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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:04 am
by Iecerint



Things that made me choose Andy:

1. His early townread on me seemed a little strong to me (I can follow it, but it seemed stronger than I expected), so he was already kinda on my mind.
2. His motive in asking for my read on PeregrineV indirectly is really unclear, especially in light of an apparent townread on me. Why ask his townread in particular? Why ask it of his townread indirectly?
3a. His take on my post-Pine posts would seem pretty non-default given a town read of me, but makes some sense if it's a "following the crowd"-derived take on the situation.
3b. His take on the same posts would seem to imply that I was town anyway (this one could just be a logic error, but in light of the rest it starts to fit a pattern).

Farside had independent reasons I think, but she echoed point 2. It feels like ABR is kind of sheeping me (e.g., Pine after I appeared to be attacking him rhetorically, then this), which feels kinda unfamiliar, but I guess he's at least pretty non-prejudicial in who he follows me onto.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:21 am
by Albert B. Rampage
You raise good points. I like this wagon more and more. I miss playing with you Iecerint :)

PM me if you sign up for another game, k?

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:58 am
by Shadowmod
—VOTE COUNT


farside22
(0/7) —
Pine
,
Andrius
,
Nachomamma8
,
Konowa

Southern Gothic
(0/7) —
Nachomamma8
,
FourTrouble
,
Albert B. Rampage

Iecerint
(3/7)
— Flames682, All is Who, Pine,
Albert B. Rampage

FourTrouble
(1/7)
farside22
,
Andrius
Pine
(0/7) —
Iecerint
,
Albert B. Rampage
,
Albert B. Rampage

Albert B. Rampage
(1/7)
Pine
,
Nachomamma8,
Konowa

Konowa
(1/7)
farside22
,
Southern Gothic,
Albert B. Rampage

Andrius
(4/7)
— FourTrouble, Iecerint, farside22, Albert B. Rampage


Not Voting (3/13): PeregrineV, VictorDeAngelo, Konowa

With 13 players still alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, 7 to force no lynch.
Day 1 deadline is (expired on 2015-01-12 17:00:00)

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:56 am
by All is Who
Sorry about being a little bit absent. Icy brought up a good point, and he seems to be working through things.

VOTE: ABR

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:20 pm
by Southern Gothic
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Southern Gothic wrote:I am here iceyrent!!! I will keep you company!!!

patiently waiting for konowa and flames.

Did you notice Konowa replaced out?


I didn't!

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:43 pm
by Southern Gothic
I think andy is town.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:03 pm
by All is Who
I'll see your townread on andy, and raise you an assertion that there's scum on his wagon.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:03 pm
by All is Who
How would you feel about joining me on ABR.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:12 am
by farside22
Southern Gothic wrote:I think andy is town.



Why?

I do have my reasons for my scum read.
I'll get my in depth case together Thursday but the short version is he's just engaging but not scum hunting. He's posting I quoted on 2 occasions do not match a natural thought process either.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:37 am
by Iecerint
ABR's not a bad vote really.

I would be interested in elaborations on Andy being town, though. The best one I can come up with is that ABR didn't really hesitate to vote him.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:25 am
by VictorDeAngelo
ptap - Still sick, will replace out if I don't get better soon.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:53 am
by FourTrouble
Iecerint wrote:I would be interested in elaborations on Andy being town, though. The best one I can come up with is that ABR didn't really hesitate to vote him.

How would that make Andy town?

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:03 am
by Iecerint
My point is that it is not a very good one. I think Andy is scummy and am voting him.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:09 am
by FourTrouble
The opposition from Southern Gothic and All is Who is concerning.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:10 am
by FourTrouble
Iece, what're your thoughts on Flames?

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:15 am
by Iecerint
There is not much there, and what's there ain't great.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:19 am
by Albert B. Rampage
The scum are All is Who/Andrius/(Konowa or Southern Gothic). I said it here first.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:30 am
by Albert B. Rampage
The half-baked attempts at shifting attention away from Andrius and to me are disappointing.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:43 am
by Iecerint
In ABRtownworld, I don't think Who and Southern Gothic are both scum. At most one of them is scum. Too brazen and too quick for scumfriends IMO.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:47 am
by Albert B. Rampage
You're right...PeregrineV instead of Souther Gothic.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:49 am
by Iecerint
They may also just be correct tbf. That's why I want to get a sense of what's motivating their perspective.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:49 am
by Iecerint
Also I forgot that PV was even in this game.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:49 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I'm still paranoid about you and Pine being scum. It's a recurring theme in my games to always be backstabbed by the ones I want to trust.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:50 am
by Iecerint
Andy-PV does make some sense because Andy is probably more likely to pick up on his scumfriend making a perceived "slip" like saying he's read and doesn't have reads.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:51 am
by Iecerint
I was actually really excited when I misread your scumlist as having Southern Gothic and All Is Who as the either/or because I thought it meant you were town and I could feel more secure in Andy, but then I noticed I was mistaken. D: