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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:14 am
by numberQ
I gave no reasons why? Take a look at my 332 for reasons why my Chrono read changed. Since your response to me saying "oh you were doing a chainsaw defense" you've been looking okay. And Hiraki, the only other read change I mentioned, was explained in that post. Stop trying to make it seem like I'm flipping around with no reasons when I've got plenty of reasons.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:08 pm
by Umbrage
(expired on 2011-10-07 21:00:00)


If God had wanted you to live he would not have created me!


RedPanda (2) - Hiraki, Oversoul
Oversoul (1) - Bub Bidderskins
Robocopter87 (0)
pinkfloyd (1) - Alabaska J
DemonHybrid (0)
Captain Corporal (2) - DeltaWave, DemonHybrid
Bub Bidderskins (1) - RedPanda
Alabaska J (0)
Hiraki (0)
numberQ (0)

Not Voting: Captain Corporal, Robocopter87, numberQ.

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:02 pm
by RedPanda
5 more days left. We going for a nolynch is not in town's best interests. we better start picking up the pace.

@hiraki post your case today or get lynched. seems like you keep postponing your case even after the deadlines nearing.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:19 am
by Bub Bidderskins
I still think Oversoul is the best bet, but I would also be willing to vote for Red Panda.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:32 am
by Alabaska J
okay so after reading an iso of RedPanda, i have a null-town read on him. not much content (we are all guilty of that though) and the big thing that happened to him was the hiraki vote (which hiraki seems to be realllllllly holding on to for some reason). i don't think he was in the right necessarily to vote hiraki for that reason but because of how it occurred (it seemed like a gut reaction to a possible inconsistency in pms) seems pro-town in my eyes. i'd like to see what hiraki has because while he's low on content RedPanda just doesn't have enough scuminess to go after like he is. time for a look at hiraki…

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:34 am
by Alabaska J
dammit ok robo are you in this game or not i'm so confused

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:34 am
by Alabaska J
nvm you are

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:37 am
by Alabaska J
also a quick aside as to why my vote is still on pinkfloyd (aka chronopie)

why does no one think that fakeclaims may be available to mafia to prevent this kind of thing from happening and breaking the game? fakeclaims are fairly common and CAN be flavorfully important players. i was mario game once and the mafia had a fakeclaim that was like mario or something (i dunno point is it was an important character that was given as a fakeclaim and worked well because of it) we shouldn't rule out pinkfloyd yet guys

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:18 pm
by Hiraki
I will have this up by tonight. I promise.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:33 pm
by Robocopter87
For real this time?

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:43 pm
by Hiraki
Robocopter87 wrote:For real this time?

I said a slight chance yesterday.

I'm just a little busy and annoyed that I was like done with it and I fucked up my tabs.

And I fucked them up on Firefox.

That's like next to impossible.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:47 pm
by Oversoul
I know that feeling. >_>

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:16 pm
by Hiraki
Originally, I had everything quoted.

Not in the mood.

Answers useless questions in Numero Uno.

ISO 2 is wrong because hiplop was obv. joking.

Let's be serious here now.

ISO 3. Red Panda realizes that there is an extreme emotion. Is strong for no RVS.

RedPanda wrote:after rereading this thread my gut tells me that numberq hiplop and haoala are our scum.
Okay. I'll quote this because this is important. Let's skip a few down.

RedPanda wrote:i said your misunderstanding of it was weak , not that it was scummy(second time you misunderstood my post).


So, numberq isn't scummy?

You haven't given a legit reason why Numberq is scummy. Hiplop and Haoala are the small fry. I don't really care about them.

Well Haoala a little. We'll get to that later.

The only time that RedPanda ever mentions, or notes rather, Numberq is from a quote by Bub.

yeah, this is looking swell.

Haoala time.

First off, apparently there's bussing between him and hiplop. Can we get something out of the way? That's fucking assuming to the max.

Could it be true? Yes. Is it? No one knows but the scum.

So basically, this point is already moot. Even better is that ISO 5 just basically says that everyone that hiplop votes is scum.

This is good logic. Seriously, why would I ever be sarcastic or anything about mafia?

never.

ISO 6 just shows RedPanda being assumptive asshole. Make note that this doesn't make him scum, but just an asshole. So far, we have the numberq part showing scum signs.

Significant buddying to robo, as shown by the questions of Robo.

Which really were useless.

I don't really care about that either though.

You have to actually read RedPanda's posts guys.

Let's see what he +1's.

k?

RedPanda wrote:Actually, before I go. I would like to say something.

@Hiplop: Sorry for yelling at you for your actions. But I do want you to know that your actions aren't helping. At all. You are a better player than this. I know this. Act like you are. I have nothing against you, didn't mean to offend you either. But it really is frustrating to play with someone who is unwilling to cooperate.

Thats all for now.

