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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:06 pm
by Rad
In post 3647, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2063, Rad wrote:Just going to point out that Pooky appears to be using his own spreadsheet, as there was 1 difference between his reads post and what ended up in sheet reveal - Roden goes from null to town (with 24 Roden posts between these 2 Pooky posts, which is the majority of Roden's ISO)

And 1 more difference between and - Dancing Puppets goes from null to town (with 18 DP posts between these 2 Pooky posts)

So either town!Pooky is using the spreadsheet or scum!Pooky has planted this for someone to notice (Hello!). Pooky doesn't even mention the change in reads for Roden and DP, he just updates his chart and continues trying to gather more chart data (unless I missed it in the ISO skim, correct me if I'm wrong).

This is about the pace that my reads are changing as well, so while 2 seems kinda low maybe?.. it resonates with me at least.

I'm going with a strong town read on this, giving me 2 strong town reads now :D
One read change? In almost a thousand posts?

That is a top townread to you?

So Pooky is using a spreadsheet effort != Town.

One scum game I invented an entire code to buddy Frozen Angel and used it for three days.

I don’t get how the rest is relevant
Cool was just curious how you'd take that and I knew your response would at least be brutally up front :)

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:07 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 3565, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3561, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3559, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3553, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3436, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think jf/math r scum

no opinion on dwlee

rad is maybe a townlean atp i dunno.

bella probly town
Thoughts on Klick?
Klick is obvtown
More words please

Klick's scumgame is terrible and I would be shocked if he was somehow scum here
@Pooky, should I sheep you on Math I’m losing my tr on him. :/

In PYP he was more other focusdd than self-focused.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:07 pm
by Rad
Math how much of this game have you read so far?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:08 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3644, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3638, MathBlade wrote:I asked you to case Corwin and you complained it’s hard or refused rather than try it.
this is a completed corwin towngame:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go


he is much more involved and doesn't care about pissing people off and is invested in his own beliefs etc.

in this game he's not really around, came up with excuses for inactivity and when he was around didn't feel like he was like the above linked town game.
From what I gather Corwin did piss people off. So if I take your point at face value it’s wrong

I have another 75 pages ish I am behind on

I do not have time to read some linked game

You can actually explain what is different versus saying so

I already explained those points as having to be in a hood and sometimes RL happened

I even fucked called I was going to be wagoned while I was at work last night

Like cmon

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:08 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 3626, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3620, Bell wrote:So pooky is scum is then.
I am very much leaning that way

I don’t like how he up and ghosted.

I also know that pushing on him is a good way for people to never listen to me.
Alright!
If you flip wolf, can’t wait to lock town them!

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:08 pm
by RCEnigma
Reasoning out your predecessors actions is already a red flag but that’s just me. You wouldn’t do it for any other slot in the game because you aren’t them so, ya know.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:08 pm
by Lukewarm
As I read through tonight, and saw it happening, it felt like there were two people actively trying to keep the Math wagon alive after I abandoned ship. Pooky and Klick.

When I look back at how the two of them treated the slot, Pooky has had Corwin as a scum read for a while. He was scum on his reads list post, and scum in both spread sheets.

Comparatively, Klick did not mention a scum reading Corwin a single time until after I started my attempt to lead the thread. "Corwin" appears in Klick's iso in exactly 5 posts. Here is the progression, interspaced with when I first started trying to get people to move to corwin, and when I unvoted.

Spoiler:
In post 1544, Klick wrote:NULL
{Snip}
Corwinoid

In post 2061, Lukewarm wrote:After doing some reading, I am narrowed down where I want to move my vote to either Corwinoid and The Toad, but struggling to decided between the two.

Maybe they should just be dueling wagons?

In post 2167, Klick wrote:I had a small scumread on Corwin develop earlier but wanted to give him time to settle in the game. But people are talking about it now so I guess I'll pitch in and say I concur

But Toad isn't towny either so I'd go there too
In post 2189, Klick wrote:Mmm not feeling the Toad vote really.

VOTE: Corwin let's try this
In post 2914, Lukewarm wrote:I am starting to think that I failed as town leader

UNVOTE:

In post 3268, Klick wrote:
In post 3018, Bellaphant wrote:I didn't get much from maths' posting, which is strange because last game with them I was adamant about them being town to a very unbella-like point of intransigence.
This is probably because Corwin/MathBlade is just a scum slot and should die today

VOTE: MathBlade
In post 3302, Klick wrote:I don't really think Corwin's body of work looks like scumhunting, it looks more like projecting reads into the thread to look like he's scumhunting


No comment on Corwin.

I say we should wagon there.

