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You're all getting het up about the fact that we said that causing someone to feel shitty about their play is a pro thing to do, yet you don't see anything wrong with the way you acted? Fuck me, you were horrible enough to someone to cause them to want to replace out within the first ten pages of the game. Regardless of alignment, or what she did first, it's a shitty thing to do, and the fact you don't even feel bad is hilarious to me. It was me who forced Quadz to say it, because I felt strongly that it was a really crappy thing to do.

My current thoughts for scum are Zdenek and Cerulean. Obviously you're all gonna be like LOL IT'S COS THEY VOTED YOU but trust me, it's not

Zdenek is trying to be all town-leadery, from my pov, and I don't think he has the skill to do it, so it strikes me as odd. Cerulean I just don't like their posts. I will go through and find specific examples but you could just believe me and we'll be fine.

People who can go on the town pile: Nero Cain, Venmar, LLD and Plum. I've liked what I've seen from those people.

-Nexus out

I was wrong on the post-author thing but it doesn't change anything.

In post 375, Tim Howard wrote:Zdenek is trying to be all town-leadery, from my pov, and I don't think he has the skill to do it, so it strikes me as odd.

This just looks like you suspect me for not alignment related things at best and for scum-hunting at worst.

In post 375, Tim Howard wrote:yet you don't see anything wrong with the way you acted? Fuck me, you were horrible enough to someone to cause them to want to replace out within the first ten pages of the game.

You've got to be kidding if you completely missed the fact that I apologized and said it was probably a decision she didn't want to make late at night, tired, dealing with taxes, etc.

Right?

You're joking, right?

Because if you seriously think I didn't feel bad when the whole thing started as , you have a seriously messed up perception of me.

CDB, what similarities are you seeing between Nexus' play in this game and in Red Wedding?

In post 264, Sixty wrote:...Jesus, Tammy. Look, I'm sorry. I don't know what I said that set you off like that, but I apologize for it. I don't have a problem with the posts in which you have content (they exist, they are good!), but empty one-liners at 2 AM or whatever it is where you are, when you're dealing with taxes and all sort of other crap, show that your head is not really in the game. I don't want that to happen, and I doubt the vacant posting itself isn't helping anyone else either. THAT is what I meant by it. I want you rested and contributing because I think you're Town and we've become pretty good at bouncing ideas back and forth in recent game.

Yeah, I snapped at you. Yeah, it was probably over the line, and I'm sorry for that. The "go the fuck to sleep" line was meant to be sarcastic, it was straight out of the link Shadoweh pulled up.

I'm sorry. I'm not going to ask you to stay in the game because there's weird meta stuff involved in that and it's not my call, but I did not mean to push you off like that, and I think that is a decision you should not be making late at night.

Seriously, what the fuck, how does this convey "I don't feel bad about how things turned out", Nexus?

Bottomline: it's a game, I fucked up, I feel sorry about that, but you two clearly aren't bothering to read our posts and that does not bode well for your alignment when apparently we're not in the "Town pile" and you should be sorting us out.

I forgot that apologising for doing something shitty makes it all better. Sorry about that!

I didn't say I thought you were scummy. You've not got us on your Town-pile, and that doesn't bode well for your alignment either! Although, Quadz is pretty insistent you're town, and given he's probably played with you more recently, I'm inclined to agree with him.

In post 52, Zdenek wrote:

In post 21, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Interesting ability I should claim: If the day ends in a no lynch (whether from running out of time, or by a majority vote on the "No Lynch" wagon). I enter 2 people into a duel, and they get to plead their case, and I unilaterally choose to lynch one!

Granted, the cases they plead are anonymous, and I don't choose a name, but rather whichever post I liked better, but that's beyond the point~.

Also,

Vote: Sixty

because KITTIES ARE BETTER WHERE IS MY MAFIA WITH THE PUPPIES 2 I WANT HOPE BACK.

Vote: LLD

For a change of pace, I'm going to irrationally defend Tierce (Sixty) for a bit.

In post 54, Zdenek wrote:Not compulsive.

In post 57, Zdenek wrote:

In post 55, Sixty wrote:

In post 52, Zdenek wrote:

Vote: LLD

Why?

Keep reading?

In post 62, Zdenek wrote:oh most definitely.

In post 83, Zdenek wrote:It's funny just how hurt Sangres is.

In post 89, Zdenek wrote:

Unvote

Vote: Katsuki

In post 123, Zdenek wrote:

In post 102, Sixty wrote:

In post 100, Untrod Tripod wrote:holy fuckin jesus is sangres always this much of a tryhard?

Not likely.

While 99 is a post to put in their signature for Nexus, the wall gets worse as it goes down. This isn't the puppyhalf with Tammy meta, but those Cerulean posts were starting to stretch belief for me. In addition, somehow Nacho went from "I have no read on F-16" to "I have a Town read on F-16 but not enough of one to actually come forward and say it's a Town read". The Tim Howard read is indeed trying hard, as is the throwout on you (UT) - I don't mind your Cerulean vote but that's probably not significant in the long run.

