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legit question, why do i lie about this as scum? why? how is this anything but human fucking error?

for fucks sake

In post 3675, Venmar wrote:legit question, why do i lie about this as scum? why? how is this anything but human fucking error?

for fucks sake

Because if we succeeded, you'd have to confirm us as town. You'd also have a PT with us.

~Titus

how does scum Venmar know you'd be confirmed as town from that? granted, getting a PT was something he would have figured out, but i don't see how that's motivation to lie or something for scum Venmar to be worried about.

Venmar: if you haven't already, please solve it asap. thanks. <3

and his error looks NAI to me. without explicit correction i'd also assume hoods close when planes change. Venmar, i have some question for you but that will have to be dealt with later this evening.

TBH, seems like you really shouldn't have acted so hastily if the ability you have would have confirmed you as town to someone. :-/ Should be *zero* cause for uncertainty on the part of the people answering you.

IDK why Venmar wouldn't check whether or not his PT still worked(particularly since the PT, at the top, says that it will exist regardless of the effect of planeschases(at least, mine does, with B&M), but I also dunno why scum!him would lie about it.

Actually, if B&M is scum, I'm certain Venmar is town at this point, since he'd have even more reason to know how that role worked, since I've talked with B&M in that PT since the day started.

-Cerb

In post 3678, Chara wrote:and his error looks NAI to me. without explicit correction i'd also assume hoods close when planes change. Venmar, i have some question for you but that will have to be dealt with later this evening.

There is explicit correction in the header of the PT's, where it lists the membership. Again, still think Venmar was just being dumb in the way people usually are about abilities and making assumptions, but not scum because of it.

-Cerb

I'm coming in here to back , I don't want the day to end so quickly at the moment, and I'm going to ISO several people in extensive depth.

So it may take a day or so before I post my shit-ton of thoughts.

, I'll probably get to you in a separate post.

For now, UNVOTE:

In post 3676, Bronya Zaychik wrote:

In post 3675, Venmar wrote:legit question, why do i lie about this as scum? why? how is this anything but human fucking error?

for fucks sake

Because if we succeeded, you'd have to confirm us as town. You'd also have a PT with us.

~Titus

i dont even know what youre talking about, how was i supposed to know this

In post 3677, Chara wrote:Venmar: if you haven't already, please solve it asap. thanks. <3

i got 100%, had to resubmit to varsoon cause idk how to prove it

In post 3668, Venmar wrote:so, after confirming with varsoon, i will admit that i actually do have a pt. i took the AT THE MOMENT very literally in kiana's question, and i was under the impression that i didn't have access to it anymore since i didnt check it since day start, but it turns out i do.

i have a solo pt with baku, who neighbored me around the time the lynch occured.

Hey, Venmar, not sure if Titus already said anything about this, but here's a little special something for you:

~Kiana

In post 3679, Reasonably Rational wrote:TBH, seems like you really shouldn't have acted so hastily if the ability you have would have confirmed you as town to someone. :-/ Should be *zero* cause for uncertainty on the part of the people answering you.

IDK why Venmar wouldn't check whether or not his PT still worked(particularly since the PT, at the top, says that it will exist regardless of the effect of planeschases(at least, mine does, with B&M), but I also dunno why scum!him would lie about it.

Actually, if B&M is scum, I'm certain Venmar is town at this point, since he'd have even more reason to know how that role worked, since I've talked with B&M in that PT since the day started.

-Cerb

We don't care for being confirmed town. Sure, it's useful, but it's not a benefit we really right now. Don't want to end up like OnTheMark. We're more concerned with catching scum with that.

The ability pretty much works as a masonizer but since Venmar's a total twat we've expended it and will not get to use it again, especially considering that we're out of Undertale Mafia tomorrow.

Titus made a mistake by revealing that bonus part of our ability but what's done cannot be undone.

~Kiana

So, does anyone recall EXACTLY when the thread was locked?

I'd also like the know the EXACT time that all these PT's with B&M were created.

As I said, my main concern is that they had actions submitted to Varsoon, and Varsoon just came online and read through all his PM's and performed actions in the order received, thus giving the impression that B&M acted immediately before the hammer.

-Cerb

In post 3688, Reasonably Rational wrote:So, does anyone recall EXACTLY when the thread was locked?

I'd also like the know the EXACT time that all these PT's with B&M were created.

As I said, my main concern is that they had actions submitted to Varsoon, and Varsoon just came online and read through all his PM's and performed actions in the order received, thus giving the impression that B&M acted immediately before the hammer.

