So the point is that either the remaining scum are already on Daemons wagon, or Daemon is scum as no-one has hammered quickly....so this will tell us a lot if and when the hammer falls.
In post 359, Daemon385 wrote:Go ahead and hammer away my friend. A town will die but I am sure it will give enough information. The other townies better get a scum next time though cause we really are going to need it. I am being completely serious by the way. If my lynch means getting a kill against scum next round then so be it.
this says giving up to me,
Eh I like to think of it more of a cautionary tale wrapped by a severed hand on a plate, but I see what you mean.
Haschel Cedricson wrote:The combination of Daemon ignoring #324, the points made by RC's excellent post, and Daemon's craptacular response to said post have me ready to hammer.
Before I do, though, I would like to hear the REAL reason 2birds is suspicious of Toomai.
*sigh*
First, my RVS suspicions never went away.
Second, Infinity/Toomai interactions are freaking weird
Third, Toomai cared way too much about my suspicions against him even before I had him revoted.
Fourth, 275 was too specific for my liking, specifically "one scum".
Having said that, as much as I really want to lynch Toomai, I'm having trouble believing that he'd actually bus the even-scummier Daemon after losing a roleblocker day one (but eh, WIFOM and all that).
Fair enough. I personally have doubts about him being scum, but I understand your arguments.
Vote: Daemon
. Smudger is right about 359 being a giant white flag.
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:12 am
by Daemon385
*Claps* Alright as I said let this be information to locate the remaining scum. Better get one next. Had fun though =) good luck all
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:52 pm
by Ankamius
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:59 pm
by Ankamius
Daemon385,
Vanilla Townie
, has been lynched Day 3.
Night 3 Begins.
All actions must be sent within the next (expired on 2013-07-26 22:00:00), which is
July 26th, 10:00 PM EST.
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:57 pm
by Ankamius
Haschel Cedricson,
Town Backup-Doctor
, has been killed Night 3.
Day 4 Begins.
The deadline is in (expired on 2013-08-10 06:00:00), which is
August 10th, 06:00 AM EST.
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:00 pm
by Ankamius
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:09 pm
by 2birds1stone
Bad news is: I'm not voting Toomai today.
Good news is: I asked the mod where Smudger went last night, and it turns out he visited a certain Haschel Cedricson.
N1 track was Toomai (nothing incriminating, which is part of the reason I've allowed myself to be derailed from his lynch so easily)
N2 track was Zhero (nothing incriminating; that's RedCoyote's slot according to the first post)
Vote: Smudger
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:32 pm
by Smudger
That's interesting, well it would seem we may have a re director in play. I went to investigate Toomai last night and received a vanilla result? I could only do that once btw investigate someone. So that sort of scuppers my big announcement that Toomai is not scum??
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:23 am
by 2birds1stone
Smudger wrote:I went to investigate Toomai last night and received a vanilla result? I could only do that once btw investigate someone. So that sort of scuppers my big announcement that Toomai is not scum??
Uh, there's a cop role in a game which has not only a doc, but a back-up doc?
Uh, no (honestly, I'm kinda surprised at doc+nurse+tracker)
Having said that, I admire the ballsiness of claiming redirection, it's certainly not something I've heard of in a normal.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:18 am
by Smudger
well that is what happened, there is not much more I can say. Other than your claim is fake, which is something that is a possibility.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:32 am
by Feel It
Well, Toonami is now in the clear. One of you two is obviously lying and is scum, the question is, who?
Mechanics which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
...
Night action redirection (no Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, or Redirector).
...
Pseudovote: Smudger
for bringing up the idea of redirection in a Normal game. I find it extremely hard to believe a town player would do this, and am only not officially voting because this is more than likely LyLo and not everyone has shown up for this day yet.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:46 am
by Toomai
Just to be clear: While "ignorance of standards" is part of my reasoning, more important is how his first idea for solving the claim discrepancy was "there's a redirection role" and not "you are fakeclaiming", and even when he does bring up fakeclaiming he's just "that is a possibility".
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:00 am
by Feel It
Smudger are you claiming cop? You should have more than one report.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:22 am
by Toomai
In post 387, Smudger wrote:I could only do that once btw investigate someone.
He claimed 1-shot.
He also claims he got a "vanilla result", which would imply Role Cop more than Cop, yet this
In post 387, Smudger wrote:sort of scuppers my big announcement that Toomai is not scum??
...which implies Cop (since a "vanilla result" says nothing for alignment). And if indeed he had been redirected to HC (which we know is not possible, but was his original claim), he wouldn't have gotten a "vanilla result". It doesn't add up.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:16 am
by RedCoyote
2b1s, are you two-shot? Or can you keep going?
I'm definitely inclined to believe 2b1s. I have a pretty strong townread on him and a scumread on Smudger.
VOTE: Smudger
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:54 am
by Feel It
Oh I see, not well versed in all the power roles. Well... I don't usually advocate lynching this early but 2birds claim looks a lot more credible than Smudger's. Giving intent to hammer.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:40 am
by Smudger
1 x shot vanilla cop
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:43 am
by Feel It
VOTE: Smudger
One of you has to be lying scum and 2birds claim simply looks more credible.
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:43 am
by Smudger
Which means I get either a result that says "vanilla" or "not vanilla" with my one investigation. So I decided to use it last night on Toomai as he isy biggest scum suspect and got this reply "vanilla".