Newbie 1433 - Game Over

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I have limited focus abilities....I was trying to figure out what to do about Nom and Skelda before I moved on to Satan. I didnt want to try to juggle to many things and miss any important on Nom and Skelda. Plus you did not ask so I did not think I was suppose to.

[Regfan]

The idea isn't to only respond to things that revolve around you or the one or two people that you're currently 'focusing on' though, the idea is to comment on anything that you get a read based around and I don't believe that you have 'no opinion' on what I pointed out about Satan.

And if you're really going to only comment on direct questions to you; Do you agree that Satan stating that he didn't find Bob scummy while there's absolute proof that he did in 3 or more quotes of his is incredibly scummy? The scum motivation is simply that he wanted to distance himself from an incorrect wagon that he was pushing alongside with him an attempt to buddy up towards Bob with there being no town motivation at all.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Reg He does contradict himself. I need to figure out why . i mean his motivation bc I believe that what we are suppose to do as oppose to just saying lying is necessarily scummy . At least that is what I have been told. I admit though on the surface he does seem to be scummy.

Sorry but I have a limited focus range. I cant change that...it is just how I was made. I will try to do better but trying to comment on every post made can be overwhelming.

[Regfan]

You don't have to comment on every post; merely those that state information that are "new" to you and new stances since they add reconsideration to the game. I explained what the scum motivated behind his actions were earlier, distancing from prior reads and an attempt at appeasing - I can't see any town motivation to pretending you didn't FoS the person you pushed on and said were very scummy and wanted to lynch them while stating there's a high chance they flip scum at all. Really the entire thing is something that only makes sense from scum ergo being a scumslip.

[2Pac]

@Regfan
What up homie, lets get to stompin'

Yo reads be generally spot on an,
But that Wall-o-text ish, is kinda tough to gnaw on,
Space it out yo, just a tip,
I read your Satan case as newb rather than scum slip.

@Nominull
Get off deez nuts son. Post 304, post 306, post 316, post 348, post 359, post 370
All that ish screams tunneling scum.
Might want to start posting actual reads and comments mayne.
You know I won't quit, until you hang.
You won't even answer simple questions playa and you can't get off of deez.
You arn't a compromise lynch, you are the prime, scum please

Prod this.

VOTE: Nominull

I'm busting and making scum panic
Don't take your life for granted put that ish in the dirt

[Skelda]

@archie

I am sure you would love Skelda's last post. Do you see the difference between that damn goat and me?

When I said you surely had noticed, without saying what, I thought you really had read it.

You never were really scummy to my eyes. Pushed you a bit, but my main target is, as always have been since I made my first reads, Skelda.

For things like that. He accused me, Ranawey, 2pac, Fuzzy and you Bob of being Scum.

@Skelda
So you basically have 4 players in your scumlist. That makes 6 combinations, but you have only mentioned four of them.
What about Bob-2pac, or Ranawey-Bob?
I don't think neither 2pac or Ranawey are scum. Fuzzy is right now under pressure, or he should be, so I'll wait until he gives some more info.

Bob is, for me, totally scummy.

So, I don't care. But I'd rather get Bob instead of Nominull.

I re-read the game from the start a couple of time, just to realize one thing: archie has been trying to get people lynched for a while. First it was me, with some kind of stupid explanation about me being nervous. The he voted Skelda, just after I did, because maybe he realized I was not getting lynched for now. Then, quickly, he switched his vote towards Nominull. But, the thing is that Nominull does not look scummy to me. He got annoyed by 2pac's sick rhymes, but hey, not everyone likes it. But, it's true I'll be glad to see his reads.
And archie just insists. Somehow, all of this makes me put my FoS on you @archie , and so, my vote.

unvote

VOTE: Archaebob

And, Mr_Ree, I dislike your early push on me. I can believe it was a RT, or I can choose to think that is a cover for an actually intended lynch. You and archie were the first ones to start the wagon. And when Skelda mentioned the doubts he had about archie, you quickly defended him, saying that "if he was mafia, he would have pushed for a Satan early lynch". I can't buy that.

Right now, I think you both are scum partners.

Now the above is what you call a scum slip. We're lynching Satan today. He went "Bob is really scummy, 'lists reasons he thinks Bob is scum", "We're lynching Bob today", "Bob is super scummy to me", "Bob man, I never thought you were scummy in my eyes".

Ha, you are right! VOTE: Satan That made everything much easier. I knew there was something off about him early on, but he had convinced that he was just a bad player for a bit.

[Skelda]

@archie

I am sure you would love Skelda's last post. Do you see the difference between that damn goat and me?