Oh, and hiplop is still scum.
Passive Agressiveness, on the other hand, is a scumtell to me.

He basically read the last line and agreed to it. Because he didn't yell at Hiplop.

That's scummy.

ISO 10 is stupid. Just because asking someone if it's a random vote is kind of making the point devoid.

Small tell that I don't necessarily go with, but he's caring about one small vote.

not really that big, not really that small either though.

ISO 13 still makes no sense.

Right and then we have ISO 11. Sorry for jumping back, but that was a big point in my last case.

but I kind of sway on it now. But I'll put it back now.

Doesn't say why, and doesn't ever e

Noticeably though, it adds another vote to Haoala.

Making on with 6 and the other 4, I believe.

and redpanda could be lying about the wincon.

That's all. I think.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:24 pm
by RedPanda
Your post = 50% misrep 50% false information. you could do better hiraki. please pay attention.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:03 pm
by RedPanda
hiraki wrote

So, numberq isn't scummy?

You haven't given a legit reason why Numberq is scummy. Hiplop and Haoala are the small fry. I don't really care about them.


No legit reason. it was my gut saying they were scum because of what i thought were repeated busses. i did mention that.

hiraki wrote

The only time that RedPanda ever mentions, or notes rather, Numberq is from a quote by Bub.

yeah, this is looking swell.


Your daft. I dont have a legit reason why hes scum so you want me to keep tunneling on him for no reason?

hiraki wrote

Haoala time.

First off, apparently there's bussing between him and hiplop. Can we get something out of the way? That's fucking assuming to the max.

Could it be true? Yes. Is it? No one knows but the scum.

So basically, this point is already moot. Even better is that ISO 5 just basically says that everyone that hiplop votes is scum.


I assumed yes. like your assuming im scum now because of my assumption. People already thought they were scum. i was merely pointing out that if one of them flip scum we should make note of the the bussing.

hiraki wrote

You have to actually read RedPanda's posts guys.

Let's see what he +1's.

k?


I didnt +1 that. you have to be really stupid to assume i did that. What i agreed with robo was http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p3430037. those were exactly the same reasons why i voted hiplop.

Robo wrote that which you quoted not me( i know you know that this is for the other people )

hiraki wrote

Passive Agressiveness, on the other hand, is a scumtell to me.

He basically read the last line and agreed to it. Because he didn't yell at Hiplop.

That's scummy.

Totally fail. i still cant believe that you would assume i agreed with that :o

Iso 10 wasnt stupid. your vote without a reason and out of nowhere was.

hiraki wrote

Small tell that I don't necessarily go with, but he's caring about one small vote.

not really that big, not really that small either though.

Really?
hiraki wrote

ISO 13 still makes no sense.


i get that you dont know the halflife reference. but when my town wincon is safety and you actually ask if safety as in dont die i had to assume you were scum. i still dont get why you dont understand simple posts and then you misrep me in everyother post.


hiraki wrote

Right and then we have ISO 11. Sorry for jumping back, but that was a big point in my last case.

but I kind of sway on it now. But I'll put it back now.

Doesn't say why, and doesn't ever e

Noticeably though, it adds another vote to Haoala.

Making on with 6 and the other 4, I believe.


Thanks This was also a big point in my case against you. First of all false information. Hiplop was at L-1 and haoala was a L-2. I dont understand what scum motivation i would have to unvote from one town and place another at L-1. Im sure you understood that and you purposely said 4 because your whole case would fall apart.

Oversoul asked me the same thing. read my post 369 check out when i raise that point haoala attacks me and then he goes on raise that same point on his attack against hiplop which is why i thought haoala was a safer bet than hiplop.

hiraki wrote

and redpanda could be lying about the wincon.

That's all. I think.


again totally fail. 5 people have confirmed that wincon. are you even reading this thread?

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:04 pm
by RedPanda
Bub Bidderskins wrote:I still think Oversoul is the best bet, but I would also be willing to vote for Red Panda.


your willing to vote for me bub with no case? i like where my vote is at.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:27 pm
by pinkfloyd
I had a good read and I feel that red panda should go.

Not liking oversoul.

Q seems legit.

Hiraki is sexy.

Robocopter should 420 and be buds with me.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:50 am
by Captain Corporal
Alright
>_<
I've disappeared from this game completely. Sorry =/ I keep meaning to post, but I always seem to forget.
I'll have a moderate wall up by tomorrow about everything that passed whilst I was away.
Moderate by my standards anyway.

Now I'm going to bed.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:17 am
by Bub Bidderskins
RedPanda wrote:
Bub Bidderskins wrote:I still think Oversoul is the best bet, but I would also be willing to vote for Red Panda.


your willing to vote for me bub with no case? i like where my vote is at.


