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This is incorrect. Here's ThAdmiral's llama vote and I don't read it as random. If this was bussing, it was masterfully done.Kreriov wrote: Heck, his vote on llama was an RVS vote that we just happened to get lucky with even.
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377 = deflection. please post your stance on op.
if you think i am scum then you should have more than just a gut feeling and you should be able to tie me to the final scum member. if you want to lynch me then you should at least do me the courtesy of explaining yourself in full detail.
in iso you seem to do quite a bit of defending of op based solely on the fact that you thought his wagon to be scum driven. you also voted santos while stating that you felt that llama and i were scum.
also you stated this:
tbh i get a serious town read on you. the only real reason i can think you to be scum would be omgus and i am smarter than that. your statement about the day talking scum seems genuine and your thought process is not too flawed. but i find my question to be extremely relevant and don't understand why now, after all of your hard work, you seem content to lynch me with little to no discussion.
your reasons for giving op townie points make some sense after reading you in iso, however, why have we lost sight of saberwolf?
if you think i am scum, then you should have me partnered with someone. me asking you to lynch them first should be a null tell as the request flfills both the town and scum win condition. for some reason, you are reading my actions as scummy when in fact they should read null. please think more and discuss more before condemning me.
if you think i am scum then you should have more than just a gut feeling and you should be able to tie me to the final scum member. if you want to lynch me then you should at least do me the courtesy of explaining yourself in full detail.
in iso you seem to do quite a bit of defending of op based solely on the fact that you thought his wagon to be scum driven. you also voted santos while stating that you felt that llama and i were scum.
also you stated this:
artem wrote:I think the remaining scum are in {DJ, dothefadango, ThAdmiral}.
by your logic that means that TA and i are the remaining scum, yet you seem to be defending him here. why is that?thadmiral wrote:ThAdmiral's llama vote and I don't read it as random. If this was bussing, it was masterfully done.
tbh i get a serious town read on you. the only real reason i can think you to be scum would be omgus and i am smarter than that. your statement about the day talking scum seems genuine and your thought process is not too flawed. but i find my question to be extremely relevant and don't understand why now, after all of your hard work, you seem content to lynch me with little to no discussion.
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your reasons for giving op townie points make some sense after reading you in iso, however, why have we lost sight of saberwolf?
if you think i am scum, then you should have me partnered with someone. me asking you to lynch them first should be a null tell as the request flfills both the town and scum win condition. for some reason, you are reading my actions as scummy when in fact they should read null. please think more and discuss more before condemning me.
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VOTE COUNT
don_johnson (1): orangepenguin
orangepenguin (1): Kreriov
Seraphim (1): saberwolf
Not voting (5): ThAdmiral, Konowa, Artem, Seraphim, JamesBond, don_johnson
With
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players alive, it'll take 5
votes to lynch.379 = deflection. "Let's look at anybody except me.... ThAdmiral, OP, saberwolf.... anybody, just not meeee!!!!"
From my perspective, why should I be looking for your buddy when your alignment is not even confirmed (even though I expect it to be scum). At this point in the game, I can't quite place your potential partner. Once my suspicion of you is confirmed (via a cardflip), then I'll start searching for your partner. Right now, it's a wild goose chase.
2. Based on the last few posts about TA I'm beginning to think that I'm wrong to suspect him.
Already done it here, here, and here. My stance hasn't changed.DJ wrote: please post your stance on op.
Why are we even talking about it right now? From your perspective, if you really are a townie, you have no partners, so the question and the answer to it are completely irrelevant and only confuse and distract from scum-hunting.DJ wrote: if you think i am scum then you should have more than just a gut feeling and you should be able totie me to the final scum member.
From my perspective, why should I be looking for your buddy when your alignment is not even confirmed (even though I expect it to be scum). At this point in the game, I can't quite place your potential partner. Once my suspicion of you is confirmed (via a cardflip), then I'll start searching for your partner. Right now, it's a wild goose chase.
1. I'm not defending TA. I'm correcting Kreriov.DJ wrote: by your logic that means that TA and i are the remaining scum, yet you seem to be defending him here. why is that?
2. Based on the last few posts about TA I'm beginning to think that I'm wrong to suspect him.
You're the next highest suspect on my list, and what do you callDJ wrote: but i find my question to be extremely relevant and don't understand why now, after all of your hard work, you seem content to lynch me with little to no discussion.
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if not discussion? I think your wagon will be very revealing.pepoel who spel bad and don't know grammer is jerks
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Hey, I defended someone and he flipped town!
