What if I'm wrong about you? What if I want to interact with you more, hear your opinion so I can read you better?
You are very self-defensive. And you implied that you think that town shouldn't be self-defensive. Looks to me like you are going against your own logic, in an attempt to create a reason to scumread me for.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:44 am
by karnos
In post 369, Harkonnen97 wrote:I don't see a contradiction there. I don't like Karnos' "gambit" (or whatever the fuck he's trying to do). This implies that I think he's either scum or bad town. And I'm reading him as bad town.
It's not a gambit. It's called a win-win situation.
I think Elephantpee is scum. I want him lynched.
But if he isn't scum, there is a chance scum might quick hammer- and that would be okay too because then we caught scum.
Win-win. We only lose if stupid town quick lynches town Elephantpee, but I'm banking on the idea that we don't have any town that stupid.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:45 am
by Transcend
You're the one who's self defensive.
I don't give a fuck that you fos me.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:46 am
by Transcend
All my posts have been attacking you and not defending myself.
Please continue hard claiming scum in every post you make.
In post 369, Harkonnen97 wrote:I don't see a contradiction there. I don't like Karnos' "gambit" (or whatever the fuck he's trying to do). This implies that I think he's either scum or bad town. And I'm reading him as bad town.
It's not a gambit. It's called a win-win situation.
I think Elephantpee is scum. I want him lynched.
But if he isn't scum, there is a chance scum might quick hammer- and that would be okay too because then we caught scum.
Win-win. We only lose if stupid town quick lynches town Elephantpee, but I'm banking on the idea that we don't have any town that stupid.
The tone here implies that you are scumreading me over it.
In post 378, Transcend wrote:All my posts have been attacking you and not defending myself.
Please continue hard claiming scum in every post you make.
By attacking me who is attacking you, aren't you indirectly defending yourself? I think it's called chainsaw defense?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:51 am
by Transcend
Nah your vig claim is NAI. But you wanted me lynched so bad you stooped to fake claiming.
Then two seconds later you appeal to me rofl.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:54 am
by Harkonnen97
I wasn't appealing to you scumlord. You stated that you're scumreading me without providing reasoning for it. I wanted to hear them. You trying to paint that off as scummy is reaching.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:56 am
by Transcend
"You scum read me 7 posts in... you're obvious scum. But hey why am i scum? Care to tell me?"
Gbye already.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:59 am
by Harkonnen97
In post 383, Transcend wrote:"You scum read me 7 posts in... you're obvious scum. But hey why am i scum? Care to tell me?"
You seem to imply that what you just said paints me off as an obvscum. Unless I'm missing something, I don't really see it.
If i recall isnt there a karnos on em who is just awful
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:55 am
by Skold
Trascends stupid...stupidness is kinda toxic to this town. VOTE: Transcend
I get he wants to be alpha!town/masquerade as that but it's honestly more obnoxious than powerful.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:12 am
by innocentvillager
LOL HARK CAME IN AND CHANGED EVERYTHING LMAO wtf is going on now
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:16 am
by innocentvillager
In post 341, Harkonnen97 wrote:I disagree. Being bold and obnoxious is more often a town tell than a scum tell.
That was never my point (although, this is contentious and MAY or MAY NOT be true). My point was no one was going to take the argument seriously if all he did was shout and give gut as a reason, even if people townread him.
Hark wrote:In post 220, innocentvillager wrote:
Actually knowing that you are soda on EM makes me not townread you anymore since I can see scum!soda pushing a horrible wagon like this.
What do you know about his meta?
soda uses AtE a lot, is a very active poster, and on EM the premise is to play with a lot of snarky and obnoxious one-liners to get people to AtE lynch and tonal scum read the people you want gone.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:36 am
by Harkonnen97
@IV that post implies that you yourself think karnos is a bad town and you're trying to teach him better. If so, why is your vote still on him? Is he still your top scumread?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:36 am
by innocentvillager
Spoiler: kind of a wall but mostly just respond to quotes
In post 329, ironstove wrote:
This is my first game on mafia scum, I don't know what a mafia scum mafia looks like. Everyone here is so civil and calm, I'm used to people flaming each other in all caps and people who aren't typing all caps are generally hard scum reads.