An unoffensive join. "small scum read"

I say we should not kill Math

Now, the language is that the slot is "just scum and should die"

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Klick's engagement with this wagon reeks imo

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:09 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3653, MathBlade wrote:From what I gather Corwin did piss people off. So if I take your point at face value it’s wrong

I have another 75 pages ish I am behind on
ok then open up corwin's iso and show me where he pissed people off in this game then

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:09 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3651, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 3565, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3561, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3559, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3553, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3436, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think jf/math r scum

no opinion on dwlee

rad is maybe a townlean atp i dunno.

bella probly town
Thoughts on Klick?
Klick is obvtown
More words please

Klick's scumgame is terrible and I would be shocked if he was somehow scum here
@Pooky, should I sheep you on Math I’m losing my tr on him. :/

In PYP he was more other focusdd than self-focused.
The other game I believed we were elimming unelimable town and was a useless VT

Here I am juggling this and the other Pt and trying to catch up and because I am not being a toxic asshole I am getting scumread

There is no winning on MS for me as town

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:10 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 3647, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2063, Rad wrote:Just going to point out that Pooky appears to be using his own spreadsheet, as there was 1 difference between his reads post and what ended up in sheet reveal - Roden goes from null to town (with 24 Roden posts between these 2 Pooky posts, which is the majority of Roden's ISO)

And 1 more difference between and - Dancing Puppets goes from null to town (with 18 DP posts between these 2 Pooky posts)

So either town!Pooky is using the spreadsheet or scum!Pooky has planted this for someone to notice (Hello!). Pooky doesn't even mention the change in reads for Roden and DP, he just updates his chart and continues trying to gather more chart data (unless I missed it in the ISO skim, correct me if I'm wrong).

This is about the pace that my reads are changing as well, so while 2 seems kinda low maybe?.. it resonates with me at least.

I'm going with a strong town read on this, giving me 2 strong town reads now :D
One read change? In almost a thousand posts?

That is a top townread to you?

So Pooky is using a spreadsheet effort != Town.

One scum game I invented an entire code to buddy Frozen Angel and used it for three days.

I don’t get how the rest is relevant
But are you gonna plop a wolf read on them.
That’s the real question though.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:10 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 3642, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3628, RCEnigma wrote:Uhh, can someone compile all the hood claims? Every page I’m learning about a new one.
Bell - Taly
Luke - Cat Scratch Fever
Cytosine and Guanine - Mathblade
Dancing Puppets - Klick
I have not claimed who my hood mate is.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:10 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ok i'll unvote and let you catch up if you want to catch up dude

UNVOTE:

i still think you're mafia

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:11 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 3660, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3642, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3628, RCEnigma wrote:Uhh, can someone compile all the hood claims? Every page I’m learning about a new one.
Bell - Taly
Luke - Cat Scratch Fever
Cytosine and Guanine - Mathblade
Dancing Puppets - Klick
I have not claimed who my hood mate is.
Ooh spicy. Did CSF claim it?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:12 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 3660, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3642, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3628, RCEnigma wrote:Uhh, can someone compile all the hood claims? Every page I’m learning about a new one.
Bell - Taly
Luke - Cat Scratch Fever
Cytosine and Guanine - Mathblade
Dancing Puppets - Klick
I have not claimed who my hood mate is.
Is that your Hood mate?
Might be a scum slip by Dunn that also slips Cat.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:12 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3659, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 3647, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2063, Rad wrote:Just going to point out that Pooky appears to be using his own spreadsheet, as there was 1 difference between his reads post and what ended up in sheet reveal - Roden goes from null to town (with 24 Roden posts between these 2 Pooky posts, which is the majority of Roden's ISO)

And 1 more difference between and - Dancing Puppets goes from null to town (with 18 DP posts between these 2 Pooky posts)

So either town!Pooky is using the spreadsheet or scum!Pooky has planted this for someone to notice (Hello!). Pooky doesn't even mention the change in reads for Roden and DP, he just updates his chart and continues trying to gather more chart data (unless I missed it in the ISO skim, correct me if I'm wrong).

This is about the pace that my reads are changing as well, so while 2 seems kinda low maybe?.. it resonates with me at least.

I'm going with a strong town read on this, giving me 2 strong town reads now :D
One read change? In almost a thousand posts?

That is a top townread to you?

So Pooky is using a spreadsheet effort != Town.

One scum game I invented an entire code to buddy Frozen Angel and used it for three days.

I don’t get how the rest is relevant
But are you gonna plop a wolf read on them.
That’s the real question though.
I already do have Rad in my PoE

I don’t work on absolute town or scum unless glaring

That’s not how I function

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:12 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3661, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok i'll unvote and let you catch up if you want to catch up dude

UNVOTE:

i still think you're mafia
Fine I will get you that post first

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:14 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 3619, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3616, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 3467, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3150, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 3144, Bellaphant wrote:I dunno, like...pooky was pretty heavily town read, including by me early game, and now I too am just not feeling it - but that could be scummy, according to you?

