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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:09 pm
by Nachomamma8
i spotted me an empking
i wonder if he will bus...?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:09 pm
by Human Destroyer
↑ Human Destroyer wrote:Nacho, now I will ask you why you have a
vote
scumread on me
And don't give me some shitty "lol ill tell you later" shit, spill the beans
Also Empking is probably scum with PV and Rest so
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:10 pm
by Empking
Is there a case on TOWK? Also, is it he or SK who's scummiest?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:14 pm
by Sotty7
"It is an honour to see thee again.
I shall follow thine wishes."
Twelfth vote count of Day one
PeregrineV: 4 (Debonair Danny DiPietro, VP Baltar, Human Destroyer, TheOneWhoKnocks)
TheOneWhoKnocks: 4 (PeregrineV, Nachomamma8, leviathan93, Iecerint)
Human Destroyer: 2 (FourTrouble, RestFermata)
Iecerint: 1 (Empking)
Debonair Danny DiPietro: 1 (JasonT1981)
Not voting: 1 (chkflip)
With
13
players alive it takes
7
to lynch
DEADLINE:
(expired on 2013-03-07 21:00:00)
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:16 pm
by Nachomamma8
↑ Human Destroyer wrote: ↑ Human Destroyer wrote:Nacho, now I will ask you why you have a
vote
scumread on me
And don't give me some shitty "lol ill tell you later" shit, spill the beans
Also Empking is probably scum with PV and Rest so
so...?
↑ Empking wrote:Is there a case on TOWK? Also, is it he or SK who's scummiest?
there's a bit on TOWK that I just brought up
i will bring up more later, but it will be one of those medium-length cases that you dislike reading
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:18 pm
by Human Destroyer
The comment was unrelated to the quote
I still want you to respond
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:20 pm
by Nachomamma8
you said that like you had more to say
did you?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:22 pm
by Human Destroyer
Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it
So
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:23 pm
by Empking
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:there's a bit on TOWK that I just brought up
i will bring up more later, but it will be one of those medium-length cases that you dislike reading
Before 370 did you have suspicion of him? Because the thing you mention in 370 seems like a standalone scum tell so going from that to PBPAing him would be a work of confirmation bias.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:25 pm
by Nachomamma8
↑ Human Destroyer wrote:Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it
So
why do you think empking and pv are scum?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:25 pm
by Nachomamma8
↑ Empking wrote: ↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:there's a bit on TOWK that I just brought up
i will bring up more later, but it will be one of those medium-length cases that you dislike reading
Before 370 did you have suspicion of him? Because the thing you mention in 370 seems like a standalone scum tell so going from that to PBPAing him would be a work of confirmation bias.
my suspicion of hd and him shot up significantly with the fresh new townread on peregrine.
i had a leaning scumread on SK, then a leaning scumread of TOWK
now i'm fairly sure he's scum
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:26 pm
by Empking
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:30 pm
by Human Destroyer
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑ Human Destroyer wrote:Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it
So
why do you think empking and pv are scum?
Empking is too much bandwagoning, too little explanation; is super-questioning about the PV wagon but before that had no problem hopping between wagons
PV is scum for his strawman of the wagon's reasoning (especially of mine, since mine is not in the vote post, it's
here), and that VT claim is unconvincing IMO.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:32 pm
by Human Destroyer
↑ Human Destroyer wrote:is super-questioning about the PV wagon but before that had no problem hopping between wagons
^This is my associative tell between the two if I didn't make that clear; I suppose the TOWK questioning on Emp's part kinda throws it off a little, but IMO it looks like Emp's looking for a counterwagon opportunity.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:32 pm
by Empking
↑ Human Destroyer wrote: ↑ Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑ Human Destroyer wrote:Huh? No, sometimes I end posts with so for the hell of it
So
why do you think empking and pv are scum?
