
