P-edit I feel like you kinda just answered this.
Pooky is still a really hard tr for me. Like him moving me from yellow to green but not actually saying anything about it. Why does scum!Pooky squander an opportune chance at hard pocketing me?
I don’t follow. Wouldn’t yellow to green without interaction be a pocket?
How do you figure that?
“Hey look you were null now you’re town can we be friends?” (Fake puppy dog eyes)
You’re not going to get me to change my read on Pooky and this is lame.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:14 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1843, Corwinoid wrote:
In post 1823, Frogsterking wrote:
@Corwin
In post 1768, Corwinoid wrote:
In post 1765, Frogsterking wrote:Not true, Luke and I both TR Mala slot. You can find the exact point I decided to rule out the Mala slot for D1 in my iso.
You want to help me out with that, because your mentions of mala in your iso go from "I have played scum with scum!Mala and town with scum!Mala and I admit their start seems a little different in this game." in , to town binning her for pooky's spreadsheet at , to not mentioning her again a single time (at least by name) until just now.
This is possibly a contrived attempt at pretend-solving, I specifically decided to town bin Mala around the time I posted 482. That was my main motivation for sharing that comment in 482. Mala isn't mentioned again because I had no new takes on the slot. That's not difficult to understand. If you're town and this isn't pretend-solving, then stop shading my slot for no reason.
Holy shit dude, you made a read ~52 pages ago based on the start of the game, FoSed every other inactive player, and never looked twice at your very early read even given the "content" of her posts. And you don't think that's giving that slot a pass?
Start here Pooky

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:14 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 3662, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 3660, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3642, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3628, RCEnigma wrote:Uhh, can someone compile all the hood claims? Every page I’m learning about a new one.
Bell - Taly
Luke - Cat Scratch Fever
Cytosine and Guanine - Mathblade
Dancing Puppets - Klick
I have not claimed who my hood mate is.
Ooh spicy. Did CSF claim it?
In post 3663, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 3660, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3642, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3628, RCEnigma wrote:Uhh, can someone compile all the hood claims? Every page I’m learning about a new one.
Bell - Taly
Luke - Cat Scratch Fever
Cytosine and Guanine - Mathblade
Dancing Puppets - Klick
I have not claimed who my hood mate is.
Is that your Hood mate?
Might be a scum slip by Dunn that also slips Cat.
CSF is not my hood mate.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:15 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 3626, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3620, Bell wrote:So pooky is scum is then.
I am very much leaning that way

I don’t like how he up and ghosted.

I also know that pushing on him is a good way for people to never listen to me.
Pooky is town, move on.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:15 pm
by RCEnigma
Disappointing.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:16 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3666, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 3619, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3616, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 3467, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3150, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 3144, Bellaphant wrote:I dunno, like...pooky was pretty heavily town read, including by me early game, and now I too am just not feeling it - but that could be scummy, according to you?

P-edit I feel like you kinda just answered this.
Pooky is still a really hard tr for me. Like him moving me from yellow to green but not actually saying anything about it. Why does scum!Pooky squander an opportune chance at hard pocketing me?
I don’t follow. Wouldn’t yellow to green without interaction be a pocket?
How do you figure that?
“Hey look you were null now you’re town can we be friends?” (Fake puppy dog eyes)
You’re not going to get me to change my read on Pooky and this is lame.
Not my goal. I know no one ever elims Pooky D1

So either A) Pooky reboots or B) Pooky is scum

By that point I know and the game will know

Fighting people on a popularity contest is dumb

Certain people no matter how much I scumread them will never be elimmed D1

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:17 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 3670, RCEnigma wrote:Disappointing.
I believe that we have learned that Dunn and CSF are very unlikely to be scum together.

However, I was leaning town on both. So not really worth a lot lmao

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:17 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 3633, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3627, Bell wrote:Why aren’t you voting Pooky if Pooky is scum MB?
Are you voting them and I just missed it?
Because I think that Pooky is a scum lean.

I think Frogger elim and flip explains D1.

I also think no one elims Pooky ever even if he was to be mod confirmed scum D1
I’m not liming my strong tr. And again, this is whack.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:18 pm
by Rad
In post 3663, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 3660, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 3642, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3628, RCEnigma wrote:Uhh, can someone compile all the hood claims? Every page I’m learning about a new one.
Bell - Taly
Luke - Cat Scratch Fever
Cytosine and Guanine - Mathblade
Dancing Puppets - Klick
I have not claimed who my hood mate is.
Is that your Hood mate?
Might be a scum slip by Dunn that also slips Cat.
Even though it didn't pan out, I kinda like how quickly you came up with that question. Feels like a town-perspective sort of question that just popped into your head immediately.