You don't reply to me when I vote or ask you to, and now you expect me to meet your demands?
You make me laugh.
You seem confused. I dont have a townread on you, I never have, some of your posting is less than stellar some borderline obvscum.
You were the one who voted me untill I met your demands when you called me town, I was showing the sheer pointlessness in what you were doing. There is no pressure when you say you have townread hence why there is no reaction. The fact you dont realise this shows you should not be reaction testing to begin with... or you are scum.
↑Chrimi wrote:
I have scumhunted, I've found you and you only seem to feed my suspicion.
If you find my test impartial, that makes my test bad, not me scum.
Scum motivation for impartial test; easy way to say ok x gains scumpoints for y. When x could never gain townpoints the test is rigged benefiting only scum. Ie you.
↑Chrimi wrote:
You seem to think doing anything makes anybody scum. Somebody gets replaced- must be scum. Somebody defended their town read- must be buddying scum. Everything is scum to you. Also, if you know kass is scum and you think there's a possibility I'm town who wants to keep him alive, then kill kass not me. Serious lack of logic.
You think everyones scum isn't that what you have been saying? oh right. Suits you then but not now so better drop that argument?
Also, I have town reads, I just dont flaunt them. I gained them by pressing certain people.
↑Chrimi wrote:
Also, you saying that me voting my town read makes no sense and I must be scum- though you're doing it yourself.
This should be now explained as wrong. I understand any misunderstanding caused. I never said you voting a townread makes no sense... It makes sense but only if you don't tell them they are a townread at which point your actions are pointless a bit like calling a pressure vote a pressure vote.
↑Chrimi wrote:
Also, the point to my 'omgus' post was because your post REEKS of omgus. He says he thinks you and somebody is scum- and you vote him right away. Perhaps they were on to you? And then, I call you out on it and I'm voting you and think you're scum- so you come up with some bullshit reasons that must make me scum.
Hes been calling me scum all game, this is an unfounded accusation. Your reaction to my Kass vote is actually laughable.
He clearly is just parroting what others are saying. This is why I had enough of him.
↑Chrimi wrote:
Oh, you make me laugh so hard. If he was my scumbuddy, I would never defend him, because that's an obvious tell.
Which is why I voted you. I worked this out. I worked out you as scum (maf or wolf) would want him alive as hes useless. There is still the chance you are buddies, but likelyhood is you are scum with an agenda to keep the useless people who are not members of your team alive.
↑Chrimi wrote:
Nom and Slandaar, I would like your cases on eachother. I prefer not one sentence, although that is effective, I want to see everything you've got.
Chrimi wants to escalate things between two people not members of his team thereby ensuring he and his friend(s) are safe.
↑Chrimi wrote:Now, can we find another trail to go down? This one is going nowhere and the amount of information is running out.
The cases are not made and so we get to this. Why must others start the trail? Why doesn't Chrimi? He wants to sit back and do nothing chirping in every now and then... seems like scum.
Chrimis ISO shows no proactiveness, he sits and responds/posts thoughts on things he doesn't engage in anything... hes scum.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:51 am
by Thomith
this is just an assumption but i believe by you "voting a town read" chrimi meant you voting kass, not sure though.
↑Chrimi wrote:
I did not know what to expect, and he didn't really react. A weak reaction at most, I'm pinning it as trying to evade or ignore it. Ergo, scum points.
I think you are town
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:25 pm
by Chrimi
Mindset that everybody is scum, I'm not flailing everywhere and calling everyone I can scum and voting in scatters. I've had one vote in the whole game so far.
The whole impartial test thing- in almost all ways you react it would actually be a town read for me. However, you not replying is an obvious scumtell.
If you're going to call some of my posts borderline obv scum, at least tell me which ones.
Keep useless people alive?
Haha, no. If I was scum, I'd leave him to town to rip on so he'd get lynch- no point in protecting him, I'm trying to get MORE lynched not less.
Had enough of me?
Parroting? Show where I have parroted please. Stop saying bullshit without saying where, it gets confusing.
You haven't pressed anybody with your scatter votes, so please don't go there.
I have very good reasons to believe you are scum, and I've stated them before. Don't call it unfounded until you read my other posts where I have explained why.
Also, above post- you said you think I am town in the same post you voted me. Sounds like you did exactly what I did.
I'm trying to start a new trail by SAYING we should start a new trail. I'm not going to go down the trail myself- I'm asking everybody to go down a new trail with me. I engage, just not with scatter votes and contractions.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:46 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
Alright this game looks like a mess. Im going to start reading up now.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:22 pm
by drmyshotgun
@Mod: Request to prod LBJ
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:20 pm
by vijay2vasandani
Hmmm. Hasn't even mentioned my vote. Reaction test fail. X.X
Anyway I played NY142 with Slandaar and as soon as he got wagoned he pretty much rage quit and then gave up. He was a VT. I wanted to see if he did that, then he would have been town. If he did something else, he would have been scum. But by ignoring it I don't really get that good a result. I'm going to write that off as gaining a little scumpoints for ignoring the vote, especially when everybody else (well Thomith and Asher) were mentioning it.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:23 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
Well here's the recap thats lovely. I see dry was already trying to get more activivty in the first page since only 7 people were posting...
And I didn't even think about that. I just saw who do you want to be scum with and I assumed mafia. Your argument is partially right in that my mindset is that only mafia exists as a scumteam, but that's because I've only ever played one game with multiple scum teams and they were both differently named mafia. I've never seen Werewolves before.
