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the one time i thought i was being protown 3 people chastise me for being scummy
i really dont think i will ever fully understand this game

Unovte... pressure... revote

Yea, tell me that wishy washy voting is NOT scummy

from me it isn't
when i am scum i would have told benmage to go fuck himself
want proof?
i'll provide scumgames, towngames, anything.

So if others do it.. it would be scummy, but because its you... its not. Sure

OK provide us with games as town were you wishy washy vote including a unvote and revote due to pressure when someone is at L-1. And scum games were you tell someone to go fuck themselves when questioned upon your voting and threat of a vote going on you.

the latter i actually might be able to do

why not the former?

that is very, very, specific
ill try to find one

Jason wrote:Really? Votes for lying and Fake claiming are bad... noted.

So now that I challanged you on not giving a reason you decide top give one.

Very long Absence. Yeah I kinda know what that means. I, and just about every other person I've seen, also make a specific not when it's just an access thing. So yeah, you were Active Lurking.

Oh Jason btw. Benscum has not explained away the case against him. Benscum made a suggestion that can only benifit scum. "I took it back" does not explain it away. Hammering (figuratively) the person who prooved that the suggestion is scummy with "I took it back" is not explaining it away. Voting the person who prooved it scummy is not explaining it away.



Love the way that 2 of my top scum picks are ignoring my case on one of them though. "Play the man" is only a defense in football.

Furcolow wrote:that is very, very, specific
ill try to find one

Well, you did say it was your town meta and offered to back it up. I called you on it plain and simple.

Baby Spice wrote:

Jason wrote:Really? Votes for lying and Fake claiming are bad... noted.

So now that I challanged you on not giving a reason you decide top give one.

Very long Absence. Yeah I kinda know what that means. I, and just about every other person I've seen, also make a specific not when it's just an access thing. So yeah, you were Active Lurking.

1) V/LA does NOT mean Very long absence... it means Vacation or Limited Access.

2) I fail to see what you mean by the reasons comment.

jasonT1981 wrote:

Furcolow wrote:that is very, very, specific
ill try to find one

Well, you did say it was your town meta and offered to back it up. I called you on it plain and simple.

well, this game will be a good pointer for that instance from here on:)
you called me on shit, honestly
this is my town meta because i am town

and I am asking you to prove that.... thats not calling you on shit. TH=hats asking you to back up your town meta with exactly what you say it is

lynch me then
MISLYNCH me then*
i will martyr
i really dont care
i am the only scotsman that matters

So, you never answered me on this when I asked..

Why did you say earlier on town is better off without you?

Still posting from phone, so this will likely be very concise. Happy to elaborate on Saturday when I get home.

Hi to the replacements, thanks for joining us! And booo for three people replacing out on D1...

RC299 - his jason read seems genuine. I liked his call on Oso and on Benmage.
LL309 - goodposting re: jason.
Mina313 - Town is allowed five mislynches, not six.
RC321 - I like both the case and vote on Fur. The OMGUS afterwards was hilarious. Starting to think that RC just needed warming up, but still have eyes on him.
Fur325 - Why do you play mafia if you think the town is better off without you, even as town?
Fur328 - your read on RC is completely backwards. Scum would want to capitalise Dry-fit's mislynch potential if he's town to RC's scum imo, and your read on Dry-fit is changing a lot.
Benmage 336 - your misunderstanding of my case is wilful, and your misrepresentation constant. I think I'm going to rename you Sean Hannity. You began with "I didn't realise, I made a mistake", and after you got heat for it and I asked you about it, it became "I forgot". The forgetting itself isn't the issue, it's changing your story under pressure. Now you're going all out against me, but I'm not backing down. Calling my vote OMGUS is scumhunting by wiki, because you're describing my behaviour superficially and using buzzwords that don't apply.
BSpice343 - I voted Sotty because she appeared to be fanning the flames, "you two should fight harder" style. Also, I agree with jason that your "vote on town" should be considered as a legitimate slip. You ignored this in your latest post, also.

I don't think a Hannity lynch is going to happen today. Nowhere near sold on Dry-fit case. Baby Spice needs exploring, and that makes me think twice about my Hannity case. Right now the player who seems the most scummy is Furcolow, and if I'm wrong then I think we'll still be better for it.

sad
i guess i should replace out of the games in which i am town, then?
325: i was just voicing a popular opinion. my night actions are actually VERY good, even if my lynch-phase is weak.
I am very good in LyLo, actually, as town. Usually, at least, I can pick up on voting trends. I am not good D1. I am much better in larger games than games that are small (to me) like this one. I'm used to more like 30 players in a game, to be honest.

I am very, very active.

328: ok, so my read is changing? wouldn't that mean town?
i don't know anyones alignment but my own
i thought you were town, as of your post with that .gif, but i don't know anymore. i'm not going to OMGUS you or anything, but I feel the vote on me is very misplaced, and you just don't want to be on dry-fit's wagon for some reason or another.

@Furc, this is a smallish game with no night phase. There is only so much I am willing to let slide on "I am not good at this gamek. Antitown and scummy are not the same thing, but my scumread of you is bigger than my scumread of Dry-fit, and your reads change so much that your activity is a hindrance rather than a boon to the town.

Why should Dry-fit be lynched? Last I read, your vote was for self preservation only.

Fur 335 wrote:italicized: he's not SATISFIED with dry-fit... on his scumteam?
underlined: him not crying... over a player lynched? why would he want to cry at all? i dont get the thought process of even having to say that.

