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In post 3674, Ghostly Penguin wrote:

In post 3663, Nero Cain wrote:I can’t read PA. Gost has been lurking and his dropping unnecessary F bombs does seem like fake rage.

File this one under: "I'm much too lazy to hear what they're talking about so they're scummy because I can't read PA and Ghostlin has been cussing like a sailor like he's done every game. Also, Ghost's been lurking. Nero, I know you've played with me fucking before and you're able to track this hydra's activitiy, so you're either being fucking lazy or scum. Or both.

In post 3540, pieguyn wrote:town
5. pieguyn (replaces guille2015)
6. Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
12. Harakiri (a hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)
17. Lord Mhork


1. VoidedMafia
3. Nero Cain
7. Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
10. BBmolla
11. Ghostly Penguin (a hydra of Ghostlin and penguin_alien) (replaces Banakai)
13. uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford)
14. zMuffinMan
16. ProHawk
19. 1baldeagle1
21. Espeonage (replaces JacobSavage who replaced Klick)
^ 5 scum in those names. the other thing i noticed is that on D2 we were all gonna quicklynch Klick but then it got derailed onto DP. so it's possible Esp is right scum with Garuda

I don't know yet

currently at

10. BBmolla
13. uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford)
14. zMuffinMan
19. 1baldeagle1
21. Espeonage (replaces JacobSavage who replaced Klick)

but that may change any second now once I look at zmuffin some more

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

uʍop ǝpısdn (4): 1baldeagle1, ProHawk, Espeonage, pieguyn
Nero Cain (3): Lord Mhork, Garuda, zMuffinMan
Garuda (1): Harakiri
BBmolla (1): Ghostly Penguin
zMuffinMan (1): Nero Cain

Not Voting (4): VoidedMafia, Lost Butterfly, BBmolla, uʍop ǝpısdn

Deadline for Day 5 is Thursday, December 5th, at 4:00pm EST (site time).
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In post 3659, Voidedmafia wrote:Ignoring that you say you have a townread below this post, why?

I remember not liking him prior, that's kind of the straw that broke the camels back.

ghosty wrote:The only reason why I've not hated Nero Cain to death is PA says that his death tunnels are his town meta.

what "death tunnels"?

In post 3663, Nero Cain wrote:And at the same time we have the derpiest thing ever said that there’s no resistance to his wagon

He never said that?

In post 3662, Garuda wrote:And I still think ud is a bad lynch and will probably say that a lot because why the fuck is he getting lynhed?

I believe because he posted yesterday after DL got used, or something like that? That's what's been stated today, anyways.

In post 3663, Nero Cain wrote:But a muffin flip points towards you being scum, amirite?

No because muffin's called me town without defending me.

Replace muffin with mhork, and then you'd be somewhere, but on the other hand that applies to more than just me.

In post 3663, Nero Cain wrote:no? I mean back in the day I'd NEVER get town read so it was like a dead giveaway if anyone had a town read on me though lately (and you can check my games for proof.) I get defended by town. I mean its not impossible to buy that scum are defending me but come on.

Why are you demanding a readthrough of a game/s from someone who has neither the time nor the inclination to read them (nor really the ability to properly analyze what I'm reading)?

In post 3663, Nero Cain wrote:I'm pretty much in agreence with this though I'd like to add that PV also had a p strong town read on me (obviously not strong enuff to neighbor me or put me in his top 6) so I feel his read on me should carry a bit of weight.

"PV's reads are totes not to be 100% good for everyone to go by! Except his read on me, that one's cool." That's pretty much what I got out of this.

In post 3663, Nero Cain wrote:He also seems pretty disconnected from the game.

Aces was disconnected, yet he turned up scum. What makes Mhork different?

Molla pretty much is disconnected from the game, more or less, too.

In post 3663, Nero Cain wrote:I also still find it pretty scummy that he was calling Muffin “bleeding town” but didn’t see Muffin defending him.