Also I don't get the connection with the "he only thinks of mafia as being the only scumteam" to "he must be in the mafia". I don't see a logical thought process there.
This post makes no sense to me at all.
47 posts in. Slandarr is calling everyone scum, aside VJ. (Nothing to see here)
Slandar has a nice point You call him pessmistic scum but you don't vote on him instead you leave it on Kondi. Do you feel kondi was stronger here still although scum was already saying 'OH HI IM HERE LYNCH ME'
#70 Asher has no idea whats going on in this thread /facepalm
Kondi & Slandarr going after each other. This is nice.
VJ 81 & Kondi 82 He's got a point. Kondi that is. How would you not know where is a WW faction unless you were apart of the mafia and knowing there are 3 members because you are one of the 3.
I already prodded him 12 hours ago. I was waiting for a new page to put the updated vote count along with the prod notice. I just forgot to post the latter part
EDIT: I also just prodded kondi.
LBJ has 24 hours to post and kondi has 36.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:00 pm
by Chrimi
Slandaar tries to end RQS, my favorite part.
People trying to call scum based off of RQS. My other favorite part.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:58 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
Hey Look new blood. Tomith joined the game.
Notable things: Asher & LBJ have scum points from Tomith
& Everyones scummy in one way or another.
Except Kass who has more scummy points then the rest.
I see an LBJ Post and I think he's bussing idanny already but I could be a bit crazy since they both have little to not posts in the game so far. 8 pages in...Semi disappointing
↑Om of the Nom wrote:Kass is town. He's playing to his useless town meta I remember from Open 376 (except he was also Mason there but w/e).
1 Shotgun is town.
2 v2v is town.
3 Chrimi is town.
4 LBJ is probably newb-town.
5 Thomith is town.
So everyone not listed here is scum. Grats Om YOUR A GENUIS!!!
8 pages down. If you don't like this meh I don't care.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:36 pm
by Chrimi
Hah, I have one vote this game, he's throwing around his vote like a baby.
Elmo, next time post after you're done reading all of it- I've already answered everything you have about me here.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:42 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
First half of page 9 is a bunch of fluff imo.
I take that back. The whole page pretty much is fluff about meta and not explaining gut reads.
↑vijay2vasandani wrote:Ugh what is this? OOTN sounds like a cornered townie imo. Slandaar's pressure is good, but it's coming close to confirmation bias imo. I played with him before and the meta is fairly similar, which is null, but gut gives me a slight town read.
So this whole 1 1/2 page arguement was a town/town arguement
Om I blame you for this shitstorm thats happened in these page 2 pages.
↑Chrimi wrote:Also, Slandaar is either scum, wolf, or is town that is playing very anti-town.Calling every player he runs into scum and voting in scattershots is terrible, gets no data and only adds to the confusion. Wait, adds to the confusion- isn't that part of scum's objective?
Well at least your vote is on him since you think this.
#281 - #282 He's right you can't clear someone 100% in this setup. And Chimi believes everyone is scum still. Yet he hasn't moved his vote.
Im lazxy and not quoting. So what I noticed is and if Im right Slandarr always vote hops? I've played a couple with him but I am asking someone else for this meta so I know its across everything not just him as town.
om wrote:Agreeing with someone a couple of times is fine,
thats not what you kept saying. On the same note i could say chrimi is buddying up to you, because he is doing the same thing about you than i about slandaar.
He's also buddied to Slan as well and did it a lot in the early game.
↑Thomith wrote:asher, when you talk about kass in the spoiler tag you say "hello wolfie wolfie" infering her being a werewolf, when we have two scumgroups in the game, what made you assume werewolf?
Its obvious. Hes mafia.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:42 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
Done now. But your buddying of Slandarr earlier was just bad imo. Its like your wanting to buddy who ever you can. Granted Slandarr has done nothing to help himself this game at least from what I've seen.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:49 pm
by Kassadin
So, can we lynch Slandaar now?
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:54 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
VOTE: Slandaar Thats L-1 Btw
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:27 pm
by Thomith
the thing that i have a problem with the slandaar wagon is that i have a gut scum read (kass) and another very scummy person to me (om) on the wagon, also that one of the main reasons is that slandaar is vote hopping when that is not even a scumtell if most or all of the votes have reasons.
↑Om of the Nom wrote:Kass is town. He's playing to his useless town meta I remember from Open 376 (except he was also Mason there but w/e).
1 Shotgun is town.
2 v2v is town.
3 Chrimi is town.
4 LBJ is probably newb-town.
5 Thomith is town.
So everyone not listed here is scum. Grats Om YOUR A GENUIS!!!
Cool, did you read the rest of the post?
Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
Om I blame you for this shitstorm thats happened in these page 2 pages.
Why are you blaming me? And does it make me scum?
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:58 pm
by Thomith
why does it matter if he is blaming you, and if doesn't say it makes you scum why do you need to ask?
Paranoia?
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:00 pm
by Om of the Nom
I personally don't like shit being dumped on me and being blamed for it. Also he never specified his read on me.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:08 pm
by Thomith
Why are you assuming the read is mafia then? Also i doubt that "shit being dumped on you" would have much to do with any read.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:11 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
Yes I read the rest. And its why I'm blaming you for the 2 pages of shit. Of your gut read. Truthfully null-leaning scum.
Chimi is higher on the list though.
And really I'm only blaming you for what your gut reads started.
Om I still like you and the avy you made for me
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:21 pm
by Om of the Nom
↑Thomith wrote:Why are you assuming the read is mafia then?
Because I'm sure that that isn't something you'd say about a town read.