What would be super-interesting would be sangres moving their vote. Anything is better than No Lynch.

And to think, I wasn't even going to read it.

In post 125, Zdenek wrote:Nacho, is your Vi read serious?

In post 134, Zdenek wrote:This is going to be stressful.

In post 159, Zdenek wrote:What's up with 60?

In post 158, Zdenek wrote:Okidoki
You?

In post 176, Zdenek wrote:

In post 124, Tim Howard wrote:hey team

these 5 pages suck. Nexus and I are in agreement that we have no reads except "sangres is obnoxious."

IN KEEPING WITH THAT STATEMENT

VOTE: Sangres

-quadz

SCUM DETECTED

Vote: Tim Howard

In post 280, Zdenek wrote:

In post 277, Tim Howard wrote:Pretend we have written a long post here professing my love for UT and all of his opinions.

VOTE: Cerulean



We agree with UT that cerulean has been scummy. Pre-emptive IDGAF about inevitable OMGUS accusations because fuck you don't be a dumbass.

In other news, it may just be because sangres hasn't posted as much, but they've fallen off the obnoxious-dar.

Also, apparently making another player feel like a bad person is super pro now, awesomely well done there, sixty.

Yeah that's about all we've got for now. GOALKEEPERS OUT.

I just love opening the thread and seeing the person I'm voting, fake scum hunting.

In post 282, Zdenek wrote:Katsuki votes are okay with me.


I'm just going to ignore F-16 until he's posted a bunch and then sink him with his scummy, scummy words, which he'll inevitably write if he's scum.

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote:only scumread is a throwaway line about Howard being boring

I am definitely not voting him because he's boring.

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote:Wow, wallposting while not rambling is fucking hard, how do people even do this?

HI MASTIN!?

In post 286, Zdenek wrote:UT, should we lynch you or CBD next?

In post 307, Zdenek wrote:

In post 294, Venmar wrote:I'm reading Howard as town.

I'm all ears.

In post 343, Zdenek wrote:

In post 341, Venmar wrote:no opinion

Weird

In post 363, Zdenek wrote:

In post 360, xRECKONERx wrote:mmmmm yes tell me more about why my laziness means I am scum

Poor Reck, caught for the wrong reasons.

In post 377, Zdenek wrote:

In post 375, Tim Howard wrote:Zdenek is trying to be all town-leadery, from my pov, and I don't think he has the skill to do it, so it strikes me as odd.

This just looks like you suspect me for not alignment related things at best and for scum-hunting at worst.

This is really scum hunting. Man, I need some lessons. I didn't realise the meta had shifted to just making one line statements = scumhunting.

In post 342, Zdenek wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Untrod Tripod

Basically, he jumped to defend Tim Howard in posts 284, 285 by attacking Sixty and Cerulean and now he's jumped to attack Venmar who's attacking Cerulean and defending Tim Howard (among other things).

This is probably your best post, because at least you're justifying yourself!

In post 379, Zdenek wrote:CDB, what similarities are you seeing between Nexus' play in this game and in Red Wedding?

I'm not saying it's a specific link between this game and that, I'm saying that my response - I know him very well, I can read him very well, trust me when I tell you he's town and look elsewhere for the time being - is the same here as it was there.

Please can someone explain to me how Cerulean's posts are coming off as remotely pro-town, because I just don't see it. A lot of what they've posted is useless fluff, and I was under the impression that both Empire and Tammy posted better than that in general. *shrug*.

(This is all Nexus).

I am, now, going to speak to Quadz before I post again.

PREDIT: HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

zdenek #1 scumhunter.

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote:Finally caught up. I wasn't expecting that need before my first post, yet here we are. Since Lambda isn't inclined to tell you, I will: Her ability starts a Haiku Contest.

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote: I give my role a 1/25 of a Voyeur rating, with a pending 1/50 drop if this goes how I expect it to.

Are these two things related?

7 different votes, on six different people. You're a good scumhunter, Zdenek.

I'm not going to continue this argument, because it's not going to help the game if I do. I apologise if you think I was out of line, but I really didn't like what you did, and felt I needed to say something.

From my end, I'm dropping it.

If you can point out to anywhere I said "it makes things all better", especially considering that , you get a cookie. Otherwise, you can bugger off, Nexus. You're unnecessarily rubbing crap in, making erroneous statements deliberately (saying the above, saying that I don't feel bad, hurriedly patching up "not in Town pile != scummy so we totally don't need to figure you out") and trying to prolong conflict for the sake of conflict and not even trying to read us (or Cerulean through Tammy's outburst, if nothing else!), so have fun with that while I go watch the moon instead.

