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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:03 am
by mastin2
Majiffy wrote:Why can't 5 people in a large game all be town?
Could be town, yes, but actually are, I have doubts. Specifically, on you and AngryPidgeon, though I've also got a raised eye on UN's hydra. You could be town, yes, and I don't think all three of you are scum, but I don't think all three of you are town, either.
To give it a scale--AP is :shifty: , You are :igmeou: , and UN's hydra is :?
:P

Working with me is a great way to convince me that you're town. :P

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:08 am
by Majiffy
Angelious Nero wrote:Truth can hurt anyone Majiffy, even you. Look at you now.. getting defensive!!
Are you admitting that you play bad?

~A

No, it just hurts me inside when Indian women have unfavorable opinions about me. :cry:

mastin2 wrote:Working with me is a great way to convince me that you're town. :P

Then work with me and help me lynch AngelNero. :P

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:12 am
by borkjerfkin
Majiffy why is AngelNero scum other than you don't like ArcAngel?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:16 am
by Piratecat
mastin I am feeling left out here

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:16 am
by Angelious Nero
Majiffy, what's your Mac read?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:17 am
by Angelious Nero
Majiffy wrote:
Angelious Nero wrote:Truth can hurt anyone Majiffy, even you. Look at you now.. getting defensive!!
Are you admitting that you play bad?

~A

No, it just hurts me inside when Indian women have unfavorable opinions about me. :cry:


If that's what you think the problem is... You on a right track Majiffy, becuase if you know the problem, its easy to fix it.

borkjerfkin wrote:Majiffy why is AngelNero scum other than you don't like ArcAngel?


Wait, I never seen Majiffy ever saying that he don't like "Arcangel". don't give wrong ideas please...

~A

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:19 am
by mastin2
Piratecat wrote:mastin I am feeling left out here
Sorry, Mollie/MalaK. You two might be decent or even good scumhunters, but I really haven't seen enough of your town-play to make that call. What little I've observed of your town-plays puts you both in that range to be approximately at my level, mediocre-good. The people I listed are the people in this game who I consider to be better scumhunters than me. :P

I do know that the Mollie half of ya has experience reading Majiffy, so that'd be appreciated, and you're free to join in and do what I asked of those people despite yourselves not being among 'em, but simply put, I currently don't really feel like you're as important to coordinate with. :P

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:20 am
by Angelious Nero
Also Angel did a p good job on our avatar, don't ya'll think?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:23 am
by Majiffy
borkjerfkin wrote:Majiffy why is AngelNero scum other than you don't like ArcAngel?

OMGUSing me for poor reasons.
Nero : Majiffy is scummy [for refuted reasons that have not been responded to]
Angel : PL Majiffy because bad!

This isn't town behavior.

Angelious Nero wrote:Majiffy, what's your Mac read?

Who the fuck is Mac?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:23 am
by Colonel Guile
You all are silly.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:24 am
by Angelious Nero
Mac-Majiffy team found.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:27 am
by Piratecat
AngryPidgeon wrote:
Ms Marangal wrote:Mollie getting worked up about a random vote outside of RVS is very likely to be town motivated

Uhhhhh

Ok, Im about 2 pages behind. Be back in a bit. I don't like Malak defending Mollie's scumwall.


pidgeywidgey I swear it is like you are pretending you have never played with me before what is up with that

that was not a scumwall Image

I am waiting to consult with mala before I give a list of our reads.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:32 am
by Piratecat
mastin2 wrote:
Piratecat wrote:mastin I am feeling left out here
Sorry, Mollie/MalaK. You two might be decent or even good scumhunters, but I really haven't seen enough of your town-play to make that call. What little I've observed of your town-plays puts you both in that range to be approximately at my level, mediocre-good. The people I listed are the people in this game who I consider to be better scumhunters than me. :P

