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In post 373, Javajoe24 wrote:Yeah, I would really like some answers to 288.

1) Thanks for making me go back and dig through the thread instead of just linking it.
2) That would be appropriate for a PM to the mod. You didn't bold it, so the mod probably didn't see it.

In post 116, Javajoe24 wrote:I don't like all the flip floppiness you have been doing xk..... You have posted little to no reasoning to any of your votes, but continue to throw them out there seemingly at random

In post 245, Javajoe24 wrote:Yeah, you are confusing lack of posts/effort for scumminess, which is not necessarily true. I think Lilith is town, and right now I am going to

VOTE: xk

I don't like his posts thus far. Lane came across scummy to me, but not enough to vote him. My play style I am generally more cautious with my votes and don't throw them around. Only exception being RVS.

In post 285, Javajoe24 wrote:

In post 282, Xkfyu wrote:I would like anyone who hasn't already to comment on Kuroi's lynch.

I don't like this wagon. It formed way to quickly for my liking, and my biggest scum read jumped on it as well. I am fine with my current vote.

In post 368, Javajoe24 wrote:I have to agree with Lilith, every upick I have seen everyone has had some kind of power. That being said, I do believe you both on your VT claims. Sticking with my current vote.

These are all your posts with relevant content. As in As far as I can tell, you have a town read on Lilith and a scum read on Xkfyu and that's all. Other than "forming too quickly," I really don't know what your issue with the Kuroi wagon was; there's no reads on any participants in the Kuroi wagon other than Xkfyu. As far as I can tell, there's no attempt at reads on any of the other 5 players in the game.

Your posts are very lacking in detail that breathe life into your reads or thoughts and make them meaningful. That makes me less likely to think they're genuine. Your tone is also very robotic and even the little you have is padded. "Fine with my current vote," "sticking with my current vote" OK, you're not changing your vote, I can already see that.

What are your reads on everyone else?

In post 334, lilith2013 wrote:In post 308, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 306, KuroiXHF wrote:
To clarify my last role, I didn't mean my role doesn't mean just because I'm a VT; I mean my role doesn't matter because if I told you I was a cop, it wouldn't change whether you'd see me as scum or not.

If you would have claimed Cop, I wouldn't have necessarily believed you outright, but I would have still unvoted, and let the night actions sort you.

Claiming VT here though, does lead me to believing you outright.

Why?!?!?!?!?!

Claiming VT in what I figure has as many roles (or close to it) as a Role Madness game as scum would basically be suicide.

In post 334, lilith2013 wrote:In post 324, lane0168 wrote:
In post 306, KuroiXHF wrote:
To clarify my last role, I didn't mean my role doesn't mean just because I'm a VT; I mean my role doesn't matter because if I told you I was a cop, it wouldn't change whether you'd see me as scum or not.


I got a serious issue with this post... Why would claiming cop even be an option if you're vanilla Townie? This just looks like you thought about claiming cop, but then thought maybe vanilla Townie would be most believable

This. It sounds like Kuroi saw lane's "my character is way underpowered" post in the beginning and decided to claim VT in order to match what he thought other people had for roles.

I think that's a bit of a reach.

In post 334, lilith2013 wrote:In post 325, Xkfyu wrote:
TTH, I'm kinda starting to like Javajoe a little more. Convince me he's scum, please.

And why on earth are you asking for TTH to case joe?!?!?! Competing wagon much?

She and I were both scum reading him earlier in the game. However, now that I believe Kuroi's claim, Joe looks a little better to me since he was against the wagon, and I wanted TTH's current thoughts on him, or anyone else.

In post 368, Javajoe24 wrote:I have to agree with Lilith, every upick I have seen everyone has had some kind of power. That being said, I do believe you both on your VT claims. Sticking with my current vote.

Still staying with that vote on me, huh?

Anything I can do to change your mind?

In post 377, Xkfyu wrote:Joe looks a little better to me since he was against the wagon

Being against a wagon is a not a difficult or risky position for scum to take. This is especially true if they know the wagon's on town.

In post 379, TellTaleHeart wrote:

In post 377, Xkfyu wrote:Joe looks a little better to me since he was against the wagon

Being against a wagon is a not a difficult or risky position for scum to take. This is especially true if they know the wagon's on town.

I'm aware, hence the word "little."

Joe, could you answer this question, please?