If it's between you and no-lynch, then I would vote for you. Right now I would much prefer an Oversoul lynch. The reason that I would consider voting for you is due to your poor vote on the tail end of the haola wagon. It's not like I have no case on you, it's just that my case on Oversoul is much stronger.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:35 am
by Hiraki
RedPanda wrote:No legit reason. it was my gut saying they were scum because of what i thought were repeated busses. i did mention that.
K. But that's totally assumptive, so it's a shitty gut read. Which is usually a shitty scum gut read.

RedPanda wrote:Your daft. I dont have a legit reason why hes scum so you want me to keep tunneling on him for no reason?
You shouldn't have done it in the first place then...

RedPanda wrote:
I assumed yes. like your assuming im scum now because of my assumption. People already thought they were scum. i was merely pointing out that if one of them flip scum we should make note of the the bussing.
I have logic behind me. All you have is relations that
may
lead to something. I have more concrete. Am I assuming in some way? Yes, of course. Who has more force behind them? Me.

RedPanda wrote:I didnt +1 that. you have to be really stupid to assume i did that. What i agreed with robo was viewtopic.php?p=3430037#p3430037. those were exactly the same reasons why i voted hiplop.

Robo wrote that which you quoted not me( i know you know that this is for the other people )
Would've been useful if I knew.

I'm not allowed to assume, kthx.

RedPanda wrote:Totally fail. i still cant believe that you would assume i agreed with that
Then what did you agree with?

Because you can't agree with any part of that post but the last line.

You seriously can't.

RedPanda wrote:Iso 10 wasnt stupid. your vote without a reason and out of nowhere was.
I was
nowhere
on your scumlist. I make one random vote, and you vote me.

What does that tell me?

You have no clue who the scum actually is, and are just being opportunistic to the max.

RedPanda wrote:Really?
yeah.

RedPanda wrote:i get that you dont know the halflife reference. but when my town wincon is safety and you actually ask if safety as in dont die i had to assume you were scum. i still dont get why you dont understand simple posts and then you misrep me in everyother post.
I know exactly what it is. It's referring to the main plot of Episode 2.

You're not getting what I'm saying, so I'll move on.

RedPanda wrote:Hiplop was at L-1 and haoala was a L-2.


haoala (5) - DemonHybrid, numberQ, hiplop, xRECKONERx, Oversoul
hiplop (5) - RedPanda, Captain Corporal, Chronopie, Robocopter87, haoala

No one voted before you did, so that's a complete lie. GG.

RedPanda wrote:I dont understand what scum motivation i would have to unvote from one town and place another at L-1.
No clue! It's not like we all know that they're both town!

Oh wait.

We do.

RedPanda wrote:Im sure you understood that and you purposely said 4 because your whole case would fall apart.
And here's this fluff that RP puts in Oversoul's case.

That little push that I must've manipulated something, because I must be wrong.

no me gusta.

RedPanda wrote:again totally fail. 5 people have confirmed that wincon. are you even reading this thread?
Of course not.

Have you ever heard of this cool guy named Gallieo?

You know, he called the sun the center of the universe when everyone else was against him.

And he was right!

So, you know.

Your point is moot.

Funny how RedPanda skips some points.

This is policy now.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:04 am
by Robocopter87
Thats not actually why your wincon might be confirmed, RedPanda.

Galileo has nothing to do with this.

The thing is, anybody after me who voted Hiraki after I did isn't confirmed. I know it sounds selfcentered or something but I since I was the first, mine was the first legit reaction to it.

RedPanda
could
have just been copying me. As could the people after that.

I'm not saying RedPanda is lying about it. I'm just saying its definitely a possibility. RedPanda, saying you have the same wincon as Chrono does not clear you. Not one bit.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:07 am
by Hiraki
Somewhat.

You get the point.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:07 am
by Hiraki
EWBOP: Besides, he skipped parts of my case.

I'm pretty sure that's basically policy.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:37 pm
by Umbrage
MISSION ENDS IN THREE DAYS.

(expired on 2011-10-07 21:00:00)


The test is over. Come back.


RedPanda (2) - Hiraki, Oversoul
Oversoul (1) - Bub Bidderskins
Robocopter87 (0)
pinkfloyd (1) - Alabaska J
DemonHybrid (0)
Captain Corporal (2) - DeltaWave, DemonHybrid
Bub Bidderskins (1) - RedPanda
Alabaska J (0)
Hiraki (0)
numberQ (0)

Not Voting: Captain Corporal, Robocopter87, numberQ.

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:08 pm
by Alabaska J
Alabaska J wrote:also a quick aside as to why my vote is still on pinkfloyd (aka chronopie)

why does no one think that fakeclaims may be available to mafia to prevent this kind of thing from happening and breaking the game? fakeclaims are fairly common and CAN be flavorfully important players. i was mario game once and the mafia had a fakeclaim that was like mario or something (i dunno point is it was an important character that was given as a fakeclaim and worked well because of it) we shouldn't rule out pinkfloyd yet guys


ANY responses to this???