Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[Thestatusquo]

I'm not picking on farside: I've mentioned her three times. One was in the context of voting her for her behavior. And the other two were in the context of LISTS of other people, the very antithesis of "picking on someone"

That hardly seems like busing?

I'm wondering what exactly is the basis for calling me scum, by the way? It seemed to be because you decided I was busing zwet, who then turned up to be town. Now you've decided I'm busing farside, when I've listed her in a group of 4 suspects, and voted her non randomly at the end of the RVS. In addition, that assumes that she and I are BOTH scum, which seems relatively an insane statement to make in the middle of day one with NO substantiation.

This is why I hate playing with you, because you get these crazy theories with NO evidence at all behind them, and then you continue to harp on their correctness for no reason why ignoring everything else.

How about instead of just responding to my post by going "He's busing farside lol" you respond to

1) My attack on you. (Oh, guess I must be busing you, huh?)

2) The other two people who I attacked. What do you think of my attacks on hasdagfas and xyl? Am I busing them too? Inquiring minds want to know.

This is why I hate playing with you. Get your head out of your ass and THINK.

[DrippingGoofball]

I could have sworn that all we had was a confirmation phase. Why is everyone act like we had a night 0?

What are you talking about?

People asked why DGB was still alive. My thought well because there was no night 0 that is why.
I just voted for her because she loves to BW me to death.

Unvote, Vote Farside

FYI, my current vote is not random.

Currently most likely to be scum in my eyes is farside

, but that could easily change. Like I said, the day just started.

List of people who are getting off far too easily right now and will have to talk more today/tomorrow or face my wrath:
4. CounselWolf
5. Simenon
6. qwints
9. stark
14. Jebus

18. farside22

I forget what farside did that earned my ire

. I'm going to go back and re-resd and see if it was anything bigger than XYLs entrance. If it isn't, expect me to be voting him. If it is, expect some pressure and votes on her.

So you're not picking on farside?

OK, what would you have to do to consider yourself to be picking on farside? Especially given the fact that farside has been VLA most of the game and has done nothing yet.

[Thestatusquo]

DGB: No it didn't. Neither did the fact that Caboose called him "obvtown" and both things pinged my scumdar, but your full out and blatant defense of him was something emulated by no one else in the game. And in order to narrow down my suspects for a vote, I have to narrow down to just the most eggregious offenders. I can't vote for 6 people.


And how the fuck am I selective? This is the first time I've attacked you all game? In fact, I even made a point of saying how I didn't think the things I was disagreeing with you on earlier makes you scummy.

Why are you picking on me?

YOu've said I'm selective, when it's clearly not true (I attacked 4 people in my LAST POST for fucks sake, when you've attacked 2 all game (me and sam))

You've said I'm picking on farside when I've clearly only mentioned her 3 times and 2 times in the context of lists.

You've said I'm busing zwet which is clearly not true because he flipped town.

Since the previous isn't true, you switched tracks and decided that I was busing farside, even though she has done nothing to warrant being bussed, and such a statement would require us BOTH to be scum.

Is my well so delicious that you have to continually poison it? What the hell have I done to warrant these logicless attacks?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm wondering what exactly is the basis for calling me scum, by the way? It seemed to be because you decided I was busing zwet, who then turned up to be town.

I also said that scum would would exploit zwet's weakness to the fullest possible extent, in the hope of a vigorous and fast lynch. I stated clearly that my list of suspect was pretty much the same, independently of zwet's alignment.

[Thestatusquo]

lol.

The first one is voting her

The second "reference" is just telling the town that my vote is not random, because we're in the random stage. It could easily have been in the same post. How is this damning?

The third is referring directly to my vote because I was ASKED why I thought most likely to be scum at that point. How would you expect me to respond?

Farside hasn't posted anything, so she was included on a list of 6 people who have not posted enough in my eyes. Heh. Real busing here.

Then I mentioned that I was voting her earlier in the midst of an attack of 3 other people. I'm pretty sure I'm not focusing on her.

Also, I just remembered what I was voting her. She basically acted like she had been left out of a night that she thought hadn't happened. Her reaction seemed like a scum player finding out that there was a n1 and they hadn't got their kill in yet. It was definitely good enough for a d1 vote, but not as good as the stuff we've had since then. It's not as big as what XYL did.

Vote: XYL

[DrippingGoofball]

Speaking of delicious. Post 377 is like a box of chocolate covered bonbons.

I will step back and leave the pleasure of chewing each heavenly morsel to someone else. Who'll be the lucky one?

[Thestatusquo]

I'm wondering what exactly is the basis for calling me scum, by the way? It seemed to be because you decided I was busing zwet, who then turned up to be town.

I also said that scum would would exploit zwet's weakness to the fullest possible extent, in the hope of a vigorous and fast lynch. I stated clearly that my list of suspect was pretty much the same, independently of zwet's alignment.

So...You think I'm scum because I was voting zwet, a player who was actively acting scummy, lied, and claimed miller, and then unclaimed it when he found out he was going to have to prove his claim. Now tell me, how do you expect a pro town TSQ to react. Also, how do you differentiate my reactions from Yosarian2's, who you have called town, considering we took pretty much the exact same actions.

[Thestatusquo]

I'm actually really close to asking to be replaced. I just remembered why I hate playing with DGB.