I posted my top town reads and top scum reads and got shit for it. So I then say why I didn't put you in my town reads, and get shit for it? Wicked.

Done now.

In post 384, ChannelDelibird wrote:

In post 379, Zdenek wrote:CDB, what similarities are you seeing between Nexus' play in this game and in Red Wedding?

I'm not saying it's a specific link between this game and that, I'm saying that my response - I know him very well, I can read him very well, trust me when I tell you he's town and look elsewhere for the time being - is the same here as it was there.

He's pretty obviously scum at this point, so I'm afraid one game of you reading him correctly isn't going to convince me.

He went from Zdenek is trying to lead the town to Zdenek isn't scum hunting and is posting one liners in the space of 23 minutes.
Then he goes to insulting me - Zdenek #1 scum-hunter.
Which is dissonant with him thinking that I'm scum.
Then he acts as though all my votes were somehow serious as a means to insult my scum hunting, and several of my votes obviously were not serious.

In post 294, Venmar wrote:I'm reading Howard as town.

Aren't you


Wrong, but cute nonetheless.


(I am holding my vote for TH pending a VC because one in the morning.)


-Nobody Special

Oh, yes. I am caught up.


-Nobody Special

Again, it's not one game, it's simply from one game. See also for my reads on Nexus: UK Scummers Invitational, a shit-ton of face-to-face games, including a bunch just last week.

No part of #391 makes me think that my read is wrong.

Anyway, more interestingly, we should have more votes on Shadoweh.

Plum is V/la.[/area]
Prodding kanyeknowsbest

CDB, throw a dog a bone.
Could you elaborate on how you got a Town read on Tim Howard from their first five posts without us having to have played dozens of games with Nexus?

I might, when I get time, but I don't right at present and I wouldn't hold your breath for anything significantly more satisfying than what I've already said. It's the sort of thing that can be got into later down the line if needed but, on Day 1, just look elsewhere.

I fell asleep and people started immediately talking about me. <_<
It's not like Tammy can tell when I'm Town either, she would just waffle about it. I only have two modes, really Fucking Obvious Scum and Cute. I like to think I sound more as Town.

In post 375, Tim Howard wrote:(Whole buncha words I don't wanna read again were here.)
My current thoughts for scum are Zdenek and Cerulean. Obviously you're all gonna be like LOL IT'S COS THEY VOTED YOU but trust me, it's not

Zdenek is trying to be all town-leadery, from my pov, and I don't think he has the skill to do it, so it strikes me as odd. Cerulean I just don't like their posts. I will go through and find specific examples

if you really want

but you could just believe me and we'll be fine.

People who can go on the town pile: Nero Cain, Venmar, LLD and Plum. I've liked what I've seen from those people.

-Nexus out

I don't think anyone voted you for being a jerk to Sixty, not even Sixty who has been voting you since page 7.

Not having the skill to be a leader has never stopped anyone from trying. Considering the lull from people who didn't know how to push past RVS-y thoughts, someone trying to take charge in that situation should come off as more pro-town, yes? Otherwise it does look like yes, it's because Zdenek was voting you. The ad-hominem quote wall of Zdeneks after this doesn't help. You do not look like you're attacking Zdenek for being Scum, just "Bad".

Cerulean's #362 IE Empire taking the reins seriously looked pretty damn pro-Town to me and filled with delicious actual reasoning on more then a surface level. Saying they've posted alot of useless fluff (which isn't out of character for Tammy in general) ignores the reads posts interspersed between. They haven't just been fluffposting.

You've also got a weird town pile. The only thing Plum's done is sheep chamber onto Venmar, who you have a townread on, where did you pull a townread from that?

In post 386, Nobody Special wrote:

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote:Finally caught up. I wasn't expecting that need before my first post, yet here we are. Since Lambda isn't inclined to tell you, I will: Her ability starts a Haiku Contest.

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote: I give my role a 1/25 of a Voyeur rating, with a pending 1/50 drop if this goes how I expect it to.

Are these two things related?

If I didn't think half the game could guess this I wouldn't be inclined to answer you, but no. I can just intuit reasoning. I do have irresistible urges to flavorgame the setup and crack everyone's picks wide open for some reason though!

In post 378, Sixty wrote:*PUPPY RAGE*

Less talking to someone who isn't as pretty as me? What do you think of:
- Nero Cain claiming not to be an Innocent Child
- Zdenek, in general I guess
- UT who tbh seems forgettable to me this game
- DayMasoning with Cerulean and/or making some weird SCS hybrid?

To CBD, who I have mostly been ignoring. I understand the nature of your complain, but "LLD is really super obvtown" and "LLD should stop trolling people by making it sound like there will be actual posts to judge rather then who writes the best a b c d e stanza" are seperate statements. Also I just really wanted to show her how clever I am.