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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:13 am
by Skygazer
Cool can we lynch this now

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:16 am
by Ausuka
VOTE: HeWhoSwims

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:33 am
by HeWhoSwims
8. Skygazer
9. Jingle Inferno390
10. Chickadee*
12. HeWhoSwims
16. Nosferatu AndriusGustavo

Seems like when I erase anyone who won't be lynched for sure we end up with this. Why me? I've made it clear what I think of Sky and Chick. And the others aren't *big* townreads exactly...why me? What redeems them? Flip me and you're one flip closer to a scum win.

I don't know about the others but I was right on MoI, Dram, A50. Not Profii. But would it be wise for me to bus PRs and try to salvage a goon? Dunno what the others did exactly in that regard but it wouldn't seem like great play d1/d2

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:47 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 3727, HeWhoSwims wrote:Flip me and you're one flip closer to a scum win.
I think we're at the point where we just kill all the non-clears and then get our town win
Sooo you're just first
If you're town that should be fine, yes?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:57 am
by HeWhoSwims
I generally don't like that but I guess I have no say here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:05 am
by Irrelephant11
Right I mean same, I don't know much about the game leading up to this point so I'm just following the consensus not-clear vote

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:12 am
by Skygazer
Side note: this is such an obvious town win that I would've conceded by now if I was scum

I've conceded before, I'd do it again

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:14 am
by the worst
I think we lynch Nos here for the {MoI, Nos, Chickadee} slot information

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:16 am
by HeWhoSwims
That's a pretty good plan.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:20 am
by the worst
fistbump Harold#2

Gotchu fam

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:59 am
by Chickadee
In post 3732, the worst wrote:I think we lynch Nos here for the {MoI, Nos, Chickadee} slot information
MOI is dead dear. You killed that slot. That was Kokichi.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:07 am
by HeWhoSwims
It still confirms you though.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:17 am
by Chickadee
Yup. I read it wrong. I'm silly.

I'm fiiiine. Ok. I'm good. Back to doing my own thing. I'll try to get in the swing of things when I'm not doing a dozen other things right after waking up.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:48 am
by Nosferatu
why would you kill someone for info on chick if you're lynching chick regardless lmfao

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:49 am
by Nosferatu
just lynch me cause you think im scum it aint that controversial damn

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:48 am
by the worst
More like if yoire up in LyLo and you ARE town we're gonna lose over the sheer WIFOM man :(

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:50 am
by Ausuka
In post 3740, the worst wrote:More like if yoire up in LyLo and you ARE town we're gonna lose over the sheer WIFOM man :(
I mean we could lynch hws and you could just shoot nosf. There's no need to worry about LYLO.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:26 am
by Raskolnikov
Okay

I think sky gets benefit of the doubt and we lynch hws and vig nos if game isnt over after the lynch

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:30 am
by Raskolnikov
Actually idk mmmm

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:31 am
by the worst
\o/

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:33 am
by Raskolnikov
So if chick is scum, nos/andy town psychologist picked her n1 and chick knew or got lucky and claimed venge?
Either figuring it from play (maybe moi does this), claimed it coincidendally as wifom (moi did kinda gambit with claiming as he did), or rolecop or similar give it away
It doesn't seem likely but moi reinforcing andys result feels kinda gross in retrospect

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:35 am
by Chickadee
I mean, I'm ok with being the lynch, but I am absolutely shooting HWS if I die.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:39 am
by the worst
In post 3745, Raskolnikov wrote:So if chick is scum, nos/andy town psychologist picked her n1 and chick knew or got lucky and claimed venge?
Either figuring it from play (maybe moi does this), claimed it coincidendally as wifom (moi did kinda gambit with claiming as he did), or rolecop or similar give it away
It doesn't seem likely but moi reinforcing andys result feels kinda gross in retrospect
earlygame MoI/Chick interactions reeeeek of pocketing tho so my first impressions were like "ah lol chick is town BUT WAIT"
yeah literally anything is possible. it's a great claim but also like

town psych => town vengeful guilty
town detective => town vig guilty

both on n1 makes me :thinking: emoji
possible but not probable

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:52 am
by Raskolnikov
~Town
Detective
Loyal Fruit Vendor
Activatable BP
Protective(?)
Psychologist(?)
Venge(?)
Vig(?)

~Scum
Prime Night Jailkeeper (fairly strong)
Disloyal Fruit Vendor (not a strong role)
Goon
???????? Loud? Tracker? Rolecop?

HWS is probably informed regardless but as a role it doesnt feel strong enough to necessarily have to go either way


I'm trying to get in the head of pine here...
In a usual scenario, the fruit vendor does WAY LESS because of the mafia jailkeeper. Block either fv or target and FV maybe thinks its a guilty on the guy.
Detective psychologist.
The modified detective role here gamma claimed seems powerful. Sure maybe it gets vig (or SK) but finding if a scum has EVER killed? Very useful I think, although can't inno people.
Psychologist IDK seems really weird. Have trouble parsing it in a balance sense, weaker than det obviously and maybe could "false guilty" chick if she is town but eh
If anything this role claim might just be fake as it doesn't seem useful for scum to have this role either
vig is often wildcard as can often hit town early on instead of this game, but with the investigative power to PoE mod should maybe slightly realise vig is better functioning than usual here because of poe.
Given all the lack of kills it is somewhat likely there is some town kill blocking role as well, variations of which generally tend to be powerful (although JK seems to be ruled out)
I thought brass might have been a JOAT earlier but him just claiming to have more BP activations is kinda ehh

Why does MoI gambit day 2 with JK dead? Perhaps he made his mind to do so before any suggestion of ausukas existence?
If its not to put his partner in a better position, idk. Maybe for towncred himself, although then people wonder why he remains alive later.

I almost feel like scum have to have some kind of tracker or rolecop variant this game, and actually a multitasking FOLLOWS THE THEME of essentially all new normal-rule-roles

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:54 am
by Raskolnikov
Oh yeah follower.

Follower might suggest scum tracker too if jingle is town