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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:52 am
by Shoshin
I'm guessing Wisdom used a fakeclaim and I'm guessing his fakeclaim is related to his actual role just like all the fakeclaims have been. And I'm guessing his real role has a connection to Sarah just like the fakeclaim. And that explains why scum are looking for Sarah.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:53 am
by Scioness Sajj
but sarah is dead
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:54 am
by Shoshin
Sajj, why didn't you just claim 1-shot vig to begin with?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:54 am
by Shoshin
Yes, Sarah is dead. Correct.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:11 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 3722, Shoshin wrote:Just think about it for a second, Sajj. Why do scum have an identity cop?
Have not really thought why would scum have identity cop. No clue how much information she actually got but assuming it was as she said then it in itself is a good fakeclaim. If Chick has chosen her target better she could be close to cleared.
In post 3724, Shoshin wrote:Reviver isn't protection though I wonder if redirector could theoretically cause scum to be revived?
Also, strongman is specifically about getting through jailkeeper and bodyguard.
I mean if you think I'm scum then reviver is pretty much a protection since all nk actions come from scum.
If you don't think I'm scum reviver also has a really decent chance to bring back a town anyways.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:13 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 3725, Shoshin wrote:I'm guessing Wisdom used a fakeclaim and I'm guessing his fakeclaim is related to his actual role just like all the fakeclaims have been. And I'm guessing his real role has a connection to Sarah just like the fakeclaim. And that explains why scum are looking for Sarah.
what do you mean
so far fakeclaims has been either full or part of actual role.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:25 am
by Scioness Sajj
at that point in the game i felt like getting night killed wouldn't be the worst course of action. didn't think it would be that much of damage to town and i still think it wasn't. perhaps more than i was expecting but not game losing case. was thinking of clarifying when the worst started planning my na but decided to stick with it and here we are.
still think killing GIF is my biggest sin.
i also never gambited before, it's fun
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:26 am
by Shoshin
Chick was a scum identity cop.
What benefit do scum get from an identity cop? It helps them identify characters.
Why would scum need to do that? It doesn't tell them what role the characters have... so maybe scum benefit from actually knowing the characters themselves.
Wisdom claimed a role tied to Sarah. If Wisdom is scum, the value of his role to scum would be based on knowing who Sarah is.
If Wisdom is scum, he's probably fakeclaiming. But we know that the fakeclaims bear some similarity to the actual roles that scum have. So even if he's scum, he probably has a role tied to Sarah.
And if scum Wisdom has a role tied to Sarah, it explains why scum benefit from an identity cop.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:27 am
by Shoshin
Sajj, think about why you weren't nightkilled.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:28 am
by Shoshin
You also need to think about the Nico protection.
If I'm scum, why would I protect Nico?
Scum don't seem to have had any knowledge that Nico was macho.
In what world do I protect Nico while a partner uses the nightkill on Nico?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:28 am
by Scioness Sajj
i could keep going like that with you for few more pages but we need answers not question, so unless you have a good solution don't think there is much point.
i believe going me>you>(wheme>worst)or(wisdom>random) is the right way.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:29 am
by Shoshin
Fuck, Sajj, you're going to lose us this game.
I'm not asking you questions. I'm trying to get you to think about the game because you're not listening to the answers I provide.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:30 am
by Scioness Sajj
eh, I know I'm the only one listening in the moment but i'm not the one you should be talking to.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:33 am
by Shoshin
Sajj, I protected Nico on the same night that scum killed Nico. That's an undeniable fact.
I want you to think about why scum would ever use protect a cop from being nightkilled. The answer is, they wouldn't. My action makes sense
ONLY
from a town perspective.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:35 am
by Scioness Sajj
nah not taking credit for losing the game if it happens.
you have been providing a lot of maybes, maybes are possible but there is no way in figuring out how plausible they are. and it's not like I'm going to hammer myself so if you think going me>you is wrong then you gotta appeal to people voting not me.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:36 am
by Shoshin
I'm not providing possibilities, I'm providing probabilities.
It's highly improbable that scum protect a cop from being nightkilled. That's a fucking fact.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:37 am
by Shoshin
I'm not talking about maybes. You konw who is talking about maybes? Everyone who thinks I COULD be scum when the evidence says I'm PROBABLY not.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:37 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 3738, Shoshin wrote:Sajj, I protected Nico on the same night that scum killed Nico. That's an undeniable fact.
I want you to think about why scum would ever use protect a cop from being nightkilled. The answer is, they wouldn't. My action makes sense
ONLY
from a town perspective.
not if:
you are scum protective and you knew that nico was going to check either random/reality (and there was no lynch d1) so it was worth gambiting
+
if wheme is scum with you that gives you even more reason to do that.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:38 am
by Shoshin
Sajj, the people voting you are the scum who need to be lynched.
My appeals will be to you, Nancy, and Wheme.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:39 am
by Shoshin
Probability, Sajj. Fucking probability.
You're talking about these very remote possibilities when I'm talking about what's probable.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:40 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 3740, Shoshin wrote:I'm not providing possibilities, I'm providing probabilities.
It's highly improbable that scum protect a cop from being nightkilled. That's a fucking fact.
it is highly imporbable that scum vig wouldn't retract bluff about being able to kill a townie/scumpartner while pushing lynch on another scum partner.
yet here i am
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:41 am
by Scioness Sajj
I'm sorry sho, i know i'm irritating you but i have achieved really peacful state.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:41 am
by Shoshin
In post 3742, Scioness Sajj wrote: In post 3738, Shoshin wrote:Sajj, I protected Nico on the same night that scum killed Nico. That's an undeniable fact.
I want you to think about why scum would ever use protect a cop from being nightkilled. The answer is, they wouldn't. My action makes sense
ONLY
from a town perspective.
not if:
you are scum protective and you knew that nico was going to check either random/reality (and there was no lynch d1) so it was worth gambiting
+
if wheme is scum with you that gives you even more reason to do that.
So, for me to be scum, I would have had to known that Reality was going to check Nico and that Nico was macho cop. As scum, how could I know either of those facts?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:43 am
by Randomnamechange
no, when the NK is missing you just claim that it was because of you
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:44 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 3743, Shoshin wrote:Sajj, the people voting you are the scum who need to be lynched.
My appeals will be to you, Nancy, and Wheme.
but there is two two many, maybe one so.
i'm rather confident where to look when you flip but for you to flip i have to flip to.