I don't remember this. Muffin and I were the two people he called obvtown effectively because we defended him D2 instead of you.

In post 3673, Ghostly Penguin wrote:This is the dumbest reason for not voting anyone in a mafia game ever, particularly since scum likes to drive popular sheep wagons.

Molla has continued to advertise super scummy abilities, and continued to act as if his finger's fucking slipped. I mean, the abilities dictionary is -right on the first fucking page-. Then he's posted gems like someone should die because their reads suck. What the fuck?

It's really not our fucking fault that you can't be assed to figure out Molla's scum and vote for him.

Talk to me when there's support for a BB wagon, not when you're clamoring for a lynch that only you will ever be on at this point.

Do I agree with you that Molla looks bad? Yes. Do I think that you or I'd be able to swing a lynch onto him? Not today, no. So sit on it for tomorrow.

In post 3674, Ghostly Penguin wrote:has been cussing like a sailor like he's done every game.

Is this new because I don't recall seeing this before?

In post 3680, zMuffinMan wrote:

ghosty wrote:The only reason why I've not hated Nero Cain to death is PA says that his death tunnels are his town meta.

what "death tunnels"?

What muffin said.

In post 3679, BBmolla wrote:I remember not liking him prior, that's kind of the straw that broke the camels back.

Specifics?

uuu yeah

I think zmuffin is scum. I'd rather not elaborate, but I'm almost positive. I really hope I'm not wrong here > <

my current reads
town
5. pieguyn (replaces guille2015)
6. Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
12. Harakiri (a hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)
17. Lord Mhork

null
1. VoidedMafia
3. Nero Cain
10. BBmolla
11. Ghostly Penguin (a hydra of Ghostlin and penguin_alien) (replaces Banakai)
16. ProHawk

scum
7. Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
13. uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford)
14. zMuffinMan
19. 1baldeagle1
21. Espeonage (replaces JacobSavage who replaced Klick)

I'm certain at least 4 of the above names are scum. Garuda is the only one I'm not really sure of and if it's not him then it's probably Nero

now sheep me so we can win plz

oh yeah and I'm not sure about baldeagle either

all his posting around the time where he used vote freeze read fake as fuck. however, given the kind of shit people have been doing in this game, I wouldn't be too surprised if he ends up being town after all 0.0

you are wrong, and since you're not talking about why you think i'm scum, i'm just going to assume it's based on some silly paranoia since you clearly have no idea how to read my play

if there is a correct way to read your play and the reason I'm scumreading you is because I don't know what it is, then why is there almost no one here who's townreading you? certainly there HAS to be someone here who is familiar enough to know exactly why this is your towngame

even morph, who gave the most specific townread on you in this game, wasn't completely convinced

if enough people bother me I can out some of the exact reasons, but let's just see what happens first

in the meantime, what do you think about my other scumreads?

pieguy wrote:if there is a correct way to read your play and the reason I'm scumreading you is because I don't know what it is, then why is there almost no one here who's townreading you?

what counts as "almost no one"? i think about half the game still alive is townreading me? maybe? i'm not even keeping track but you apparently are so you can probably correct me here. not to mention KA, pyro, morph and seanald all had townreads on me, i think? some maybe weaker than others

pieguy wrote:even morph, who gave the most specific townread on you in this game, wasn't completely convinced

so what? they knew this is my towngame, they were paranoid about me because one head had written me off as obvtown before when i was scum - to the point it lost them the game.

was morph even completely convinced of anyone?

pieguy wrote:what do you think about my other scumreads?

already talked about ud and garuda, baldy and espeonage meh. i want to hear more from espeonage and i don't want to deal with baldy in the immediate future

there's people townreading you but no one's given any concrete evidence that this matches your towngame that I can recall. I'm not willing to buy townreads that don't have anything specific to them, especially on someone like you. I had a gut townread on you on D1 in imperishable night which was wrong as fuck. it wasn't till I had specific shit to look at that I moved you out of my townpile and even then it was mostly based off PoE, so I take all gut reads on you with a grain of salt.

two questions
1. why are you townreading uwop?
2. why were you townreading Klick when he was still in the game?

pieguy wrote:there's people townreading you but no one's given any concrete evidence that this matches your towngame that I can recall.

