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How about creature

Meh I think Creature feels a bit lynchbaity.

In post 370, Infinity 324 wrote: It looks like you're trying here, but this is once again, extraordinarily shallow.

Poppycock! That's some good scumhunting there bro.

In post 370, Infinity 324 wrote:You're implying here that scum would be careless enough to directly contradict themselves and town wouldn't, first of all, which doesn't seem true to me.

Whether or not it seems true to you has no bearing on whether or not it is true.

Again, this is behavior that will come from scum or bad-town. If you just write everything off as "well town can act scummy" (and YES contradictions ARE scummy) then you're not gonna be hanging much scum.

In post 370, Infinity 324 wrote:I'll let smart explain his side of it, but I don't think it's a contradiction at all tbh.

So basically you're saying that it isn't a contradiction but even it was, it wouldn't be scummy?

In post 372, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: Zachstral

This is actually a dumb vote and I'm not sure who to vote atm.

Maybe something scummy

thats what i thought dont vote me again

In post 377, Gamma Emerald wrote:Meh I think Creature feels a bit lynchbaity.

Looks like whiteknighting

In post 378, JarJarDrinks wrote:quote="In post 370, Infinity 324"]You're implying here that scum would be careless enough to directly contradict themselves and town wouldn't, first of all, which doesn't seem true to me.

Whether or not it seems true to you has no bearing on whether or not it is true.[/quote]

Excuse me?

Again, this is behavior that will come from scum or bad-town.

"Bad" (or simply forgetful) town or really bad scum.

How incompetent would you have to be as scum to be careless enough to do the simplest thing that many people would see as scummy? Don't you think that scum would have motivation to be careful about that kind of stuff?

Of course there's wine involved but ultimately it's NAI.

Theory discussion aside, I don't think you're looking deep enough into people's play. You point out the contradiction, but you don't examine whether it's likely that scum!smart would let that happen.

In post 370, Infinity 324 wrote: So basically you're saying that it isn't a contradiction but even it was, it wouldn't be scummy?

Correct.

In post 330, JarJarDrinks wrote:

In post 329, Donempire wrote:btw ur reads arent good, so keep the bragging for when you are sure

Got any specifics ones u disagree w/?

Sure. Whats your reads list?

In post 331, JarJarDrinks wrote:

In post 329, Donempire wrote:so if you thought he was scum you would keep arguing with him? dont understand, ezplain.

What don't you understand about that?

The "ur town so i wont discuss my playstyle" part. it doesnt make sense to me why you would bring up the "ur town" part, cos i dont know why you would want to discuss it with him if you thought he was scum. i didnt get what tf you meant, tldr.

In post 348, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 343, Gamma Emerald wrote:What's so funny?

Posts I quoted can't be real...

mine is. and its a shitpost with no use. thank you.

In post 376, Infinity 324 wrote:How about creature

what about him

In post 378, JarJarDrinks wrote:

In post 370, Infinity 324 wrote: It looks like you're trying here, but this is once again, extraordinarily shallow.

Poppycock! That's some good scumhunting there bro.

In post 370, Infinity 324 wrote:You're implying here that scum would be careless enough to directly contradict themselves and town wouldn't, first of all, which doesn't seem true to me.

Whether or not it seems true to you has no bearing on whether or not it is true.

Again, this is behavior that will come from scum or bad-town. If you just write everything off as "well town can act scummy" (and YES contradictions ARE scummy) then you're not gonna be hanging much scum.

In post 370, Infinity 324 wrote:I'll let smart explain his side of it, but I don't think it's a contradiction at all tbh.

So basically you're saying that it isn't a contradiction but even it was, it wouldn't be scummy?

holy shit.
first off, what he obviously meant there was you stating town couldnt do it. no, town can contradict themselves, they are human and their opinions CAN change over time. emphasis on can, the point you are bringing is merely moot as it can be done by careless scum and careless town alike. scumtry to be townread aswell, they dont just sit there and do scummy things, they watch out for it too. it doesnt indicate either alignment and it isnt writing it off as anything. its just something that can kickstart a discussion from there. By itself, scummy it might be, but not enough to convict.
Secondly, if there is a good explanation behind anything then we need to hear it before makinh conclusions about what is scummy or not.

thats all. gnight

In post 381, Zachstralkita wrote:

In post 377, Gamma Emerald wrote:Meh I think Creature feels a bit lynchbaity.

Looks like whiteknighting

HAHAHahahah

In post 383, Donempire wrote:

In post 376, Infinity 324 wrote:How about creature

what about him

He could be a good target for voting

holy shit.
first off, what he obviously meant there was you stating town couldnt do it. no, town can contradict themselves, they are human and their opinions CAN change over time. emphasis on can, the point you are bringing is merely moot as it can be done by careless scum and careless town alike. scumtry to be townread aswell, they dont just sit there and do scummy things, they watch out for it too. it doesnt indicate either alignment and it isnt writing it off as anything. its just something that can kickstart a discussion from there. By itself, scummy it might be, but not enough to convict.
Secondly, if there is a good explanation behind anything then we need to hear it before makinh conclusions about what is scummy or not.

thats all. gnight

I like you.

