Newbie 1315: Van Helsing (Over)

[serrapaladin]

Yes, I'm well aware that the implication of my post was that SAD is scum. It was just something I noticed, so I pointed it out. If Bitmap were scum, he could have easily let the Declan/Godfather lynch go through for an easy mislynch. Instead, he actively defended him.

[kwll]

That would earn him town kred incase the lynch went through and save him for a later lynch if needed? WIFO from hell but I have done it in my games before. You win either way as scum.

with that in mind

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[Spawnisen]

That would earn him town kred incase the lynch went through and save him for a later lynch if needed? WIFO from hell but I have done it in my games before. You win either way as scum.

with that in mind

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I'll have to agree with kwll on this one. I think the fact that he defended GF makes it even more suspicious. The one who is mafia is the only ones who knows who is scum and who is not. That bandwagon on Godfather would be a good oppurtunity for a scum to get some town cred by defending Godfather. We all have to agree that that whole evilpire/declan situation was suspicious and I still think, even after we've seen the results, that we had good reasoning for going after Godfather.

Time to check some last posts by Bitmap.

[serrapaladin]

Funny, because the two of you are still my strongest scumreads. I'll wait for everyone to get back and then look at a few people more carefully.

I'm also still unsure about awestfie.

[Bitmap]

Yeah, you guys are retarded for lynching the Godfather. It was pretty obvious the guy had a Town PM since he town-told so hard. So this is the part where I start yelling at people.

First off, if you're not a cop, I shouldn't be confirmed innocent.

Secondly, SAD's play has been pretty disappointing. His play has been really bad imo for an IC level and he's been fence sitting. Hard. 371 and 373 should of actually contained content instead of trivial details that were pretty obvious to begin with. So, there are two things this could mean with an IC this silent. Unfortunately, I'm not going to spout it out now. However, if SAD continues to fence sit and not push accusations on other players, he should be lynched very soon.

Thirdly, I believe mp5 is town. His strong play and willing to not fence sit and scum hunt gives strong town vibes.

Fourthly, awestife doesn't look like he's coming back and seemed to have site flaked. I'll wait for a replacement and see how the replacement plays to give further judgement but I'm leaning null with like very very slight town read.

I'm kind of on the fence with Nekoko. I've played one game with him when he was scum and most of the time he was slinging mud and trying to post a lot. I'll re-evaluate Nekoko once I've set my foot down on this day.

I think spawnisen is noob town or noob scum. However, I'm going to say noob-town. He's definitely not afraid to attack strong players and his reads seem genuine. He posts with his foot set down and I really don't see him being scum at this point. If he reaches lylo, I'd reconsider him being scum maybe.

Serrapaladin is a very interesting case. Initially, he calls me scums but then calls me town after theGodfather flip. He definitely has a strong presence since Day 1. Hmm, I think I'm leaning town on this slot. If you want, I can further elaborate on this read but this is what I'm feeling atm.

I think kwll is null at this point.

[kwll]

I was helping install some stuff for a friend...but I am going to post a case on paladin...I dont like his actions with the flip and his interaction with me.

[kwll]

Paladine you all for the lynch. I believe you are fingure pointing right now and I feel like you are throwing shit on a wall to see what sticks.

I would like to see a valid case on me for accusing me of scum.

I read your post and you admitted to what your intention was. Why not vote?

I am wondering if your a newbie scum who got their wish but dont want to make waves.


Bitmap, the WIFO i used on you actually can be applied to SAD. The post when the bandwagon was going seemed very weak. He agreed enough to get the lynch going and keep up but left very weak reasoning on why he didnt. Not trying to use Burden of experenice but to agree and not vote for it...does not strike me as a town. Being correct on this lynch either means you truly believed the statement and viewed as a town tell(which is kinda weird because that slot was being fucked up), or you are scum. With everything going on I am inclined to believe you are town at this point.

[MP5]

Just checking in from my mobile, will have more time this evening after work. Will be going through everyones iso again because there's a lot of ground left uncovered from day one.

[serrapaladin]

Yeah, you guys are retarded for lynching the Godfather. It was pretty obvious the guy had a Town PM since he town-told so hard. So this is the part where I start yelling at people.

First off, if you're not a cop, I shouldn't be confirmed innocent.
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Serrapaladin is a very interesting case. Initially, he calls me scums but then calls me town after theGodfather flip. He definitely has a strong presence since Day 1. Hmm, I think I'm leaning town on this slot. If you want, I can further elaborate on this read but this is what I'm feeling atm.

Well, you were actually on the lynching wagon as it turns out, but the whole case was a bit messed up. I don't think anyone said you're confirmed town - SAD and I just put you down as townreads. I also never scumread you, I just disapproved of some of your arguments.

Paladine you all for the lynch. I believe you are fingure pointing right now and I feel like you are throwing shit on a wall to see what sticks.

I would like to see a valid case on me for accusing me of scum.

I read your post and you admitted to what your intention was. Why not vote?

