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In post 3629, Hectic wrote:shelly, what changed from this stance? Recently, you've been calling UNOwen town for the same reasons I have, but the reasons I'm giving for him being town (voting and associating himself with Noraa) are actually the reasons you thought he was scum before.

im re-evaluating

i reread doggos, noraa talked *around* me a whole bunch but no effort to push with me or sort me
noraa sorts uno and oushes with them together

In post 3632, Hectic wrote:I guess shelly could've been bussing Noraa because the gamestate had Noraa at a nearly universal townread, so nothing shelly could've done or said would cause Noraa any harm.

why do I randomly bus a UTR scum

when they're not likely to get flipped

its -ev to bus UTR scum. i am like blatantly obviously not scum with noraa

In post 3659, PlusJOYED wrote:shellys scumgame is very good but her towngame is questionable.

lets look back across the game

so if the solve was shelly/noraa/???
I early powerbussed my scum partner for no reason at all
I pushed jackson for the scumslip thing and buried all energy into it
I hard pushed grendel and was arguably the person who led that wagon
plus you know that I do not much as scum in early game. and what is the scum benefit for me to do all of that early d1; to help town solve the game??

im convoluted town. if you think this = my scum meta, if you think I go against the world as scum, think again

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In post 3674, shellyc wrote:

In post 3663, Hectic wrote:That's another fabricated thought process that no town has there.

I should compile a list of them across the game.

you love meta right

you know clearly that my scumgame is measured and sensible, maybe even more logical than towngame
towngame is emotional and impulsive and all over the place

do you think me who makes reads and thoughts emotionally = consistent logic
as either alignment it is not easy for me to provide coherency in my thoughts

Really? I thought it was the complete opposite. Your town game is more chill/less aggressive but you have weird reads that get you launched.

Your scum game is really aggressive and a lot more confident, you still have the weird reads but people like them more when it comes with that tone.

In post 3647, Hectic wrote:She says "actually" eventually but having the thought in the first place is just... not possible for any townie which thinks about it for more than 2 seconds. There is a claimed guilty, 1 of the two of them is scum. Scum kills the person claiming a guilty on them to confirm themselves as scum??? No. This is not a genuine thought. This is fake bravado which scum like to throw out, like "watch when I die, kill this person" kind of thing.

exactly
as town I dont think twice before I post, really I do stream of consciousnesses a LOT of times

In post 3679, Hectic wrote:

In post 3674, shellyc wrote:

In post 3663, Hectic wrote:That's another fabricated thought process that no town has there.

I should compile a list of them across the game.

you love meta right

you know clearly that my scumgame is measured and sensible, maybe even more logical than towngame
towngame is emotional and impulsive and all over the place

do you think me who makes reads and thoughts emotionally = consistent logic
as either alignment it is not easy for me to provide coherency in my thoughts

Really? I thought it was the complete opposite. Your town game is more chill/less aggressive but you have weird reads that get you launched.

Your scum game is really aggressive and a lot more confident, you still have the weird reads but people like them more when it comes with that tone.

i have a conscious effort to make myself more likeable as scum
that is the main core

very soon you'll have meta about it but I do tunnel as mcuh as scum/town but the way I present the tunneling as town is "GET THIS PERSON NOW STOP VOTING THE OTHER PERSON" and as scum is "hey this guy is scum *newsflash im solving yay go townread me*"

In post 3676, shellyc wrote:

In post 3632, Hectic wrote:I guess shelly could've been bussing Noraa because the gamestate had Noraa at a nearly universal townread, so nothing shelly could've done or said would cause Noraa any harm.

why do I randomly bus a UTR scum

when they're not likely to get flipped

its -ev to bus UTR scum. i am like blatantly obviously not scum with noraa

Not really true, bussing UTR scum if you can make it look genuine is great for distancing.

I do wonder why you were the only person to continue suspecting Noraa when everyone else had her as probtown.

