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Post Post #3675 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:26 am

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Jaqen Hghar wrote:The post Wicked is quoting of himself calling the Ari wagon garbage is giving a man an idea which could be breaking the game. Lynch the Kari slot. If that one is flipping scum
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There's definitely scum motivation for me to push for a Kari lynch (if she's not a mafia power role). And I'd be lying if I said that blatant defense of a partner isn't something that I'd entertain as scum.

But you can't deny that I have motivation, as town, to push for my preference.

You've been town reading me all game, I see no reason for you to assume the scum motivation over the town motivation when, in my opinion, both are equally realistic...
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Post Post #3676 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:29 am

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Unvote. Vote: ika


This is getting ridiculous. He needed rope a long time ago.
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Post Post #3677 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:48 am

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Jaqen Hghar wrote:You know what? This game is severely stalling out a few days ago. It is looking as if town are divided right down the middle. The post Wicked is quoting of himself calling the Ari wagon garbage is giving a man an idea which could be breaking the game. Lynch the Kari slot. If that one is flipping scum
goon
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Wicked is dooming himself with associatives in trying to steer town onto lesser scum for scum credit. Then, if that one too is flipping scum, the cross tunnel he is sharing with Mastin should put the final nail in scum's coffin.


However, if Kari slot is flipping town that is auto confirming both Wicked and Mastin and a man is rigtball along. Then we are lynching Cerberus and LC with Shakira or Sonic (in that order) for the remaining scum.


Remember, TSO investigated Wicked, and did little to choreograph said move...as flubber did little to choreograph his choice of invention recipient. So, your whole scenario also requires that TSO be scum. Any scenario you come up with that involves Wicked as scum means TSO is scum, and also means TSO scum(as wicked pointed out) chose to fake clear wicked(who didn't even have notable pressure on him), and thus draw attention to himself(when he didn't have any), and risk losing his slot at least(wicked might be able to argue that TSO scum != Wicked scum, which is true).

Seems like a risky line, what's the upside? Does an Ari/Mastin/TSO/Wicked team make sense?
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Post Post #3678 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:50 am

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I need to think about how I feel about this game.
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Post Post #3679 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:56 am

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There are not four scum - enough with that.
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Post Post #3680 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:01 am

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T S O wrote:There are not four scum - enough with that.

Antihero wrote:
THE SETUP


  • There are
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    town (13 players)
    and a
    mafia (4 players)
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Post Post #3681 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:01 am

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So, yes, there are not 4 scum left. We've had one scum flip, there are 3 remaining, the team I listed in my question to Jaqen includes the dead scum.
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Post Post #3682 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:04 am

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My contribution so far has been rubbish due to two reasons; I was investing myself more in another game which I felt required my presence more than this game did, and I presumed the medley of competent players here could probably succeed even without me. That hasn't happened, and with the aforementioned game ending in a very disappointing manner, I am definitely going to make a commitment here.
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Post Post #3683 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:05 am

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I'd point to that as a township, but I could probably have faked it as scum in all honesty.
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Post Post #3684 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:05 am

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TSO, do you think ika's town? Yes or no?
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Post Post #3685 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:06 am

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Townslip, not township.

Yes.
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Post Post #3686 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:11 am

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Titus/Sonic, have you read his ISO? Because that should be all you need. In particular your push is awful. Ika's scumgame is worse than this.
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Post Post #3687 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:12 am

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Phone posting is an exquisite form of torture - back to my trusty computer in a day.
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Post Post #3688 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:13 am

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I know ika's avoiding this thread like the plague and that's 100% his scum meta. He at least started out sorta trying in the early game. He failed the L-1 hammer as well. The only time I've seen him fail this is when he was scum. I'm sorry if that was legit real world, but to me it just looks like scum.

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Post Post #3689 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:16 am

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Look at d1 posts in his ISO.
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Post Post #3690 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:25 am

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He made one PoE wall. I don't see anything not fakable. I am not playing the "go fish" game.
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Post Post #3691 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:04 am

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Cerberus v666 wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:@Vezok, without a CC, lynching Cerb is bad play.
He has to give is inventions to obvtown.
A block gets us a scum.

If we lynch ika and get a successfully role blocked kill (or just lynch ika plus his buddy), then the role block clears people.


Because giving my can catch scum invention to obvtown isn't what i was ALREADY doing? How can you make that argument and even think there's a reasonable chance I'm still scum?