I am wondering if your a newbie scum who got their wish but dont want to make waves.

kwll

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Do explain how I am finger pointing or throwing shit? I admit that I was wrong about the lynch, even though I did feel justified after Declan's actions. Why would I vote SAD on something as small as underlining a word? It stuck out to me, so I mentioned the possibility of it being a scumread, that's all. You implying I should have voted him based on it seems a bit off.

Please explain the congruence between your two allegations of me "not wanting to make waves" and "finger pointing and throwing shit on a wall."

Also, you disagree with my town read and FoS Bitmap in 376, but then state that you're inclined to believe he's town in 381. What's up with that?

As to my scumread of you:

Hmm, paladin, what is your current read of kwll?

His reads in 156 are weak, particularly that on awestfie. In 208 he admits to deliberately aggravating Spawnisen. Blatant contradiction in his read of Declan in 212, first he says no read, then concludes with having a scum feeling. His phrasing "I hope his [Declan's] replacement will do better" also somewhat irritates me. I do think a lot of this has to do with his 'stream of consciousness' style of posting, but my overall is slightly scummy. Nowhere near as much as Declan's slot and his inconsistent reads though. At this point I'd also still prefer a Spawnisen lynch to kwll, but only just.

I will, however, correct myself on one matter: you are more scummy than Spawnisen.

VOTE: kwll

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I think my biggest problem with kwll is I don't feel like he genuinely tries to narrow down the scumpool, rather always keeps his reads safe for him to change them slightly later and jump on different wagon/accuse people of being scum. It just feels like at any time he's ready to fling out at anyone for being scum, which can come from someone who already KNOWS who the town are and just wants to push mislynches.

[Bitmap]

I think my biggest problem with kwll is I don't feel like he genuinely tries to narrow down the scumpool, rather always keeps his reads safe for him to change them slightly later and jump on different wagon/accuse people of being scum. It just feels like at any time he's ready to fling out at anyone for being scum, which can come from someone who already KNOWS who the town are and just wants to push mislynches.

You do realize that's the same for you too right? You've been really doing nothing more than asking for reads and saying "So what do you think about that?" except for a few instances. It leaves me to believe 2 possible outcomes with you and both of us know what they are.

[Bitmap]

Alright listen up. I want everyone to post two players who are the most likely to be scum right after this post. People need to be putting their foot down.

[serrapaladin]

Mine will be kwll followed by Spawn. How about you go next?

[Bitmap]

Mine will be kwll followed by Spawn. How about you go next?

Sure thing darling.

kwll and SAD

[Bitmap]

Oh right,

VOTE: kwll

[Spawnisen]

kwll and MP5

I've been suspicious of kwll this whole game, but that he first FoS Bitmap and explains how it shows him being scummy, and then go on to say that you believe he is scum takes the cake

[Nekoko]

I'm quite busy these past days but I think kwll is more likely to be scum.

VOTE: kwll

superdeclan/evilpire/the Godfather distracted the town so kwll turned attention to Godfather's slot.
He completely stopped contributing at this point.
In fact anything that is not related to the Godfather is ignored.

kwll FOSed Bitmap (but not voted) in an attempt to misdirect
the town to those who didn't join the wagon he fully supported (only done).

Alright listen up. I want everyone to post two players who are the most likely to be scum right after this post. People need to be putting their foot down.

kwll and SAD

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

kwll and MP5

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Re-reading MP5 and kwll together is really really horrible. Like, if kwll is scum, he's very very most likely partnered with MP5.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

It leaves me to believe 2 possible outcomes with you and both of us know what they are.

Yes, I do. And if I happen to... fall down a stairs... or some thing during the game, I think you'll know what to do.

[Bitmap]

@Mod: Requesting straight up replacement for awestife.

[Untrod Tripod]

fuzzybutternut replaces awestfie

[fuzzybutternut]

Hey guys, I'll read up some tonight and more than likely post something after class tomorrow. Bunch of new faces here (to me at least).

[fuzzybutternut]

[quote="In post 13, Ser Arthur Dayne"]

1) What timezone are you in? And how many times, say, per week, can we expect you to post?
2) What made you decide to join Mafiascum?
3) What alignment do you, or do you think in the future, you'll prefer best? What role?
4) How do you react to people attacking you?
5) What do you think you'll be known for in this game?

I will, however, go ahead and answer this, since it takes little to no in depth reading.

1.) EST. I have tons of free time, so I will be posting a lot; however, keep in mind that I cannot post between the hours of 7 AM EST and 3:45 PM EST due to school.
2.) My cousin actually introduced me to the website, in hopes to get my signed up on the mafiascum minecraft server. Since then, I have played a few games and I now adore the game.
3.) This is a tricky question, because I feel like it could govern the flow of the game; however, I've had one scum game, but have had zero experience as a scum player (will explain in detail if you'd like). I've never been placed with a power role, so I don't feel I can answer this question honestly, for the sake of not knowing.
4.) Simply put, attack back. Never let anyone back you in a corner that you can't get out of.
5.)Erm...well...I replaced in, so...maybe that?

[fuzzybutternut]

aaaaaaaaand already messing up my quotes. Wonderful.