-Cerb

Yeah, I believe this is the most likely assessment. B&M probably sent in the actions to create neighborhoods while Varsoon was asleep, and Varsoon resolves all role-actions immediately upon waking up. It may or may not have been a coincidence that a day-ending hammer was triggered at the same "wave" that Varsoon had to resolve.

~Kiana

In post 3685, Bronya Zaychik wrote:

~Kiana

What is this?

Use proper images please

Here I will assist you

I would answer that but it was random that did it sooooo you will have 5o wait for him.

In post 3679, Reasonably Rational wrote:TBH, seems like you really shouldn't have acted so hastily if the ability you have would have confirmed you as town to someone. :-/ Should be *zero* cause for uncertainty on the part of the people answering you.

IDK why Venmar wouldn't check whether or not his PT still worked(particularly since the PT, at the top, says that it will exist regardless of the effect of planeschases(at least, mine does, with B&M), but I also dunno why scum!him would lie about it.

Actually, if B&M is scum, I'm certain Venmar is town at this point, since he'd have even more reason to know how that role worked, since I've talked with B&M in that PT since the day started.

-Cerb

I straight up answer seems like the most confirmation we could get. What would you want us to do? Ask him to check for something that doesn't exist according to him? We wanted you but you had a hood with B and M.

Why are you whiteknighting instead of using Occam's Razor?

~Titus

@Kiana, it wasn't a mistake at all. Talk to me.

"Assistance" failed.

~Kiana

In post 3691, baku and munna wrote:I would answer that but it was random that did it sooooo you will have 5o wait for him.

Why did you never hood us? I feel sad we got no cookies. Venmar over us.

~Titus

In post 3691, baku and munna wrote:I would answer that but it was random that did it sooooo you will have 5o wait for him.

You could just ask the moderator when the actions submitted by your slot were submitted, and when they were received by him.

Easy.

-Cerb

In post 3693, Bronya Zaychik wrote:"Assistance" failed.

~Kiana

What what

Cuteness above all!

P. Edit

When we got our ability I actually said day start that we should hood you, RR and maid but soemthih6something when I was away and Venmar was picked over you.

In post 3696, baku and munna wrote:What what

Cuteness above all!

I can't view the image at all. Can anyone else?

In post 3692, Bronya Zaychik wrote:

In post 3679, Reasonably Rational wrote:TBH, seems like you really shouldn't have acted so hastily if the ability you have would have confirmed you as town to someone. :-/ Should be *zero* cause for uncertainty on the part of the people answering you.

IDK why Venmar wouldn't check whether or not his PT still worked(particularly since the PT, at the top, says that it will exist regardless of the effect of planeschases(at least, mine does, with B&M), but I also dunno why scum!him would lie about it.

Actually, if B&M is scum, I'm certain Venmar is town at this point, since he'd have even more reason to know how that role worked, since I've talked with B&M in that PT since the day started.

-Cerb

I straight up answer seems like the most confirmation we could get. What would you want us to do? Ask him to check for something that doesn't exist according to him? We wanted you but you had a hood with B and M.

Why are you whiteknighting instead of using Occam's Razor?

~Titus

@Kiana, it wasn't a mistake at all. Talk to me.

Occam's Razor provides equal evidence for them being dumb town, as dumb scum(because either way, that was fucking dumb).

And I suppose I just don't expect much from Venmar with regards to mechanics, perhaps because of the tone of his posts, I just don't expect him to be super mechanically oriented, and therefore likely to make mistakes(as he just did), so I would have wanted to be extra sure before risking wasting the ability. *Shrug*

-Cerb

In post 3692, Bronya Zaychik wrote:

In post 3679, Reasonably Rational wrote:TBH, seems like you really shouldn't have acted so hastily if the ability you have would have confirmed you as town to someone. :-/ Should be *zero* cause for uncertainty on the part of the people answering you.

IDK why Venmar wouldn't check whether or not his PT still worked(particularly since the PT, at the top, says that it will exist regardless of the effect of planeschases(at least, mine does, with B&M), but I also dunno why scum!him would lie about it.

Actually, if B&M is scum, I'm certain Venmar is town at this point, since he'd have even more reason to know how that role worked, since I've talked with B&M in that PT since the day started.

-Cerb

I straight up answer seems like the most confirmation we could get. What would you want us to do? Ask him to check for something that doesn't exist according to him? We wanted you but you had a hood with B and M.

Why are you whiteknighting instead of using Occam's Razor?

~Titus

@Kiana, it wasn't a mistake at all. Talk to me.

Come online, you're not responding.