Also, can you please tell me why you decided to share what the invention was, when earlier today you were ADAMANT that we not share it? I could have kept up my fake claim of receiving it by knowing what it was, and then perhaps preserved the secrecy of my role, but you said it was better that scum didn't know what the invention was...so I partially claimed, rather than claiming the nature of the invention.

That...irritates me. A lot. I sacrificed utility to keep some information restricted to just town, and you just decided to sacrifice it all.


A man isnt seeing where that one is saying what the invention is. The above is feeling much and more comtrived. At this point, with his other thoughts being wholly ignored, a man is thinking Cerb knos he is having more pressure today with Ari flipping scum and is deciding to soft his way through the day. Spill the beans already. If what you are saying is true, you're scum meat anyhow and eithholding at this point is hurting only town.
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Post Post #3692 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:07 am

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Jaqen, please tell me you aren't this obtuse. If you really want me to to I can link you to where my invention was outed, but it's not very hard to find, otherwise i wouldn't be pointing it out. I mostly ignored it the first time, because I was hoping maybe scum would just skim over it, but some more explicit things have been stated in thread that make it too obvious to hope it gets missed. There's nothing left for me to withhold.
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Post Post #3693 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:23 am

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@Cerb, Get off your high horse. That is all. I did what I had to do. You're just making it worse.

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Post Post #3694 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:28 am

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Yeah town reading ika just for his day 1 posts is pretty bad in my opinion. Even then he didn't contribute much, nothing wasn't fake-able, and he had Tere to talk to back then. Now that Tere is gone, it's clear that ika doesn't care at all about scum hunting.

I wish I had requested that Mod replace him a few weeks ago. It's not fun playing with someone who's literally doing nothing, despite being in several other games. :(
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Post Post #3695 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:40 am

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Sonic Boom wrote:@Cerb, Get off your high horse. That is all. I did what I had to do. You're just making it worse.

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Eh. I guess there's nothing positive to be gained about harping on about it. Still waiting for Jaqen to realize what happened.

Ika was last active in this game 2 weeks ago, when he had a flurry of posts on the 14th and 15th. Since then he hasn't contributed anything.
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Post Post #3696 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:16 am

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mastin2 wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:So why should I turbo lynch Nacho if you flip?
Because fuck your arrogance in insisting that this is a game of "you've been right/wrong" (when YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG YOURSELF!), I know how to read Nacho if given time, I think he's scum but while I'm pretty sure I'm not absolutely sure and IF I DIE, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.


Like how much time?

He's been here a month, and has 111 posts.

I've seen like 10 of his posts, and I'm leaning more town just from the tone of those alone. And we probably have no where near the number of games that you/him have.
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Post Post #3697 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:18 am

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PeregrineV wrote:
mastin2 wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:So why should I turbo lynch Nacho if you flip?
Because fuck your arrogance in insisting that this is a game of "you've been right/wrong" (when YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG YOURSELF!), I know how to read Nacho if given time, I think he's scum but while I'm pretty sure I'm not absolutely sure and IF I DIE, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.


Like how much time?

He's been here a month, and has 111 posts.

I've seen like 10 of his posts, and I'm leaning more town just from the tone of those alone. And we probably have no where near the number of games that you/him have.


What do you think about Jaqens idea that lynching you you will clear or damn a number of different slots?
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Post Post #3698 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:12 am

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Cerberus v666 wrote:
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mastin2 wrote:
Sonic Boom wrote:So why should I turbo lynch Nacho if you flip?
Because fuck your arrogance in insisting that this is a game of "you've been right/wrong" (when YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG YOURSELF!), I know how to read Nacho if given time, I think he's scum but while I'm pretty sure I'm not absolutely sure and IF I DIE, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.


Like how much time?

He's been here a month, and has 111 posts.

I've seen like 10 of his posts, and I'm leaning more town just from the tone of those alone. And we probably have no where near the number of games that you/him have.


What do you think about Jaqens idea that lynching you you will clear or damn a number of different slots?


I haven't looked it over, but I highly doubt that.

There are 2 people who do VCAs.

Town who hope it will give them info and point them in the right direction, and scum who know it's fucked up but hope to use it to their advantage.

Since I'm guessing it was all vote-based (the "clearing based on who voted me", it's pretty worthless at this point.

Or, use it as a starting point and see if those players are scummy.
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Post Post #3699 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:15 am

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Cerberus v666 - 1 (Jaqen Hghar)
ika - 5 (Sonic Boom, Cerberus v666, mastin2, vezokpiraka, Wickedestjr)
Lying Cat - 2 (PeregrineV, St Constantine the Hermit)
vezokpiraka - 1 (Nachomamma8)

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