I'm fairly sure the following people are town:
Konowa
saberwolf
Artem
Kreriov
Myself
The rest:
ThAdmiral
DJ
OP
JamesBond
I think that I have the strongest scum read on DJ. I have the weakest scum read on JB because frankly, he's not all that scummy. ThAdmiral needs to post more after he gets his new modem. OP has been active-lurking.
That's all.
@Kreriov. I guess I misunderstood the scumpartner thingy.
I still think we have little better reasons for DJ lynch than OP, but im pretty much even there. Same thing as last round for me, I will vote for the wagon who goes fastest of these two.
We will probably have to lynch both of them at any point here, it doesnt feel like they will come back around and be real townish. Time is an issue here, and we need to go for fast lynches now.
I still think we have little better reasons for DJ lynch than OP, but im pretty much even there. Same thing as last round for me, I will vote for the wagon who goes fastest of these two.
We will probably have to lynch both of them at any point here, it doesnt feel like they will come back around and be real townish. Time is an issue here, and we need to go for fast lynches now.
@Artem - Yup, thank you for correcting me. ThAdmiral's vote was not RVS. I had it down as the first vote on llama and just assumed it was in RVS. Rereading ThAdmiral has only reinforced my townie feel for him.
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dj, your unvote in 379 does not make sense coming from town. Artem is right, that post is very deflective, enhanced even more by the unvote. I do not even know who you are suspicious of.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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honestly, i am suspicious of everyone at this point. i wasn't even all that suspicious of either llama or santos, they just seemed like good lynches and i believe time is of the essence. you call my post a deflection. but what did i deflect? are their questions i didn't answer?
oh, it must be a deflection because i don't find myself suspicious. the fact that artem refuses to speculate is rather telling to me. he seems to be well reasoned for the most part, but seems uninterested in uncovering scum and simply pushing his lynch through. but whatever.
may as well move along. none of you are using your brains here so you may as well off me and figure this out.
artem/james bond/op in no particular order. good luck.
oh, it must be a deflection because i don't find myself suspicious. the fact that artem refuses to speculate is rather telling to me. he seems to be well reasoned for the most part, but seems uninterested in uncovering scum and simply pushing his lynch through. but whatever.
vote dj
may as well move along. none of you are using your brains here so you may as well off me and figure this out.
artem/james bond/op in no particular order. good luck.
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@DJ - What are you thinking? I found it very interesting to see how quickly those voting for you before moved over to DTF. I want to see who will go back to voting you or not now that it only takes 5 to lynch. Basically if the same people vote for you now as were before, you will be lynched. I want to see if those people have the courage of their convictions. You voting yourself takes that away. I think that the info gained from your lynch, particularly if you flip town as I suspect, will give the town the win. You only hurt the town voting for yourself.
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fine. i'll lynch jamesbond or op. my issue with artem is clouded. i am mainly upset that he doesn't seem to be looking elsewhere, but it could be that he really thinks i am scum.
in response to the three iso posts of artem's opinion of op:
1: states op is negligent as opposed to actively lurking.
2: thinks op is town because he wasn't on the santos wagon.
3: again, thinks op is town due to santos flipping scum.
2 and 3 are the same. none of these justify op as town based on his own actions. artem has not analyzed op at all. if op flips scum i would lynch artem for sure. if we don't to go for op then i would lynch jamesbond because he hasn't been scumhunting, but rather openly professing that he is willing to wagon just about anyone using the "time is of the essence" argument.
if this drags on, don't be surprised if i revote myself.
vote: op
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Why am I being lynched again? Because I have been ignoring this game and every other game I am in?
JamesBond is town. I believe that. I still don't like Krer ever since he voted me the first time around. I do thing my original wagon was scum driven. I think the scum is in DJ/Krer/Sera.
I am not confirmed town and I find it interesting that people say that. However, I do believe the scum are once again taking advantage of my absence.
What am I? L-2 ?
DJ continues to act scummy, his self-vote the latest in a long line of scummyness.
Now I have to go check on my other games, because if you do some research, I've been ignoring more than just this game.
JamesBond is town. I believe that. I still don't like Krer ever since he voted me the first time around. I do thing my original wagon was scum driven. I think the scum is in DJ/Krer/Sera.
I am not confirmed town and I find it interesting that people say that. However, I do believe the scum are once again taking advantage of my absence.
What am I? L-2 ?
DJ continues to act scummy, his self-vote the latest in a long line of scummyness.