When I said you surely had noticed, without saying what, I thought you really had read it.

You never were really scummy to my eyes. Pushed you a bit, but my main target is, as always have been since I made my first reads, Skelda.

For things like that. He accused me, Ranawey, 2pac, Fuzzy and you Bob of being Scum.

@Skelda
So you basically have 4 players in your scumlist. That makes 6 combinations, but you have only mentioned four of them.
What about Bob-2pac, or Ranawey-Bob?
I don't think neither 2pac or Ranawey are scum. Fuzzy is right now under pressure, or he should be, so I'll wait until he gives some more info.

Bob is, for me, totally scummy.

So, I don't care. But I'd rather get Bob instead of Nominull.

I re-read the game from the start a couple of time, just to realize one thing: archie has been trying to get people lynched for a while. First it was me, with some kind of stupid explanation about me being nervous. The he voted Skelda, just after I did, because maybe he realized I was not getting lynched for now. Then, quickly, he switched his vote towards Nominull. But, the thing is that Nominull does not look scummy to me. He got annoyed by 2pac's sick rhymes, but hey, not everyone likes it. But, it's true I'll be glad to see his reads.
And archie just insists. Somehow, all of this makes me put my FoS on you @archie , and so, my vote.

unvote

VOTE: Archaebob

And, Mr_Ree, I dislike your early push on me. I can believe it was a RT, or I can choose to think that is a cover for an actually intended lynch. You and archie were the first ones to start the wagon. And when Skelda mentioned the doubts he had about archie, you quickly defended him, saying that "if he was mafia, he would have pushed for a Satan early lynch". I can't buy that.

Right now, I think you both are scum partners.

Now the above is what you call a scum slip. We're lynching Satan today. He went "Bob is really scummy, 'lists reasons he thinks Bob is scum", "We're lynching Bob today", "Bob is super scummy to me", "Bob man, I never thought you were scummy in my eyes".

Ha, you are right! VOTE: Satan That made everything much easier. I knew there was something off about him early on, but he had convinced that he was just a bad player for a bit.

[Skelda]

VOTE: Satan

New line.

[Skelda]

@ Skelda

...In post 285 you confirmed I was L-3. In post 282 you blatantly say you will not put me at l-1 at least not yet. Explain. Also sorry but what you say about me following people is not true. I went after Sthar when I thought he looked scummy , Nobody had said anything about the reaction test. I was on my own. I think I was wrong about it but I stood on my own on it

I didn't want you at L-1 because this is a newb game, and accidental quick lynches can happen. I wanted to avoid one, so I don't like people at L-1 until I am positive of their alignment.

[Skelda]

@Regfan
What up homie, lets get to stompin'

Yo reads be generally spot on an,
But that Wall-o-text ish, is kinda tough to gnaw on,
Space it out yo, just a tip,
I read your Satan case as newb rather than scum slip.

@Nominull
Get off deez nuts son. Post 304, post 306, post 316, post 348, post 359, post 370
All that ish screams tunneling scum.
Might want to start posting actual reads and comments mayne.
You know I won't quit, until you hang.
You won't even answer simple questions playa and you can't get off of deez.
You arn't a compromise lynch, you are the prime, scum please

Prod this.

VOTE: Nominull

I'm busting and making scum panic
Don't take your life for granted put that ish in the dirt

Why do you think it is newb? I think it is newb-scum.

[Regfan]

2Pac, I'll try and cut down on walls from hereon out, mainly just do it when I catch up since there's a lot in my head that I want to get down. What about Satan means "newb" rather than scum? Because I see no town motivation for his entire actions 3but lots of scum. Also keep in mind that he says he plays with friends which I'm guessing means IRL. In IRL mafia you can state something then pretend it never existed because there's no log and record of it occurring which means as scum he would likely do something like this. Not to mention if he had only briefly FoS'ed Bob him claiming to have never read him as scummy would be understandable but there's multiple instances of him stating he's confident he flips scum. There's also him voting Bob at L-1 which is opportunistic and bandwagoging and if he really didn't find him scummy like he's claiming he wouldn't have put him to L-1.

Also one thing I want to note before I forget, I really really don't think the interaction between Satan and Skelda are partners at all. The entire push and argument between each other heavily points against it. That means that if Satan flips scum which I'm pretty sure he will then Skelda is sadly town.

[Skelda]

Also one thing I want to note before I forget, I really really don't think the interaction between Satan and Skelda are partners at all. The entire push and argument between each other heavily points against it. That means that if Satan flips scum which I'm pretty sure he will then Skelda is sadly town.