In post 248, Xkfyu wrote:

In post 245, Javajoe24 wrote:Yeah, you are confusing lack of posts/effort for scumminess, which is not necessarily true. I think Lilith is town, and right now I am going to

VOTE: xk

I don't like his posts thus far. Lane came across scummy to me, but not enough to vote him. My play style I am generally more cautious with my votes and don't throw them around. Only exception being RVS.

Which posts didn't you like, and why?

In post 369, KuroiXHF wrote:Updated Read List:

Strong Town: TelltaleHeart
Lean Town: Clumsy
Null: Soren, Javajoe, Xkfyu, Snarkysnowman
Lean Scum: Lane, Lilith
Strong Scum:

Although I haven't critically examined Clumsy as much as I'd like.

Why is Lane still in your scum pile?

In post 374, SnarkySnowman wrote:That's the most non-committal readlist ever kuroi. Why no read on xk? why no read on javajoe? why scumlean on lilith??

Well, at least he posted a read list. What does yours look like?

Someone get in here and talk to me.

In post 382, Xkfyu wrote:

In post 369, KuroiXHF wrote:Updated Read List:

Strong Town: TelltaleHeart
Lean Town: Clumsy
Null: Soren, Javajoe, Xkfyu, Snarkysnowman
Lean Scum: Lane, Lilith
Strong Scum:

Although I haven't critically examined Clumsy as much as I'd like.

Why is Lane still in your scum pile?

Yeah, why?

Finally, someone's here.

Lane, what are you thoughts on TTH?

Sorry, I was just getting super worked up yesterday and thought I'd better take a break for a few hours. I think I was just getting stuck in confbias mode in regards to kuroi claiming VT, but as long as lane's town I think kuroi is probably cleared here (and yeah, lane is still my strongest townread).

Even though I still think kuroi is scummy as shit. Ugh.

So Lilith, do you still feel this way:

In post 334, lilith2013 wrote:In post 305, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 303, lane0168 wrote:
What's going on xk?

I believe him.

Ew.

Well.. What you said makes sense; given the meta for role madness, it'd be close to suicide for scum to claim VT. I can't shake off the feeling that kuroi claimed VT deliberately but again.. I can't tell if I'm just confbiasing myself at this point.

In post 391, lilith2013 wrote:Well.. What you said makes sense; given the meta for role madness, it'd be close to suicide for scum to claim VT. I can't shake off the feeling that kuroi claimed VT deliberately but again.. I can't tell if I'm just confbiasing myself at this point.

Well, given the way Kuroi said "Vanilla Superhero," and the fact that Lane confirmed it, I think it's pretty safe to say he's telling the truth.

Yeah I don't have any reason to believe kuroi is anything but town. Even the spiderman sample role pm just says superhero

I have tth as a town read. She had a chance to hammer kuroi with basically no backlash and didn't take it. Even if she had Id still have her as town

In post 393, lane0168 wrote:Yeah I don't have any reason to believe kuroi is anything but town. Even the spiderman sample role pm just says superhero

Yep, I checked that as well.

In post 394, lane0168 wrote:I have tth as a town read. She had a chance to hammer kuroi with basically no backlash and didn't take it. Even if she had Id still have her as town

Yeah, you're probably right about the hammer. I just have serious trepidation about lynching Joe.

Yeah id like to lynch javajoe.

Pedit. Then who?

In post 397, lane0168 wrote:Yeah id like to lynch javajoe.

Don't get me wrong. I get it. He's pretty damn scummy looking, and the points against him are good. In my experience though, the scummiest players in D1 almost always flip town.

In post 397, lane0168 wrote:Then who?

I'm not exactly sure yet. I have you and Kuroi as strong town, followed by TTH and Lilith who I think are probably town.

So, one of Clumsy, Joe, Snarky, and Soren being my choices for today.

I'm gonna start here:

VOTE: Clumsy

In post 378, Xkfyu wrote:

In post 368, Javajoe24 wrote:I have to agree with Lilith, every upick I have seen everyone has had some kind of power. That being said, I do believe you both on your VT claims. Sticking with my current vote.

Still staying with that vote on me, huh?

Anything I can do to change your mind?

No, nothing you can do. I had to put in more effort in reading your entire ISO, and after doing that I have to say that I think I was wrong and you are town. Going to be reading everyone else's ISO today and see if I can't find some scum.

UNVOTE: xk