Empking is too much bandwagoning, too little explanation; is super-questioning about the PV wagon but before that had no problem hopping between wagons
I really hadn't been.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:34 pm
by Human Destroyer
First wagon jump
↑ Empking wrote:Unvote
Vote: lev
His wself-vote was a ploy; a ploy of the scum variety.
Second wagon jump
Third wagon jump
NOTABLY SKIPS PV WAGON
Empking wrote:Unvote, Vote: TOWK
Fourth wagon jump
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:35 pm
by Human Destroyer
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:35 pm
by Nachomamma8
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:37 pm
by Nachomamma8
↑ Human Destroyer wrote:PV is scum for his strawman of the wagon's reasoning (especially of mine, since mine is not in the vote post, it's here), and that VT claim is unconvincing IMO.
you don't think Peregrine missing that is reasonable?
you think that as scum, he thought that blatantly misrepping you was worth the risk of you noticing? why?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:38 pm
by Nachomamma8
and you really think that he's just avoiding voting all of his scumbuddies?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:41 pm
by Empking
Wasn't really a jump. It was my RVS.
↑ Empking wrote:Unvote
Vote: lev
His wself-vote was a ploy; a ploy of the scum variety.
Second wagon jump
Wasn't a wagon (if you don't count lev's vote (and you shouldn't).)
Really wasn't a wagon.
NOTABLY SKIPS PV WAGON
Empking wrote:Unvote, Vote: TOWK
Fourth wagon jump
What is your definition of a jump, because going from an orphan vote to an non-orphan vote doesn't seem to fit the definition of going from one wagon to another.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:42 pm
by Human Destroyer
^He doesn't get all questioning and hesitant about specific wagons in that ISO
P-Edit: I don't think it is reasonable, considering he asked me questions which he wanted specific responses to which were in that post. As town, he'd probably read that post and follow up on those responses, no?
The second one, yeah, if he wanted to undermine my opinion, would be a pretty viable thing to do.
P-P-Edit: I'm less certain of the Rest wagon avoidance tbh, he wasn't showing outright hesitance to join the wagon, he just kinda ignored it, whereas with PV he was
really
hesitant and looked more like he was looking for reasons to stay
off
the wagon than to get on it.
CAN YOU GUYS STOP POSTING SO I CAN KTHX
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:44 pm
by Human Destroyer
↑ FourTrouble wrote:Alright, Iecerint gets a pass for now.
Unvote, Vote: Leviathan
Iecerint did not mean how simple/complex your reasoning was... he's talking about the lack of effort behind your post or the taking of strong stances. If you can't even bother to look up what strawman means (Wikipedia serves this purpose quite well), it further confirms the point.
↑ leviathan93 wrote:then because y'all are so pointless and stupid in your reasoning cuz it doesn't MAKE me scummy.
UNVOTE: VOTE: leviathan
I did put effort into those reads. Its my opinion and what I read. also just because I don't know something doesn't make me scummy cuz i haven't looked it up. no effort, does not imply scumminess. even though you can't read the amount of effort i DID put in to it.
↑ Empking wrote:Unvote
Vote: lev
His wself-vote was a ploy; a ploy of the scum variety.
Empking, how is 4 votes (3 if you don't include levi's vote) not a wagon?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:46 pm
by Human Destroyer
Hmm...I suppose you could argue that Iec vote wasn't really a wagon jump
I don't know the meaning of orphan votes and non-orphan votes, explain that to me
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:46 pm
by Iecerint
↑ RestFermata wrote:That's the whole point of the flavor...that the town are the "enemies" in the video game while
the scum are the "heroes" of the game
. I think jason is town, though, based on the kinds of questions he was asking PV.
Bold added. These kind of upset my apple cart, especially the second one. Scum being the heroes is not obvious to me.
It's true that the OP can be read that way (now that I look back at it), but that's not the conclusion I came to upon skimming through it originally, certainly not as an obv thing, and my PM doesn't offer any clarification (even after looking back at it).
Am I missing somewhere else where this is made obvious, or what?