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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:13 pm
by Midnight's Sorrow
Nws bill

Sorry too for my outburst... it was a little out there :lol:



Vote Count:

Chronopie: 5
(Glork, xRECKONERx, Fate, Midnight's Sorrow, bill1148)
dramonic: 4
(KDub, vezokpiraka
/gandalf5166
, Zazier, inHimshallbe)
quadz08: 2
(Devotress, Chronopie)
gandalf5166: 1
(dramonic)
xRECKONERx: 2
(PranaDevil, bv310)
Devotress: 1
(Nero Cain)
Fate: 1
(quadz08)
JPSalazar: 1
(Nautilius)


Not Voting:

JPSalazar

Lynch:

10 votes.

Deadline:

July 22nd - 8:00 PM EST

Re: Square Enix III: Stigmatic Opera (DAY 1)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:02 am
by Nero Cain
Devotress wrote:
Nero Cain wrote: That's a huge misrep. Never once did I say that information was bad. Nor did I say information should not be shared. I've played enough mafia, you read a player. Specifically scum, what they say is not always what they mean. You're saying "lets bandwagon folks for no other reason then to get a "response". :facepalm: IF that's the way we should play we should then we should go around today (day 1) and just bandwagon to see how each person reacts. But you're not doing that. What I get from you is that we start a NEW wagon each day. I'm sorry that doesn't exactly sound pro-town to me.
I do not believe I misrepresented you, I believe you are not understanding what the words you are saying translate to in other peoples heads.

Case In point:
Nero Cain wrote: That could get us no where. A scummer could say something so town like he's believed and a townie could say something scummy/freak out and we end up in a mis lynch. What are we gonna do, go around and bandwagon eveyone unlike we get a response you like?
Any info that helps the town also helps the scum.
[b/]
If anyone feels I "misrepped" Nerocain by saying this post said information was bad, vote me now.[/b]
This post (my bolding), says we should not build wagons for information, because any information wagons build, SCUM COULD ALSO USE.
Nerocain, I feel like you're responding to different words than what have been said by both of us.
Nope. I think my sentence says "Any info that helps the town also helps the scum". For example, a game I played dude soft claimed vig, so I killed him. Perhaps we are just arguing schematics here. You feel that bandwagoning is the best way to find scum and I feel
blindly/constantly
bandwagoning is not the most pro-town approach to scum hunting. And I'm not the only one that feels way; Glork 352.

Bolded part=ATE


While part of me DOES agree with you that yes it is possible to catch scum by putting pressure on them and then they react funny but MY problem with you is that you continue to bandwagon whenever a new wagon pops up. I know, I know...you'll say its for the responces but to me it seems a little bit like blending in. Your 323 is horrid sounding.

Someone else also agreed with me.

JP.
JPSalazar wrote:
Well, now that I'm caught up, I'd like to once again point out that Day 1 absolutely sucks and it's unusually rare to ever "get the pick" right as to who is scum.
I see where Nero is coming from with his logic in regards to Devotress
, but I honestly think she's trying to find a correct feel.

Reck is, well, annoying, and I know this from offsite, and it wouldn't surprise me to just be messing around with everyone.

Again, since it's only Day 1, anyone can be saying anything (and in some cases, have just been saying anything...refer to the incessant caps locks posts including the ones without spaces between the words for proof), but I don't like how Reck seemingly threw himself to save dramonic.

At the same time, I don't feel like bandwagon hopping. I'm not convinced to throw a vote in any direction.

While I'm abosolutly thrilled he does understand it sorta feels like distancing given that JP is barely around and the red part, yeah that feels so noob scum. The italics is avoiding being on a possible town lynch. I'm, also quite frustrated that he did not name his #1 pick, unless he ment Reck. So why is he not voting Reck?
JPSalazar wrote:I'm ridiculously lost, and will need a day or two to catch up on stuff.
Yeah, I've heard this before from scum.

unvote vote: Jp


BTW, he's the only one not voting.

Re: Square Enix III: Stigmatic Opera (DAY 1)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:36 am
by Devotress
Nero Cain wrote:While part of me DOES agree with you that yes it is possible to catch scum by putting pressure on them and then they react funny but MY problem with you is that you continue to bandwagon whenever a new wagon pops up.
This is factually untrue, and you need to go reread me again.


Quadz was the first wagon I pushed.

Joke vote for bill
Joke vote for reck (unless you think "he sounds like kefka" was a serious vote.)
Qaudz wagon.
I'm maybe the second person to vote for bill, when he does something rediculously scummy. Fact.
I switch back to quadz when he commits what I believe to be a scum tell.