I wouldn't consider this civil at all. And this game just got less civil in the last few pages...
In post 339, karnos wrote:It's a tasty little piece of cheese. Any scum want to hammer and collect it?
I'll trade town!Enefpe for a scum. It's a perfectly fair deal.
karnos wtf is this?? Did you seriously not think newbtown might hammer that?
In post 341, Harkonnen97 wrote:IV - would be lean town, if he wasn't so focused on himself. the repeated use of "you accuse me of not contributing, but I've contributed more than others" is something that implies that he worries alot about how he's being read, and that he feels like he should be townread more.
Dude did you even read the thread? I used that response like twice, both were responding to the same point attacking me for one of my read posts against EnT when Skold hadn't done anything at that point.
I don't think I should necessarily be townread, I just think people are scum reading me for shitty reasons and I need to dispel that if I don't want a shitty mislynch on me. Everyone is concerned about how they read to others, even you here.
In post 354, Enefpe no Time wrote:I dont generally read walls and the examples you listed towards transcend were pretty weak. I generally disagree there
Also i have to deal with the spergelord mod telling me not to make sexist jokes(as if suddenly ive crossed the line)i mean talk about the internet thought police im guessing he is with her
-_- refusal to play the game and not read anything longer than a paragraph is not good along with general read statements like that.
Also, please stop insulting people, especially the mod. You can go troll anywhere on the internet if you want, but avoid being a dick as much as possible in here please. It's very clearly stated in the rules too.
Actually read what he said. Congrats on scumming up the game in about 7 posts.
And yes i town read karnos again. Just had to question the vote.
We're not policy lynching a pr claim. For all we know he MIGHT be our only pr.
I don't see how he scummed up the game in those posts. Why was Hark scum before you made that post?
In post 376, karnos wrote:
Win-win. We only lose if stupid town quick lynches town Elephantpee, but I'm banking on the idea that we don't have any town that stupid.
Hmm... looks town-motivated now but I seriously wouldn't bank on that fact.
In post 387, Skold wrote:Trascends stupid...stupidness is kinda toxic to this town. VOTE: Transcend
I get he wants to be alpha!town/masquerade as that but it's honestly more obnoxious than powerful.
Skold, at least Transcend has been contributing a lot, albeit in a dickish and annoying EM-like minimalist way. Instead of sitting back and calling everyone bad in this game, I suggest you take some posts to generate real content to explain why people are being bad.
In post 390, Harkonnen97 wrote:@IV that post implies that you yourself think karnos is a bad town and you're trying to teach him better. If so, why is your vote still on him? Is he still your top scumread?
What?? When am I referring to karnos in that post?
I never said karnos is a bad town.
I somewhat scum read him, though I'll admit it's not as strong as most scum reads. It's weird that I have a lot of town, null-lean town reads and null reads but no real scum reads.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:47 am
by Harkonnen97
Oh, who was that refering to then? Your first quote of a post of mine that I talk about obnoxious and blunt likely = town. Im on mobile and its a pain in the ass to track it back myself
>>>I hard claim Vigilante. Vote Transcend or I'm shooting you tonight<<<
What is this post? Why would you fake claim a vigi? All of your posts up until this point seemed very serious and then you throw out a rando fake claim of a role that isn't in this setup.
Also, why does everyone town read me so hard? Is it because of that 'I'm a VT' post I made on P1? LOL. Is it really that easy to appear town to people?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:05 am
by Harkonnen97
Don't get too full of yourself mate. I'm townreading you because I don't think you have the balls to do that as scum.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:11 am
by ironstove
Oh yea? Don't think I have the balls huh? Why don't you lynch me and find out???
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:12 am
by ironstove
fiddler replaced mori and has been a veg
VOTE: FIDDLER
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:34 am
by ironstove
In post 395, Harkonnen97 wrote:Don't get too full of yourself mate. I'm townreading you because I don't think you have the balls to do that as scum.
BTW this kind of reasoning sounds scummy.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:41 am
by Harkonnen97
Its not the only reason you're a TR for me. You bringed up the subject about everyone blindly and stupidly townreading you for your VT claim, which isn't necessarily towny, it could be scummy, and that was my reasoning for not thinking it was scummy in your case.