Why is that sad? Just sad you don't have both Day 1? I'm pretty sure the other scum will reveal themselves in time. Very well could be Ranawey... Or 2Pac, him voting Nomni now is idiotic.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Reg- cant deny your points . You make a strong case. It seems that he is newb scum

vote Satan

Even if Satan flip scum it does not seem to me that we can declare Skelda town. It would be more likely that he is though.

[SafetyDance]

Votecount 1.7

SatanHellYeah (3): Regfan, Skelda, TheFuzzylogic99

skelda (2):

SatanHellYeah, Ranawey

Nominull (2):

Mr_Ree, 2Pac

Regfan (1):

sthar8

2Pac (1):

Nominull

Not voting

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-09-25 09:00:00). With 9 players, it's 5 to lynch.

[Nominull]

Does anybody who for whatever reason is putting the effort into deciphering 2Pac's posts wanna tell me if he has an explanation for disappearing for three days at a time?

[Regfan]

Skelda, it's sad because bar interaction based things I have a scum-read on you and I don't exactly like to be wrong. Also I'm pretty sure Ranawey is town and while I don't like 2Pacs explanation for not voting Satan right now I don't think his Nomni vote is that idiotic given that Nomni is intentionally avoiding posting content; that said I want him to explain how Satans actions make more sense from newbtown than newbscum (Because they don't).

Fuzzy, it would increase the odds of him being town significantly.

Nominull, being away from the game from three days means nothing; for instance Sthar hasn't posted for almost that long. You're really only discussing useless an irrelevant things that solely revolve around 2Pac.

If you're not going to play and continuously avoid actually doing anything why don't you replace out and let someone who wants to play have the slot?

[Nominull]

If I posted an honest read list you wouldn't believe me, so I may as well stick to what I'm doing.

[Nominull]

2Pac has this game figured out. The winning move is not to play. But I'll stand in defiance of that until the very end, because as long as I don't play you can't lynch me either.

[Regfan]

It's not about whether we believe it or not. It's about giving us something to read you from, giving us something to understand your head-space from. You're not doing that and he actually is albeit not that well. Right now you're acting like a fucking two year old "Nananananan I won't do anything because someone I don't like won't do anything nanananna". Start playing or replace out.

[Nominull]

You have plenty to read me from. I've posted twice as much as 2Pac or Mr. Ree, and nigh on four times as much as sthar8. It's not as though I haven't been expressing opinions relevant to the game, either. I'm being very open about where my "head-space" is: we must lynch 2Pac, and the right time is today. I just don't see how it helps town to deviate from that message.

[Regfan]

Number of posts is meaningless, someone can have 5 posts but have more content than someone with 80 posts. It's about the quality, not the quantity. And the only opinion you've been stating is that we should lynch 2Pac with your reasoning largely being policy-based and playerstyle related to alignment related. You haven't' commented on anyone in the room, stated zero real scum-reads other than 2Pac and stated zero town reads.

The worst part is that your prior games show that you know better and know how to scumhunt. So please fucking start doing it.

[Nominull]

If you read my prior games you should know better than to ask me for townreads. Noting that 2Pac disappears for days at a time and posts mostly fluff while he's here is plenty alignment-related.

[Nominull]

Hunting any scum but 2Pac would be to the town's detriment, and I don't believe in hunting town. So I'm sort of stuck.

[Regfan]

Okay, answer me this then; How is him not posting for three days any different to the following situations:

1) Mr Ree not posting from the 13th to the 16th
2) Sthar not posting in the last 3 days
3) Skelda not posting from the 18th to the 20th
4) Satan not posting from the 12th to the 15th and from the 18th to the 20th

The answer is that it isn't any different and you're fabricating reasoning to continue pushing towards 2Pac for what really is a policy lynch. And what about his posts do you read as fluff other than his rap-sections because there is actual stances and reads in his ISO. None in yours though.

[Nominull]

It's different from 1-3 because he's done it twice now, making it a pattern. It's different from 4 because Satan contributes much more when he's here. I'm not thrilled about any of those, and I think that lynching the worst offender

pour encourager les autres

would be a wonderful idea.

I wouldn't fabricate reasoning. Rather, my case is becoming more and more reasoned as more reasons to lynch him besides the "policy lynch" reveal themselves.

His rap sections are the fluff to which I'm referring, yes. His posts are rare, and when you cut the verse out of them they are short as well. This is scum.

His actual stances and reads are crap. I go crosseyed trying to read his stuff, but an example from his latest OMGUS on me - he calls me "tunneling scum". It should be obvious what I am, and that's not it.