Also nice of you to say my 323 is horrible without adressing the whole arguement I made about you misrepping me about that very post.


Nerocain If I hadn't played that newbie game with you where you were like this the whole time, I wouldn't know what to think about you.


So To summarize your arguement on me.
I'm hopping on every bandwagon, despite only being on one real wagon (quadz)
I'm scummy for asking prana alone a question, when it was deffinatly a question that specifically applied to him.
I'm scummy for being open to the idea of switching my vote off of quadz if town isn't going to lynch him.
I'm scummy for thinking the Quadz wagon and where it stopped should be analyzed if dramonic turned out to be town.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:37 am
by Devotress
Your jp vote is good posting though. wishywashy guy.

I still have my hopes up that people will see the light about quadz for now but deadline is looming.

Re:

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:42 am
by Devotress
Devotress wrote:Your jp vote is good posting though. wishywashy guy.

I ment jp when I said wishywashy guy.

Re: Square Enix III: Stigmatic Opera (DAY 1)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:43 am
by Devotress
Devotress wrote: I'm maybe the second person to vote for bill, when he does something rediculously scummy. Fact.
This should say I was the second person maybe to vote for BV. not bill.

Re: Square Enix III: Stigmatic Opera (DAY 1)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:56 am
by Nero Cain
Devotress wrote: Nerocain If I hadn't played that newbie game with you where you were like this the whole time, I wouldn't know what to think about you.
I so called out Rayfrost. :cool:

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:59 am
by Devotress
Oh yah man, you were completly right about ray I know.
It's just the way you went about attacking him made me sure you were the scum instead of him :(

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:52 am
by Glork
Bill: I believe I only went after Devo for singling Quadz out. If I implied otherwise, I don't think it was intended.

Devo: I was quoting and commenting on posts as I went along, so at the time I questioned your singling out Quadz, you hadn't given an explanation. That said, I still find it highly coincidental that you decided to analyze the only person who had a large, steam-powered wagon on him during the course of the day. Something does not resonate with your posts right now, and I'm trying to figure out what that is.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:17 am
by Kise
vezokpiraka replaces gandalf
Also, deadline is going to instead have to be tomorrow night at 11:30 PM EST.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:46 am
by xRECKONERx
ANYONE WHO IS NOT ON A WAGON BY TONIGHT IS IN SERIOUS SHIT
DEADLINE IS COMING. GET ON IT

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:09 am
by PranaDevil
Well, being as I find Reck and Dram equally scummy, and feel they may be in it together...

unvote; vote: Dram

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:09 am
by Chronopie
Unvote, Vote: Dram


Certain similarities between his play between SE I and this one...

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:09 am
by Chronopie
lol ninja'd by Prana.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:18 am
by Devotress
@Nerocain: So last Night I kind of assumed I had a longer reply incoming after you did some rereading or something, since you quoted the one non game relevant part of my post to respond too.

@Glork. I didn't coincidentally choose to get on the large wagon, I delibratly chose to pressure on the large early wagon to get a response, because what else can I do immediatly coming out of RVS. After Quadz gave a horrible response I thought "wagon successfull!" and kept pushing him.



Deadline is a little over 24 hours. Quad wagon is goners for some reason.
Dramonic I guess
unvote

vote dramonic

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:19 am
by Devotress
By last night I ment this morning.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:20 am
by xRECKONERx
Fuck that noise.

I DEMAND CHRONOPIE VOTES. NOW.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:27 am
by Chronopie
I CAN POST IN CAPS FOR NO REAL REASON TOO.

Point being, I choose not to.

Dram is the play for today. Screw your buttsex alliance. (But not really, I'm not into that kind of thing.)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:29 am
by xRECKONERx
Have fun lynching a townie and letting Chronoscum live, idiots.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:30 am
by Glork
i demand that both Chrono and Dram full claim. Now.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:31 am
by xRECKONERx
dram's AFK for the night IIRC

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:31 am
by Chronopie
Chrono doesn't see the need to fullclaim now.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:32 am
by Glork
Chronopie wrote:Chrono doesn't see the need to fullclaim now.
Because if Dram comes in Thursday and claims a role that we absolutely will not lynch, you will certainly be the lynch of the day.


Plus, I want to see what kind of crazy fakeclaim you have concocted for us.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:33 am
by bv310
Responding to prod. I've caught up what I'd missed, and I'd like to
Unvote, Vote: Chronopie

I feel like he is scummier than Dram so far.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:33 am
by Glork
Devo: What do you think of the early Quadz wagon, the people on it, and the response after the wagon hit its peak? If you did it to get reponses, I expect a shit-ton of analysis of said responses.