... are you serious? even if that exact thing didn't happen in this very game (by morph), what is the point you're driving at here?

pieguy wrote:why are you townreading uwop?

because their play has been consistently town-looking for like... the entire game. i don't agree with their attack on you, but i can see where they're coming from with it and don't think it's a scum-motivated push. and the way they've talked about their reads and various other things that have happened in the game (e.g. the rushed seanald wagon) looked town.

pieguy wrote:why were you townreading Klick when he was still in the game?

i think because of the tone of his posts and the way he was developing his reads D2? i don't remember but i've probably talked about it before. why are you asking me about this D5?

In post 3689, zMuffinMan wrote:... are you serious? even if that exact thing didn't happen in this very game (by morph), what is the point you're driving at here?

my point here is that I know you're a good scum player and that if I try to gut read you like I did in that other game, I'll almost certainly read you as town. I don't want to follow that path especially with only one more mislynch available, so I don't want to write you off as town without evidence of shit that absolutely and deterministically matches your towngame.

about morph, I think a lot of the stuff she said was applied incorrectly. I remember when I ISO'ed you I was reading her post and going "wait, this is probably his towngame? he's doing a lot of the shit you mentioned he does as scum".

Peregrine had also referenced specific similarities to your scumgame from what I can remember. and I've noticed similarities when doing my ISO of you

In post 3689, zMuffinMan wrote:why are you asking me about this D5?

because I didn't see it as relevant until now.

In post 3681, Voidedmafia wrote:Specifics?

I had a double day showday today, so I'll look into it tomorrow.

And I'll admit I'm disconnected from this game.

In post 3682, pieguyn wrote:null
10. BBmolla

\o/

We're making progress on reading me correctly.

Like, if the lynch directed at me was because I was playing terrible it'd be reasonable, if it is because people think I'm scum that's ridiculous

PV's issue with me came from something i said about seanald's advertising choice (austerity measures) and why it might have just been a move by dumb town rather than scum. he was cautious of this because a game we'd just finished, i was deliberately ignoring his points against my scum buddy and trying to make it seem like he didn't really have a case at all. he thought i was doing the same thing here for a scum buddy. that was... literally the entire reason PV was paranoid about me, and after a while he gave it up and simply declared a igmeou iirc. so the "similarity" he noticed isn't even really a similarity because seanald was town, lol.

i'm not going to go into whether or not you think morph didn't correctly apply meta or whatever. they did. i'm town. this is my town game, 100%. they knew this so they backed off of me. whatever you think you're seeing is wrong. it kind of disappointing that you admit you'd probably be gutreading me as town but you don't want to trust your gut.

zMuffinMan wrote:it kind of disappointing that you admit you'd probably be gutreading me as town but you don't want to trust your gut.

and now we have the overlap in thoughts that fkin hit several times in imperishable night

ok I changed my mind



we need to lynch this today. not at MYLO/LYLO, immediately. even though I'm relatively sure, I'm not quite as sure about him as I am of uwop, but doing this today will give us the most information for MYLO tomorrow. I don't want to have to make a really tough decision somewhere down the road and leave everyone open for large possibility for error.

if only mastin was here T_T

that's really fucking dumb

if you're really worried about me, then just hit scum today and it won't be fucking mylo tomorrow

and if you're just going to lynch me and go back to trying to lynch ud tomorrow, then you should just be ignored for the rest of this game

Pie, I'm not getting this push, like at all.

Yeah I'm not mafiaing tonight. Just checking in to say that I'm still reading along though.