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@yates, pere also didn't like my vote on Thor. Not the best reason to vote someone, but a reason nonetheless.

I'm gonna catch up when I get home from work since I have a few hours to spare.

↑ Slandaar wrote:

↑ Agent_Ireland wrote:
Through the entire game, psyche has been vote hopping.

↑ Agent_Ireland wrote:
Most townies have only one ability, their own vote. Why not use it?

Ireland thinks town should use their votes
Psyche was vote hopping (ie using his vote) Psyche is scummy for vote hopping

Its a Contradiction.

The whole posts a waffly mess but this highlights Ireland just wants on the Psyche wagon and really doesn't care about the reasoning.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Agent_Ireland

guess i didn't word that the best way no did I? what I was trying to get at, and failed pretty badly at, was that why would psyche just stop voting all of a sudden to no great reason?

For the record, *I* got reads out of the Thor/Acosmist show, I sort of think others should have too, but...eh, not everyone can be as sexy as me.

@iDanyBoy - specifically why is the AI wagon the best (or, maybe why are all the others terrible - however you need to parse it to answer)

@Matt - I'm not sure the Psyche replace out is really alignment related (he could have been full of himself town who couldn't handle how bad he was gakking up too). Weren't you the one who had played with him before when he was town? Did he get pressured in that game for his playstyle and how did he react in it?

↑ Agent_Ireland wrote:Personally, I believe if someone had a silly argument, why unvote?

And you said as much pretty clearly methinks.

I predict town AI and scum push via misrep. Who was this wagon, Aco the scum and iDany the lurksack? Yeah, I like my odds.

↑ Thor665 wrote:
@Matt - I'm not sure the Psyche replace out is really alignment related (he could have been full of himself town who couldn't handle how bad he was gakking up too). Weren't you the one who had played with him before when he was town? Did he get pressured in that game for his playstyle and how did he react in it?

He was a confirmed PR so I didn't really focus on his playstyle. I was scum, and lylo was me, him and a third player and he mislynched for a scum win. I therefore wasn't really scumhunting him in any way.

↑ Thor665 wrote:

↑ Agent_Ireland wrote:Personally, I believe if someone had a silly argument, why unvote?

And you said as much pretty clearly methinks.

I predict town AI and scum push via misrep. Who was this wagon, Aco the scum and iDany the lurksack? Yeah, I like my odds.

????????????

You're right, it was Slandaar, not you. You can crawl back in your scum hole and cower for a while, it's okay.

↑ Thor665 wrote:You're right, it was Slandaar, not you. You can crawl back in your scum hole and cower for a while, it's okay.

It's funny when your pride is wounded.

Also, why would you WANT me in my "scum hole"? How about voting me oh right we're never doing that.

You've already asked that and I've already answered it so it seems you should either have a new attack on my answer or at least develop an alternate angle of attack to get past the explanation. Your repetition of wuss attack instead of defense or discussion is further proof of how you're scum.

Not much to read from when I last posted.
Thor - Acos was a fun read, but all I saw was Thor dancing logic circles around and increasingly scummy Acos
Yates - Acos was less fun, mostly talked about post times and other useless things.

AI was sort of taken out of context for the case against him, but his defense was pretty lazy. Still watching him.

I think I'll stick with my Matt vote.

Welcome Snifit!

@Johnny - you say lazy defense like it's a bad thing, why is that?

↑ Thor665 wrote:@Johnny - you say lazy defense like it's a bad thing, why is that?

Because that defense teaches us nothing. He easily could have gone on the offensive and talked about how he was taken out of context, but no. He plays the defeatist and apologizes to us. Nulltell is boring is bad.

Hi ho.

I've been following along casually, since I was a little cheesed that my sign-up came just a little bit too late. :p

1. JohnnyFarrar
Didn't have a read on him prior to replacing in. He coasted for a while, but #284 is pretty solidly townie. As a bonus, I agree with a good number of his reads. Town.
2. Thor665
What can I say? It's Thor. I had a scum read on him earlier by association with MattP, but on reflection realized that's a terrible reason to have a scumread. Not a strong townread, but that's only because I'm sure he's fully capable of contributing to the game like he's been doing as scum as well.
3. Yates
I'm wary of him, since I've only seen him as scum and I don't think we would have caught him if not for a cop investigation. :/
His poking and prodding (#240, #329, etc.) seem to come from town.
4. PeregrineV
Null before I read his ISO. Null after I read it. Not really impressed by his attack of Johnny's use of "bus", but meh.
5. Benmage
Null? I have trouble following his posts.
6. MattP
Scum. #122 was awful. Speculating about how many scum on a wagon (much less a wagon that wasn't a lynch, much much less an RVS wagon) is nigh useless. Scum are constantly thinking about how many of them are on any given wagon. His reason for clearing Acosmist sounds fabricated--he's confident so he's town? Nah. #152 is a "case". Then he throws around buddy speculation based on who thought his "case" was shit.
7. Slandaar
Slight town, I think? #362 was good.
8. Acosmist
Scum, but mostly based on the tone of his early posts. Not very strong.
9. Agent_Ireland
Scum. Agree with Slandaar that #349 sounds rather forced.
10. BK201
Had a read, but I don't remember what it was. ISO: Town! His early exchange with Acosmist was townie, though I can't tell why he voted dicknose, or why he unvoted.
11. iDanyBoy
Null. Not enough there.
12. dicknose
Town. I like the pressure he puts on, and his tone seems to come from town.

since he's my strongest scumread.