I do know that the Mollie half of ya has experience reading Majiffy, so that'd be appreciated, and you're free to join in and do what I asked of those people despite yourselves not being among 'em, but simply put,
I currently don't really feel like you're as important to coordinate with
. :P


:(

we are not important y'all

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:33 am
by Angelious Nero
no, no you aren't.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:34 am
by Majiffy
I think you're important, Mollie! :)

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:35 am
by ArcAngel9
Despite her bonding with Majiffy, I personally think Mollie is a very good town player.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:35 am
by Majiffy
Back in your hydra, you filthy injun.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:37 am
by Angelious Nero
Majiffy wrote:Back in your hydra, you filthy injun.


You scream like a 2 year old kid Majiffy!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:41 am
by AngryPidgeon
Slandaar wrote:not trying to read me.

Valid point, but they seem to be lightly trolling anyhow.

mastin2 wrote:Hey, AP, you can read Jal, right? Gonna need you to tell me if this is scum-Jal or not.

I haven't put too much effort into parsing her posts, but I'm getting a gut town feel from her. I'm not that great at reading Jal, but right now I would carelessly throw her in the town pile.

Not to be a broken record, but I kind of agree with your qwints read. (Seriously, every freaking game since Futurama I have thought qwints was scum at some point). And I am town >.<

LOL mastin. Can you only use smilies/images to describe your reads from now on?

Colonel Guile wrote:You all are silly.

Said the guy voting one of his few proclaimed townreads.

Majiffy/AANero are quickly turning this game into NY161. Thank god Vifam isn't here. Reads consolidation in next post.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:45 am
by Majiffy
AngryPidgeon wrote:Majiffy/AANero are quickly turning this game into NY161. Thank god Vifam isn't here.

Image

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:47 am
by Piratecat
Majiffy wrote:I think you're important, Mollie! :)


ArcAngel9 wrote:Despite her bonding with Majiffy, I personally think Mollie is a very good town player.


Image

I think you have super good instincts arc.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:49 am
by mastin2
Okay. Let's do this.

Angelic Nero (AKA, AANero, AKA, Nero Cangel9)--increasingly a strong townread. Though their play didn't start as I would expect a town-Nero/town-Angel to, their later posting is
exactly
what I'd expect from their town selves.

AngryPidgeon--the opposite. His play started all typical AP-town, but his later posting is reminiscent of his scum-self. He's not being obvtown. He's kinda in his scum-meta of just...being there. That said--I'd rather not go through the hoops with him on D1 about this. On d2, we can talk about this more.

ANG--very little of what ANG has said seems town, and overall, he seems to be scumposting like a champ. However, I am weary of most of the names on his bandwagon (all but Nero/Angel), along with how quickly it formed. Overall, this leaves him at nullish-scum.

Bitmap--very, VERY little content, though this might make him scum. As town, I seem to recall he was among the active posters in Posh Mafia, yet this game, he's barely posted at all. Not exactly a strong read, but nullish-scum overall.

Bork--I'll be honest, he's kinda a forgettable poster. I know he's posted a lot, but I kinda have trouble remembering he's even in the game. Reading him in iso, it looks like he's town, though, since he's definitely showing signs of thinking for himself and certainly not going with popular opinion (for instance--his doubting ANG-scum). Overall, nullish-town.

Colonel Guile (AKA, UberNinja-guille hydra)--given pretty much nothing this game. I guess they could be town; I'd sort-of expect a scum-UN/guile to try and establish towncred early-on and cruise later-game, which is kinda UN's scum-MO; they're not doing so.
But then again, they're pretty much not giving anything, which has me worried. A lot. Ambivalent overall; I want UN to read and give me scum. He's an effective scumhunter when he puts his mind into the game.

CryoNudist--I'm pretty much with Slandaar, here; their posts scream scum to me.

GuyInFreezer--if this game is multiscum, he's scum. If this game isn't multiscum, he's town. Simple as that; we'll need a scumflip to tell for certain.