In post 3680, shellyc wrote:

In post 3647, Hectic wrote:She says "actually" eventually but having the thought in the first place is just... not possible for any townie which thinks about it for more than 2 seconds. There is a claimed guilty, 1 of the two of them is scum. Scum kills the person claiming a guilty on them to confirm themselves as scum??? No. This is not a genuine thought. This is fake bravado which scum like to throw out, like "watch when I die, kill this person" kind of thing.

exactly
as town I dont think twice before I post, really I do stream of consciousnesses a LOT of times

Based on time stamps in your other games, I'm pretty sure you do stream of consciousness/post without you think as both alignments.

Give me s town game where you're pushed for similar "no way these thoughts are genuine" reasons.

no

because of site rules

ALSO Noraa was really aggressive this game, and a little more ragey than usual, it kind of surprised me but I chalked it up to her being fired up for the game or whatever.

But you what'd explain that shift? A scum-shelly-partner coaching and teaching her about her signature aggressiveness.

In post 3686, Hectic wrote:But you what'd explain that shift? A scum-shelly-partner coaching and teaching her about her signature aggressiveness.

noraa can be aggressive. im gonna redirect you to newbie 2028 where she tunnelled someone for almost the whole day.

I also dont feel qualified enough to coach dayplay at all

hectic is now confbiased and sees something that is within noraas scumrange and attributes it to a 2020-join-date person who almost singlehandedly lost noraa's first scum game because of a shit role claim...

In post 3633, UNOwen wrote:Shelly claiming specific N3 tracker is pretty convenient and I agree that it only makes sense as a scum play if she is trying to save dave from death. I have not had a chance to look at her ISO yet but she interacted with Noraa loads and quite aggressively, it's difficult to imagine scum being so confident doing that. Maybe on review my mind will change.

why is UNO fence-sitting again
this is not the first time in the game you have done this

ugh why am I scumreading both {dave/UNO} equally when There Can Only Be One

here's why I'm never scum here
if it was shelly/hectic = no elim -> no kill -> get dave
shelly/duppin = obviously impossible
shelly/dave = why dont I just bus dave and win in f4 when my partner is in a worse position than me
shelly/UNO/ = why do I literally agree with Norway's thoughts that last scum is UNO d4. again we just get dave here
shelly/plus = obviously impossible

In post 3671, shellyc wrote: I have never rolled TPR on this site until this game, i play chat mafia and had not much concept of crumbing

I said before. i think playing TPR is mainly to find out conftown = more valuable than town, and duppin was like a null read since forever for me

How does a 1-shot tracker find conftown when there are presumably two scum left?

In post 3692, UNOwen wrote:How does a 1-shot tracker find conftown when there are presumably two scum left?

slip that theres 3 scum?

I dont think before posting. soft confirms are a thing as well, UNO.

if i got a result of "xxxx visited nobody" they have a statistically higher chance to be town, so we should not elim them

UNO can you not comment on near-irrelevant things and comment on this
is dave due a prod yet

In post 3654, duppin wrote:also regarding whether we should lim today or not, UNO is kind of right. Ever since shelly forced a 1v1 between me we can justify limming today simply because it's going to be the exact same players you need to solve tomorrow

I was saying we should don't need to rush the day to an end. I still believe we should not execute, even though the choice is the same whoever dies outside the 1v1 will rule things out for the remaining players.

In post 3695, UNOwen wrote:I was saying we should don't need to rush the day to an end. I still believe we should not execute, even though the choice is the same whoever dies outside the 1v1 will rule things out for the remaining players.

wait are kills complusive

why are y'all not considering a scum no kill???

no killing widens the pool for scum and its optimal for scum to no kill. if we no elim and scum no kills we're back to square one.

can we just get duppin now

In post 3694, shellyc wrote:if i got a result of "xxxx visited nobody" they have a statistically higher chance to be town, so we should not elim them

And if you get the result "xxxx visited the kill" then they have a near certainty to be scum. I don't see why you would not track someone you were suspicious of in this situation.

If scum no kill then obviously a decision will have to be made with what we've got, but that's not guaranteed and we lose nothing by finding out.