Sleep now. Interaction later.

Yates: read on me?

I reread the thread and this is what I picked up.

Dicknose - I don't like his vote on Phsyche, someone trying out something new doesn't make them scum.

MattP - I don't like his first post. It's scummy that he put Acomist into L-1 without a reason. I don't like how he calls BK town and calls Phyche scum for disagreeing with him since I don't either. He says Dick is scum for saying it's not hard to fake knowledge but I thinks this makes him look more town, scum would be to scared to say it.

BK - I don't like how he changes his vote to Phsyce while he is still pushing Acosmist.

Thor - Why did you cal out Phsyche for having more town reads then scum but then a few post later you say 'Process of elimination' so you must of done the same thing no? I think he is the only one with good points on Physche unlike everyone else is voting him because he is trying out something new.

Yates - He calls out on Physche softclaim, I didn't see a softclaim but town would keep it to themself and hope scum wouldn't notice.

DickNose wrote:How do you feel about the Dicknose, MattP, and Dannyboy wagons?

I don't think Dicknose is very scummy, I don't like his vote but his Null.
I think MattP is scum.
I know I am town but Acosmist is right about my post being contentless. I was just skimming the thread and not posting propely but know that my final exam that was today is finished I have a lot more time to post here.

MattP wrote:Plus AI has done NOTHING scummy and I would like to know why idany thinks that's the first reasonable wagon of the game.

Thor wrote:@iDanyBoy - specifically why is the AI wagon the best (or, maybe why are all the others terrible - however you need to parse it to answer)

Same questions basically so I'll answer them together. The wagons with the most votes at that time were Jhonny and Psyche, I don't like people's reasoning for voting Psyche. The only one who has given a good reason is Thor the rest of the votes are because of his 'bad' play. Now that I reread the game I think MattP is a good wagon as well. As for Agent_Ireland I still think that post his is scummy even if you don't agree with me.

I thinks Thor is town and I think Psche is town with bad play. I think MattP is the scummiest and then Agent_Ireland. I have a feeling that Acosmist is scum with his argument with Thor. Thor brings up a good point but Acosmist doesn't respond properly and Thor proves Acosmist wrong but he just brushes it off.

UNVOTE: Agent_Ireland
VOTE: MattP

↑ Slandaar wrote:Yates: read on me?

I'm giving you enough rope to hang yourself. You've been off my radar, if that counts for anything?

↑ iDanyboy wrote:Yates - He calls out on Physche softclaim, I didn't see a softclaim but town would keep it to themself and hope scum wouldn't notice.

This made me laugh. Thanks for that. If you honestly think the best thing to do is to a softclaim didn't happen and to scum didn't see it, I'd be ok with a policy lynch on your slot because you will be completely useless going forward. We have a saying that goes something like this: hope in one hand and shit the other; see which one fills first.

This is a good entry post from snifit.

↑ snifit wrote:MattP
Scum. #122 was awful. Speculating about how many scum on a wagon (much less a wagon that wasn't a lynch, much much less an RVS wagon) is nigh useless. Scum are constantly thinking about how many of them are on any given wagon. His reason for clearing Acosmist sounds fabricated--he's confident so he's town? Nah. #152 is a "case". Then he throws around buddy speculation based on who thought his "case" was shit.

Vote: MattP

since he's my strongest scumread.

And this is a good first vote.

↑ snifit wrote:3. Yates
I'm wary of him, since I've only seen him as scum and I don't think we would have caught him if not for a cop investigation. :/

/smug Probably helped that you all had a strong Town read on HC. All I had to do was quietly slip into his shoes and keep the momentum going.

Yates why did you only do 'wagon analysis' for the dick wagon?

↑ Slandaar wrote:Yates why did you only do 'wagon analysis' for the dick wagon?

Because that was all that was needed? You guys are in it for crap reasons. I made that pretty clear. I'm not going to try too hard to demonstrate how your reasons are crap when they are crap and a simple summary will suffice to show you that I am acknowledging that we all know your reasons are crap. Crap.

You like the JF wagon?

↑ Slandaar wrote:You like the JF wagon?

???

↑ Yates wrote:

↑ iDanyboy wrote:The JF wagon I don't realy understand.

Agreed on JF, though. I'm not sure how that one got to 3 so fast with absolutely nothing to provoke it. Ben and Pere are voting JF because he doesn't "ride the bus" and BK is voting JF with the reason being "gut."