Jal--I have zero confidence in my ability to read her, but my read IS a scumread.

KoC--while I see the point that his posts aren't too hard to fake as scum, they still overall come across as being town, so he's a weak townread.

Mac--I liked his entrance and his overall posting feels town. He looks like he's scumhunting, he seems to be bringing good and unique opinions to the table, his thoughts kinda mirror my own at those points in the game, and basically an air of confidence and relaxation; he doesn't feel like he's worried. Soyeah, that's why he's a pretty decent townread of mine.

Majiffy--dude looks kinda bad, to be honest. Not as bad as AP does (and AP doesn't look too bad--see above), but still not great, either. I don't have confidence in my ability to read him, though.

Messiah--pretty decent scumread. Votes CryoNudist in the RVS (kinda looks like a RVS-vote-buddy), bandwagons ANG, general bad overall vibe to his posts that feel sheepish and parrotish, overall not seeming to actually be interested in scumhunting, a bit wishy-washy, white knighting The Goat, OMGUS'ing me, weak attack against MS Marangal, and overall just not seeming town.

MS Marangal--if AP is scum, 208 is all I'd need to lynch MS Marangal as a scumbuddy. Vice-versa, too, for if MS is scum. Little bit wishy-washy overall. Defends Jiffy as well, which is similar to AP. Overall doesn't seem to have actually done much scumhunting. Hasn't even placed a vote yet in the game. Basically, there's a whole lotta nothing, except for defending players. I don't see actual scumhunting.
Overall, nullish-scum. (More scum than null.)

PeregrineV--not many posts, but the posts he's got look town.

Piratecat--As I said, I've played with both players before, but I'm not too familiar with either their town or scum play. Overall, I'd say they do give off town vibes, though, so I'd place them as town.

Qwints--ambivalent. Entirely. He could be scum, because his posting's not hard to fake, he's kinda sheepish and bandwagoning, and not contributing much. But he could be town, because what content he
does
have seems good, with what looks like good reads and decent reasoning.
If you put a gun to my head, I'd call him town ('specially with all the null-scum I have already :P), but I'm not ready to commit to that call.

Slandaar--this seems like his town-self, and I feel he's right on the money with CryoNudist.

The Goat--as covered earlier, I've been a bit on the fence with him. He seems more accustomed to this environment than he lets on to be, which is kinda scummish. However, his overall posting
does
read as town, so he gets a null-town read.

Those I haven't mentioned simply don't have content to be read one way or the other, and are therefore null.

I'll compile this list into a reads-list in a sec.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:53 am
by AngryPidgeon
Everyone below the ---- line in their category is a weaker read. I can expand on this later or ask if you want a specific read.

Scum Heap

Messiah
Knight of Cydonia
Approximately Normal Guy
-----------------
PirateCat
qwints
CryoNudist* (mainly sheeping Slandaar's suspicion here)

Town Stack

Angelious Nero
borkjerfkin
Mac
Jal
mastin2
Slandaar
------------------
Majiffy
The Goat
Ms Marangal
Colonel Guile

Everyone else:

Bitmap
PeregrineV
havingfitz
GuyinFreezer

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:54 am
by Majiffy
mastin2 wrote:GuyInFreezer--if this game is multiscum, he's scum. If this game isn't multiscum, he's town. Simple as that; we'll need a scumflip to tell for certain.

Thank you, Mastin.

VOTE: Mastin

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:54 am
by Piratecat
Colonel Guile wrote:
The Goat wrote:I have not played on this site in years. I popped on a month ago, and received a prod from 2008. And I'm (obviously) not too concerned about the common perception of when the random stage should stop. It's D1. I enjoy random voting and having fun. Tis what I'm gonna do.

I seem to remember you playing a game or two after 2008. Significantly after.

Do these ring any bells?

The question is, why would you lie about getting a prod from 2008?


I don't want this post to get buried