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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:18 am
by Murder of Crows
Please put some words out there that address the issue.

Starting this game day, you began townreading the slot on the basis of objective things that happened. Your read has changed. You said it was because MS started posting. So, what has MS posted that made your townread go away?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:42 am
by Murder of Crows
Current VC

Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest (3): Antihero, F16, Boonskiies
Antihero (1): Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
F-16_Fighting_Falcon (3): Murder of Crows, Egg, Metal Sonic

Not Vote: SerraPaladin.

I'm personally ok with both leading wagons. I'm not sure what ffery thinks. I know we both hardtown MS and Egg. I might be coming around to antihero-town mostly because his recent posts have amused, but also partly because of discussing his interactions with AA9 with ffery. Ffery is worried about Boon, especially after recent posts. I could lynch him Today, but I am still wanting to avoid lynching PR claim today if possible.

As far as possible teams go, I don't think Antihero/Jesus makes any sense at all. There was pretty much no reason for them to be bussing each other so hard today if F16 is actually town. I don't see Jesus bussing that hard and I don't really think Antihero's reactions to them come from scum/scum. I also don't really see Jesus/boon making much sense. I don't see why they'd call him obvious town and defend him just to have him come in and bus them when F16 is lynchable.

I'm personally leaning F16 + Boon/Jesus at this point. I mentioned a F16/Boon possibility to ffery and she seems to think thats reasonable at least.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:51 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Hmm, that's interesting. Murder could in fact be scum.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:52 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
UNVOTE:

Need to rethink a bit.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:55 am
by Murder of Crows
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Hmm, that's interesting. Murder could in fact be scum.


Elucidate, plz.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:55 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Murder of Crows wrote:I'm personally ok with both leading wagons.

This isn't a post I can see coming from town.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:57 am
by Murder of Crows
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Murder of Crows wrote:I'm personally ok with both leading wagons.

This isn't a post I can see coming from town.


AP thinks you're both pretty much equally likely to flip scum.

I'm in flux on a lot of stuff atm :/

Rereading day 2 is painful.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:02 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
That's pretty complacent of him to believe. Considering me and Nacho have been at each other for most of the game and the game has been polarized between you guys vs me + the two leading wagons are on me and Nacho, I don't think it is a natural thought process to look and go "oh, they're both scum." Someone that's incredibly confbiased might think like that but I don't think AP is. The two of you have also changed your reads extremely often this game to the point that I don't reasonably believe AP is confbiased enough to make such a leap. My initial thought was the JBVTB is scum with you and that's why he's keeping his options open in the eventuality that they are lynched and flip scum. I'm thinking about the implications if they are town and you are scum.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:03 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
I've also been pretty good at predicting the flow of wagons. Either you are bad at those same predictions or your previous thoughts about how you will flip and not me were intended to garner sympathy.

Everytime you post, you pretend like you understand where I'm coming from and make me feel bad for pushing you. And AP shows up and tunnels me. And then he disappears and you show up etc. This is the literal definition of good cop/bad cop.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:04 pm
by Murder of Crows
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Considering me and Nacho have been at each other for most of the game and the game

No, you've mostly just been spamming the thread with posts at each other. Jesus and Anti have been 'at each other' wayyyyyyy more. And considering their stance on you is now "Uh, ya F16 is scummy we guess maybe but we are going to continue wasting our time on this vanity wagon"...really??

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:06 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
I can't imagine how you re-reading the game and analyzing and considering all the possibilities vs AP literally saying 1v1 me even remotely make sense.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:08 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Murder of Crows wrote:
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Considering me and Nacho have been at each other for most of the game and the game

No, you've mostly just been spamming the thread with posts at each other. Jesus and Anti have been 'at each other' wayyyyyyy more. And considering their stance on you is now "Uh, ya F16 is scummy we guess maybe but we are going to continue wasting our time on this vanity wagon"...really??

Which is pretty much the same thing you are doing with them.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:15 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Basically, if I'm going to get lynched, I want you (Ffery) on record as calling me scum and not have wiggle room out of it.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:21 pm
by Murder of Crows
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Basically, if I'm going to get lynched, I want you (Ffery) on record as calling me scum and not have wiggle room out of it.


The entire reason I'm wading back through this game is because I want to see if I'm wrong about you and to see if I'm wrong about the bodhi saatva. And incidentally to see if there's anything else going on among other players that has significance that I see now due to flips and claims.

I very seldom do this complete a reset this late in a game. I don't think I'd do it under many other circumstances/player lists.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:24 pm
by Murder of Crows
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I can't imagine how you re-reading the game and analyzing and considering all the possibilities vs AP literally saying 1v1 me even remotely make sense.


Then vote us.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:30 pm
by Antihero
metal, why aren't you voting nacho hydra?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:33 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Antihero wrote:nacho
mara

i am now
HERE


you've made no attempt to reach out to me

I give up

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:36 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
I was going to but I want to make this special.

VOTE:
Murder
o
f
Crows

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:36 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Does anyone really not realize that the pushes stopped forever ago?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:37 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anti, Jesus, Boon, Egg, Serra, Metal, with me. Let's do this.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:41 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Part of me just figured it might be best if I get lynched before LYLO but then I realized it is hugely suboptimal considering most people are reading me as town, not scum. Boon has me as town. Anti has me as maybe town. Serra has me as town. Metal has me as town. Egg has me and Murder both in a POE pool with Anti as scum. There is no need to let myself get compromise lynched just to appease AngryPidgeon.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:42 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
We're in a 1v1 now. Pick your side.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:48 pm
by Egg
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Anti, Jesus, Boon, Egg, Serra, Metal, with me. Let's do this.


No.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:48 pm
by Murder of Crows
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I was going to but I want to make this special.



I am really looking forward to reading you explain how you made this terrible, terrible mistake from the dead thread. You had damn well better be next line for rope!

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:49 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
That's cool. You're one of the people I intended to look into if Murder flips scum.