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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:38 pm
by Espeonage
↑ BK201 wrote:-Espe claims VT on page 1 or 2.
As a goon doing it, it kind of gives an excuse to not be the NK.
As town doing it, it makes it easier to kill PRs, which is anti-town. First game with Espe but he seems to smart to be anti-town like that.
Plus he is being a magician with his reads.
Is that last line sarcasm, a theory that is waiting to be tested or actually what you think?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:40 pm
by Espeonage
I'll have you know I am Head od Slytherin at my University and the best Chaser for the uni's Quidditch team. Sadly our team sucks, currently none of us are going to the Olympics for the exhibition matches. :sadface:
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:43 pm
by Psyche
>.>
Espe's sense of humor...
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:56 pm
by sword_of_omens
@phil, this seems like a total 180 from my last game with you...Its almost like you're affraid to call anyone scummy...i remember when you thought you caught me in a slip...and you were like "in your face!!!
you seem overly cautious this game and its starting to worry me...
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:57 pm
by Espeonage
↑ Psyche wrote:>.>
Espe's sense of humor...
That was all the truth.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:00 pm
by Espeonage
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:01 pm
by Phillammon
↑ sword_of_omens wrote:@phil, this seems like a total 180 from my last game with you...Its almost like you're affraid to call anyone scummy...i remember when you thought you caught me in a slip...and you were like "in your face!!!
you seem overly cautious this game and its starting to worry me...
If you're referring to paranoia, then I actually had something to work from there. My day 1 hunting, I just report what I see. The problem I have here is not not wanting to call anyone scummy, but no-one looking scummy to me.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:02 pm
by Espeonage
↑ sword_of_omens wrote:@phil, this seems like a total 180 from my last game with you...Its almost like you're affraid to call anyone scummy...i remember when you thought you caught me in a slip...and you were like "in your face!!!
you seem overly cautious this game and its starting to worry me...
This post has been noted for later reference.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:25 pm
by sword_of_omens
@phil ,
Thats the thing...you were actively scum hunting in that game...asking a lot of questions and making good discussion,
here, you have been more or less hanging out on the sidelines...
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:28 pm
by Phillammon
I promise to be more active from here on in. Exams and similar were eating a lot of my time up until now.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:29 pm
by Espeonage
This isn't an issue for this point in the game. We need to get a lynch, move on to this day 2.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:30 pm
by Espeonage
Also I'd very much like to use quarantine on sword. And just to reach a lynch. I don't want to lynch defender but I will change my vote if we need it come the end of the day. Just so everyone knows where I stand on everything.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:34 pm
by Phillammon
Agreed. With this little left, timewise, we should just agree a quarantine and lynch in general.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:47 pm
by TheTrollie
I'm still for a defender lynch! and no one has argued against my case for an espe quarantine
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:53 pm
by Espeonage
↑ TheTrollie wrote:I'm still for a defender lynch! and no one has argued against my case for an espe quarantine
There's no point to quarantine me UNLESS you want to potentially save me from a NK.
If I'm town, I'm a VT.
If I'm scum, there would be others that can kill instead of me unless there is a hidden mechanic which would be bastard and this game isn't advertised as bastard unless I missed it.
If you're going to make the scum PR argument then it's moot because the same goes for everyone in the game.
So lets do something useful and keep sword alive.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:34 am
by Ser Arthur Dayne
↑ Espeonage wrote:So lets do something useful and keep sword alive.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:18 am
by guille2015
↑ sword_of_omens wrote:@phil, please explain in detail your BK read for me...what questions did you want answered and what good discussion?
@guille
guille wrote:Besides, something Nab said that I did not consider before, is that the Role of the VT is to pull the kills away from the PRs. It is dumb to jail the best town read.
So what you're saying is you didnt bother to read my post #211 about VT's then?
I'm on my phone so I can't properly quote it, but it's there in the first paragraph...
That is correct. You where the first to mention it. I apologize. I recall reading your argument and agreeing with it. I gave Nab credit because he was the most recent in my head.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:34 am
by guille2015
↑ Espeonage wrote: ↑ TheTrollie wrote:I'm still for a defender lynch! and no one has argued against my case for an espe quarantine
There's no point to quarantine me UNLESS you want to potentially save me from a NK.
If I'm town, I'm a VT.
If I'm scum, there would be others that can kill instead of me unless there is a hidden mechanic which would be bastard and this game isn't advertised as bastard unless I missed it.
If you're going to make the scum PR argument then it's moot because the same goes for everyone in the game.
So lets do something useful and keep sword alive.
What's so important about Sword? What's so different in him from you? If we save him, what then?
I Admit that I am stubborn as hell. But I do change my mind given good arguments and logic. I still don't understand why you want to protect Vanilla Towns? The is absolutely no benefit in jailing Town. If Sword was a High target for Mafia, which I don't know how you get to that conclusion, they'll just kill him night 2.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:53 am
by NabakovNabakov
So nobody else is up to vote Shotgun? Really? Nobody? I thought I made a damn good case for D1. Scummy play can always be confused for poor play (and vice versa), but I've been pretty thorough in laying out why exactly Shotgun is playing like scum and not just like a lazy idiot. I mean, if people are willing to give Shotgun the benefit of the doubt on this one, why not Defender or Mala? At least they have strong cases for their own inexperience. Shotgun is just asking us to trust that he chose this particular game to play like crap.
In fact, nobody has even changed their vote since I did 3 pages/days ago. Phil, Sword, and Psyche in particular: not voting at deadline is unacceptable. The fact that
nothing
is happening this close to deadline tips me off to some major shenanigans, probably related to the fact that Defender is currently frozen at 5 votes, but I need some more time to think it through.
At this point, I'd be willing to vote the Defender wagon just to get a result, but my feeling is that it's a total VI coinflip.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:56 am
by Phillammon
As I said, I will go with the wagon that results in an actual lynch. A this point, that means
VOTE: Defender,
Quarantine: Espeonage
. Let's do something before the deadline.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:57 am
by Espeonage
LMAO
Have you ever heard of compromise lynching. You may be smart but you're a tad naive. Mafia is a game of momentum, You can't just summon it up.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:57 am
by Espeonage
ebwop: That was at Nab
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:07 am
by guille2015
I will be available close to deadline, worst case scenario, we'd have to vote for the highest candidate just to Lynch some one.
Defender has been of very little help. So it wont be a big loss.
Let me give Shotgun a reread.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:14 am
by Phillammon
Defender's at L-1, by the way. He can claim if he likes, but at this point it's pretty much a compromise.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:20 am
by Espeonage
Phill, you're hilarious.