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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:39 pm
by RandomYoshi
GuyInFreezer, what is your opinion on Rememberance's play?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:39 pm
by Remembrance
Do you guys think he failed it? Usually if my life was on the line like that and I had voted and my scum read was on and had the ability to hammer me, I would panic. He had curiosity.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:42 pm
by RandomYoshi
For the record, I am incredibly curious as to why kurur0 is Town for reacting like he did when he was voted. It can make me take new stances on this game, and even actually contributing to the game a substantial amount.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:47 pm
by RandomYoshi
Because I don't know if it's me or something, but unless I've missed something then I really couldn't see anything new from his side when he was put on L-2/L-1.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:49 pm
by fuzzybutternut
It's sad that it takes so much to make you contribute to the game, Yoshi.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:52 pm
by RandomYoshi
I'm bad at Day 1. I don't have a flip to go after on Day 1. X_x
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:52 pm
by kuror0
Weeee i join the exams group. But i am lazy so i will probably post the same i always do. Anyways...
Varsoon wrote:Is this typically how noob games/games in general go?
I hate making reads when 1/3 to 1/2 of the players aren't even playing the game. It feels like I'm taking a test but I don't even get to see half of the questions.
Yeah, most newbie games have lots of replacements the first day a few in some cases for day two but then it goes smoothly. And for me it is when the fun part really begins.
Varsoon wrote:
One of my biggest worries isn't even being mislynched. It's knowing that if I play strongly enough or discover scum and hunt them, I might be killed at night. Scum gets to just decide who can't play anymore.
If you are town you shouldn't worry about being mislynched or NK'ed. You win with town no matter if you are alive or not. If you get NK'ed in most cases is because scum thinks of you as a threat so you should feel good about it
. And even a mislynch can be very useful for town, if you are aware that scums are on your wagon then use your reads and your flip as a way to prove their guiltiness, and win the game from the grave!.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:54 pm
by fuzzybutternut
↑ RandomYoshi wrote:I'm bad at Day 1. I don't have a flip to go after on Day 1. X_x
Fair enough. Can't really blame you, just try more.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:54 pm
by kuror0
↑ RandomYoshi wrote:For the record, I am incredibly curious as to why kurur0 is Town for reacting like he did when he was voted. It can make me take new stances on this game, and even actually contributing to the game a substantial amount.
So you want the reasons to adopt them yourself and not to solidify a read on me?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:56 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Rem? He overreacts when somebody throws suspicion at him. Bit flip-floppy (or wishy-washy however people call it.)and vote parking.
I take his overreaction as his personality/playstyle, but being flip-floppy and vote parking is a scumtell imo.
Notice how he agrees with my "comment" and immediatly land on me after Nacho points me out for it.
Also, his "reaction test" on RY was terrible. Putting somebody in L-1 as "reaction vote" is bit too much. (Even though he unvoted kinda quickly.)
Rem, can I have your reads, please?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:58 pm
by kuror0
↑ GuyInFreezer wrote:
Kuror0: Didn't do much until Post 201. Seems like the pressure on him was building from post 275. Since post 201, he was most entirely on Fuzzy it seems.
I would like to see his reads so far.
For now, null.
They are not ready yet. As i said in a previous post when we get closer to deadline i will post them.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:00 pm
by RandomYoshi
ANYWAY
Varsoon, can you please explain why you blindly unvoted kuror0 just because Nacho told you so?
@kuror0: Nope. It's always neat to have reasons provided with things as important as a read. And having multiple of them can catch the Scum with almost no effort at all. Trust me, this is how I actually scumhunt.
@Guy: BUSTED.
Rememberance is Town. His
376 is Townish. As Scum, he'd say "guys, he failed it. Let's lynch him." But that was not what he did. He asked an open question.to everyone. That is very Town.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:09 pm
by RandomYoshi
kuror0, why are you waiting until almost-deadline to post your reads? Don't you realise that doing so is anti-Town, because then no-one can comment on them without hogging their computers?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:10 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Reaction tests are done with hope to see certain reaction from the target. If he doesn't know which reaction he hopes to get from the target, why reaction test at the first place? Also, randomly voting someone to L-1 with an excuse of "reaction test" is anti-town at least.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:14 pm
by RandomYoshi
↑ GuyInFreezer wrote:Also, randomly voting someone to L-1 with an excuse of "reaction test" is anti-town at least.
How is that? It can give off alignment tells. Doing so is pro-Town.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:17 pm
by Remembrance
No one was going to hammer him unless they were scum, GuyinFreezer.
Reads:
Scummy GuyInFreezer, ANG, Yoshi Kuror Nacho NB Fuzzy Varsoon Townie.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:19 pm
by Varsoon
↑ RandomYoshi wrote:ANYWAY
Varsoon, can you please explain why you blindly unvoted kuror0 just because Nacho told you so?
@kuror0: Nope. It's always neat to have reasons provided with things as important as a read. And having multiple of them can catch the Scum with almost no effort at all. Trust me, this is how I actually scumhunt.
@Guy: BUSTED.
Rememberance is Town. His
376 is Townish. As Scum, he'd say "guys, he failed it. Let's lynch him." But that was not what he did. He asked an open question.to everyone. That is very Town.
Already did this in post 355.
Please carefully read everything before employing implicating rhetoric.
It'll make you less transparent.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:20 pm
by GuyInFreezer
L-1 is a critical and dangerous place, because 1 more vote means hammer. That's why we're stating L-1 vote or intent to hammer. To prevent derp-hammer and stuff. Putting someone in L-1 with weak reason (such at mentioned "reaction test") is putting someone in danger with weak reason. How is that pro-town?
@Rem: there is something called derp-hammer. And most of them comes from town.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:21 pm
by Remembrance
You see any derps here GuyInFreezer?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:22 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Do you know what derp-hammer is? Also 10/10 reads. Now care to explain those reads?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:23 pm
by Remembrance
I've already explained how I want to do this right now GuyInFreezer. I want activity, and I will lie about my reads to get it if I need to.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:24 pm
by Varsoon
Leaning towards Remembrance being scum now, since Yoshi is so quick to ally with him and he's so quick to defend Yoshi. This is mostly based off of how I feel about Yoshi as well as Remembrance's 'test'.
Also, it's really kind of frustrating that the two new players are instantly at each other's throats. It's a safe play since you both have nothing to go on for eachother, so it's sort of like a mini RVS for you, but c'mon.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:25 pm
by Remembrance
Guilt by association. Be very careful Varsoon. All the newbies do it. Not even joking.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:26 pm
by RandomYoshi
So you don't actually believe in your own reads, Rememberance?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:26 pm
by Remembrance
I believe in my reads.
I believe they will help day 2.