[hasdgfas]

anyone want to claim that?

Anyone want to stop rolefishing?

Vote: hasdgfas

please tell me why a claim by whoever used this is a bad idea.

[hasdgfas]

Hasdgfas has rolefished like 4-5 times this game (obviously exaggeration) but I would say def. 2.

please point them out. (yeah, the one caboose voted me for is obv one, but what's the other?)

[Xylthixlm]

The difference is zwet was scummy while Jebus has done nothing scummy.

This is a fallacy. Things you

don't

do can be just as scummy as things you

do

do.

[scotmany12]

The difference is zwet was scummy while Jebus has done nothing scummy.

This is a fallacy. Things you

don't

do can be just as scummy as things you

do

do.

The only thing you have accused Jebus of doing is lurking and being more active in other games, something you cannot call him scum for. As stated before, his lurking in this game can be done as town while his activity in the other games can be done as scum. So he has done nothing scummy. So unvote him.

[Xylthixlm]

It's especially unsatisfying because you were tied for lowest posts at that time, so you could have just as easily voted for yourself. That makes your method highly suspect if you're town.

FoS: Xyl

I didn't feel like voting myself and then having to unvote when I made obviously protown posts.

[Xylthixlm]

The only thing you have accused Jebus of doing is lurking and being more active in other games, something you cannot call him scum for.

Yes I can.

[Xylthixlm]

Also, I just saw a "but he could be doing it as town so it's not scummy" fallacy go by.

[scotmany12]

It's especially unsatisfying because you were tied for lowest posts at that time, so you could have just as easily voted for yourself. That makes your method highly suspect if you're town.

FoS: Xyl

I didn't feel like voting myself and then having to unvote when I made obviously protown posts.

You haven't done anything protown yet in this game.

The only thing you have accused Jebus of doing is lurking and being more active in other games, something you cannot call him scum for.

Yes I can.

Thanks for ignoring me.

[Thestatusquo]

It's especially unsatisfying because you were tied for lowest posts at that time, so you could have just as easily voted for yourself. That makes your method highly suspect if you're town.

FoS: Xyl

I didn't feel like voting myself and then having to unvote when I made obviously protown posts.

That's not the point. The point is that your voting method is obviously flawed, due to the fact that it lists you as an equally likely scum candidate as the person you ended up voting for. Considering the fact that we've had about 15 pages of hard content, there has got to be a better method for voting than one which, if you're protown, is proven to be inaccurate to you.

[Xylthixlm]

Your argument seems to be that Jebus is innocent until proven guilty.

[scotmany12]

Your argument seems to be that Jebus is innocent until proven guilty.

He is, and anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded.

[Xylthixlm]

That's not the point. The point is that your voting method is obviously flawed, due to the fact that it lists you as an equally likely scum candidate as the person you ended up voting for. Considering the fact that we've had about 15 pages of hard content, there has got to be a better method for voting than one which, if you're protown, is proven to be inaccurate to you.

You have unrealistically high expectations for the accuracy of my voting methods. Throwing darts at a dartboard is my baseline.

[Xylthixlm]

Your argument seems to be that Jebus is innocent until proven guilty.

He is, and anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded.

Nice ad hominem. Personally, I've found that "guilty until proven innocent" works better in this game.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

9 to lynch

Jebus: 5 (camn, populartajo, Xylthixlm, Yosarian2, DrippingGoofball)
DrippingGoofball: 2 (farside22, CounselWolf)
sam.samhorn: 1 (qwints)
camn: 1 (Jebus)
hasdgfas: 1 (Caboose)
Xylthixlm: 1 (Thestatusquo)

Not Voting: 7 (stark, crywolf20084, Caboose, hasdgfas, Yosarian2, scotmany12, sam.samhorn, Kmd4390)

[sam.samhorn]

Hmm zwet being town throws things off a bit. Scum vibes coming from TSQ and Caboose -- rereading their posts currently to see if I'm right or not.

[Thestatusquo]

That's not the point. The point is that your voting method is obviously flawed, due to the fact that it lists you as an equally likely scum candidate as the person you ended up voting for. Considering the fact that we've had about 15 pages of hard content, there has got to be a better method for voting than one which, if you're protown, is proven to be inaccurate to you.

You have unrealistically high expectations for the accuracy of my voting methods. Throwing darts at a dartboard is my baseline.

You don't see why voting for someone with a method that says you're just as likely to be scum as the person you're voting is flawed?

[Caboose]

Jebus is being wagoned strictly for lurking?

If you look at my post you'll find that I made a case against Jebus earlier on.

You did. But others, mainly Xyl, are only voting him for lurking.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Well if that's true, the same case could apply to a few other people. Why not mention Counselwolf, stark, qwints, sam, farside, or crywolf?

Farside is v/la, I believe.

there seemed to be very few reasons NOT to be voting Zwet, let alone actively defending him.,,

What part of "I have role-based info that says that zwet is telling the truth" does anyone not understand?

And I agree with DGB that it looks like TSQ is bussing farside, particularly because farside hasn't done anything particularly objectionable yet.

please tell me why a claim by whoever used this is a bad idea.

Outing a possible day vig this early is like using sandpaper as toilet paper: it's just not a good idea.