They're turns of phrases. Obviously they aren't meant to be taken literally.

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Furcolow is absolutely all over the place. Not just in the above post, but throughout this entire game. He's on full panic mode now and letting every emotion go that he can. He's a complete loose cannon. If you haven't paid as much attention to his posts throughout this game, you owe it to yourself to check him out in isolation. If he's town, he's too weak-willed and emotional. Every time I've looked the other way when someone has tried to appease everyone he could, I've regretted it. In general I've found that scum are more likely to placate in a manner similar to Fur.

We don't need several days to use our second lynch. Three or four should suffice. The mafia will get one kill regardless. I'd rather use one lynch properly then have posts like IAI just made where he said that he thinks Dry-fit is town but he's content lynching a town read just for the opportunity to use the second lynch (this was a big red flag to me, by the way).

Percy wrote:@Furc, this is a smallish game with no night phase. There is only so much I am willing to let slide on "I am not good at this gamek. Antitown and scummy are not the same thing, but my scumread of you is bigger than my scumread of Dry-fit, and your reads change so much that your activity is a hindrance rather than a boon to the town.

Why should Dry-fit be lynched? Last I read, your vote was for self preservation only.

he should be lynched because I have no idea as of his alignment.

Percy 195 wrote:

Scumreads

RedCoyote
Sotty7
Dry-fit
imkingdavid

Percy, what changed (referring to your Dry-fit read) since this?

i am really having trouble getting into this game
i am considering being replaced, though i don't believe i will
this is the most i've ever been uninterested as town, though. i don't really feel like scumhunting for some reason in this game. 3 scum aren't good odds. i'd rather check wagon analysis and buddying from a d2 or d3 perspective in order to catch people than trying to throw dirt around right now. Any wagon in this game is going to be primarily town, so I don't mind riding them. Are you disputing that, RC?

RedCoyote wrote:Furcolow is absolutely all over the place. Not just in the above post, but throughout this entire game. He's on full panic mode now and letting every emotion go that he can. He's a complete loose cannon. If you haven't paid as much attention to his posts throughout this game, you owe it to yourself to check him out in isolation. If he's town, he's too weak-willed and emotional. Every time I've looked the other way when someone has tried to appease everyone he could, I've regretted it. In general I've found that scum are more likely to placate in a manner similar to Fur.

Agreed, hence why I still pushed this wagon over dry fits. But a week from the D1 deadline, we need to act NOW.

Personally anyone not on one of these wagons needs to be looked over. Every other vote is just stalling this process IMO.

RedCoyote wrote:We don't need several days to use our second lynch. Three or four should suffice.

Three or four days? With 15 people left. No, it leaves scum the chance to lay low days one and two and then just hop on when we are in full panic mode as we approach the deadline. More is better folks. LET'S LYNCH TODAY.

RedCoyote wrote:The mafia will get one kill regardless. I'd rather use one lynch properly then have posts like IAI just made where he said that he thinks Dry-fit is town but he's content lynching a town read just for the opportunity to use the second lynch (this was a big red flag to me, by the way).

Content on a dry fit lynch? I waited until the 13th real life day of DAY 1 to move my vote to someone I have gotten a town read on. He was at L-2, and I was on the second biggest wagon that had a whopping THREE votes!

If both are town and I was scum, why take some a strong pro-town stance on Dry Fit in the 1st place. . Wouldn't that make more sense.

Truth be told, Oso has been the biggest scum read for me this game. His lack of taking a stance fits a 13-3 mountainous setup perfectly, since 6 or 7 mislynches are going to be needed.

Everything I do, I do for a reason. This is twice now I said let's go with this lynch, but if it flips town, look at Oso.

First time was with myself. And the wagon disappeared quickly. Not only that, but a few shady characters suggested trying something different or looking at somebody else.

Second time was more recently. I said if Dry Fit goes, look at Oso who HAS ONLY ONE REAL SCUM READ, that being Dry Fit. Lo and behold, Furc moves his vote (townie playing like a newbie or scum falling for my trick?)

Furcolow wrote:he's not my partner
i have no idea as of his alignment
i just dont want to mislynch

vote: dry-fit

Whats changed in the above, to the below?

Furcolow wrote:

Percy wrote:
Why should Dry-fit be lynched? Last I read, your vote was for self preservation only.

he should be lynched because I have no idea as of his alignment.

Furcolow wrote:i am really having trouble getting into this game
i am considering being replaced, though i don't believe i will
this is the most i've ever been uninterested as town, though. i don't really feel like scumhunting for some reason in this game. 3 scum aren't good odds. i'd rather check wagon analysis and buddying from a d2 or d3 perspective in order to catch people than trying to throw dirt around right now. Any wagon in this game is going to be primarily town, so I don't mind riding them. Are you disputing that, RC?

Whats happened? not getting into the game? you made 63 posts... and were quite hell bent and well into the game on my 'scumslip' and making accusations my V/LA was cute and not believeable... all of a sudden your under pressure you cant get into the game?

Cute.. I dont believe this for one second

Havingfitz replaces Oso.

first off, i respect percy a lot, so having him insult me here is something i want to back away from.
secondly, i want the town to win, so if i'm going to be mislynched i would rather have someone help this player slot if i can't
third, i don't understand the pointless wagon on me whatsoever. my voting/omgus is town from me. prove me wrong if you want.