Now I have to go check on my other games, because if you do some research, I've been ignoring more than just this game.
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no. your alignment is in question and you are doing nothing pro town.orangepenguin wrote:Why am I being lynched again? Because I have been ignoring this game and every other game I am in?
why?op wrote:JamesBond is town. I believe that.
there are only two left. please detail your suspicions.op wrote: I still don't like Krer ever since he voted me the first time around. I do thing my original wagon was scum driven. I think the scum is in DJ/Krer/Sera.
artem has been your biggest supporter. care to discuss how you feel about him?op wrote:I am not confirmed town and I find it interesting that people say that. However, I do believe the scum are once again taking advantage of my absence.
What am I? L-2 ?
do tell. with 2/4 scum already lynched, how is putting myself at L-1 "scummy"?op wrote:DJ continues to act scummy, his self-vote the latest in a long line of scummyness.
^^ pleading ignorance at this stage of the game? i find this scummy, especially considering op is trying to paint my self vote as scummy. but whatever. feigning indifference is almost mirror behavior to a self vote. in fact, i think its scummier than the self vote by far.op wrote:Now I have to go check on my other games, because if you do some research, I've been ignoring more than just this game.
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Well, OPs post was underwhelming to say the least.
@OP - You only have one vote on you at this time, mine. So cut the poor me crap. I am perfectly well aware you haven't been doing anything in any of your games since Sunday. My vote is soley to see what you would say when you got back. I was not impressed. Please try again without the OMGUS and some real analysis.
@OP - You only have one vote on you at this time, mine. So cut the poor me crap. I am perfectly well aware you haven't been doing anything in any of your games since Sunday. My vote is soley to see what you would say when you got back. I was not impressed. Please try again without the OMGUS and some real analysis.
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I'm here, but I may becaome less active for the rest of the month. I'm only supposed to use less than 100 hours of internet a month, and I'm afraid I may be close to surpassing it, so that means less time on the computer
anyways, I think DJ is looking somewhat scummy with his latest posts, but I do want to remind you that Seraphim is a key component in this as well. He was linked to two scum, and holds a fountain of opinion when it comes to sides and alignments. Lynching him could help end this game very easily. If he flips town, an ISO would easily show his last remaining scumbuddy. If he flips town, I'd take his dying thought sand opinions to the bank and go from there. If sera were to flip scum, I'd go after OP or DJ next.
for now my vote stays as is.
anyways, I think DJ is looking somewhat scummy with his latest posts, but I do want to remind you that Seraphim is a key component in this as well. He was linked to two scum, and holds a fountain of opinion when it comes to sides and alignments. Lynching him could help end this game very easily. If he flips town, an ISO would easily show his last remaining scumbuddy. If he flips town, I'd take his dying thought sand opinions to the bank and go from there. If sera were to flip scum, I'd go after OP or DJ next.
for now my vote stays as is.
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saberwolf XIX (2:53:59 AM): what do you know about bigger and better? >.>
drench394 (2:54:04 AM): um
drench394 (2:54:13 AM): i've been going through puberty for the better part of a year now
The Last Post Bandit strikes again!
drench394 (2:54:04 AM): um
drench394 (2:54:13 AM): i've been going through puberty for the better part of a year now
The Last Post Bandit strikes again!
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@OP - Strawman much? Um, read me in ISO and then say I am not doing analysis. And YES, OMGUS.
Oh yeah
This is the very definition of OMGUS. If you don't like getting votes, don't active lurk! That is why I was voting you originally. The fact that so many people jumped onto your wagon and not Santos is pretty good evidence that you are likely town. I just want you to actually participate. If you cannot do that, let us know. If not, your only real use is as lynch bait, and given this games nature, thats not even a very good use for you.orangepenguin wrote:I still don't like Krer ever since he voted me the first time around.
Oh yeah
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Double-post; this was supposed to be included in the last post but got truncated on notepad somehow.
393 looks like you [saber] are just trying to keep some suspicion on dj without explaining why. Could you summarize your case on Seraphim.
393 looks like you [saber] are just trying to keep some suspicion on dj without explaining why. Could you summarize your case on Seraphim.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
@Sabre - I also want to know why, if you are so suspicious of DJ, you are not voting for him. You were on his wagon before. If the same exact wagon that was on DJ before the DTF lynch formed, he would be lynched right now. You were on that wagon. What made you change your mind?
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-Most people are like slinkies. Not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down stairs.
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Bumping the vote count over to the next page. Artem's vote will be included in this one—my apologies.