This makes me want to townread you but that would be dumb. So I won't.

In post 383, Donempire wrote:

In post 330, JarJarDrinks wrote:

In post 329, Donempire wrote:btw ur reads arent good, so keep the bragging for when you are sure

Got any specifics ones u disagree w/?

Sure. Whats your reads list?

Why would you need my readslist? You said my reads aren't good. Did you just say that for no reason?

In post 383, Donempire wrote:The "ur town so i wont discuss my playstyle" part. it doesnt make sense to me why you would bring up the "ur town" part, cos i dont know why you would want to discuss it with him if you thought he was scum. i didnt get what tf you meant, tldr.

Cause town arguing w/ town is pointless. If I was leaning scum, I'd continue to argue to gauge his reactions.

In post 383, Donempire wrote:holy shit.
first off, what he obviously meant there was you stating town couldnt do it. no, town can contradict themselves, they are human and their opinions CAN change over time. emphasis on can, the point you are bringing is merely moot as it can be done by careless scum and careless town alike. scumtry to be townread aswell, they dont just sit there and do scummy things, they watch out for it too. it doesnt indicate either alignment and it isnt writing it off as anything. its just something that can kickstart a discussion from there. By itself, scummy it might be, but not enough to convict.
Secondly, if there is a good explanation behind anything then we need to hear it before makinh conclusions about what is scummy or not.

He was wrong and you're wrong here.

contradictions, making bad reads, lurking, shitposting, etc...

All things that are scummy. Also all things that can come from town or scum. Just because scum or town can both do things doesn't mean they aren't AI. It just means that you shouldn't base an entire read off of them.

I'm not saying that any of these things means someone is confirmed scum. But it's day 1 and I'm certainly gonna scumread people for em when there's not much else to go on.

Putting aside the argument about whether or not those things are AI, they are objectively shallow reasoning. Even for d1, the game is 16 pages. You can come up with better reasons than that, even if it's just "is this contradiction/lurking/bad reads/shitposting scummy in this particular case"

I love wallposting

Can I scumread Dong for saying that my reads are bad and then asking me what my reads are or is that shallow too?

I was going to say no, but you have a point.

In post 381, Zachstralkita wrote:

In post 377, Gamma Emerald wrote:Meh I think Creature feels a bit lynchbaity.

Looks like whiteknighting

Whatever. That's your opinion.

In post 386, JarJarDrinks wrote:

In post 383, Donempire wrote:

In post 330, JarJarDrinks wrote:

In post 329, Donempire wrote:btw ur reads arent good, so keep the bragging for when you are sure

Got any specifics ones u disagree w/?

Sure. Whats your reads list?

Why would you need my readslist? You said my reads aren't good. Did you just say that for no reason?

i said that so i could copy paste your readslist and say i disagree woth all of them. party crasher.

In post 383, Donempire wrote:The "ur town so i wont discuss my playstyle" part. it doesnt make sense to me why you would bring up the "ur town" part, cos i dont know why you would want to discuss it with him if you thought he was scum. i didnt get what tf you meant, tldr.

Cause town arguing w/ town is pointless. If I was leaning scum, I'd continue to argue to gauge his reactions.

what
when was discussion pointless again

In post 383, Donempire wrote:holy shit.
first off, what he obviously meant there was you stating town couldnt do it. no, town can contradict themselves, they are human and their opinions CAN change over time. emphasis on can, the point you are bringing is merely moot as it can be done by careless scum and careless town alike. scumtry to be townread aswell, they dont just sit there and do scummy things, they watch out for it too. it doesnt indicate either alignment and it isnt writing it off as anything. its just something that can kickstart a discussion from there. By itself, scummy it might be, but not enough to convict.
Secondly, if there is a good explanation behind anything then we need to hear it before makinh conclusions about what is scummy or not.

He was wrong and you're wrong here.

contradictions, making bad reads, lurking, shitposting, etc...

All things that are scummy. Also all things that can come from town or scum. Just because scum or town can both do things doesn't mean they aren't AI. It just means that you shouldn't base an entire read off of them.

I'm not saying that any of these things means someone is confirmed scum. But it's day 1 and I'm certainly gonna scumread people for em when there's not much else to go on.

lol did you read what i posted
thats the exact same thing im pushing

In post 391, Gamma Emerald wrote: Whatever. That's your opinion.

Looks like whiteknighting

In post 385, Infinity 324 wrote:
I like you.

This makes me want to townread you but that would be dumb. So I won't.

I do not like this statement from the infinite one

In post 392, Donempire wrote:i said that so i could copy paste your readslist and say i disagree woth all of them. party crasher.

Sounds like a BS excuse.

In post 393, Zachstralkita wrote:

In post 391, Gamma Emerald wrote: Whatever. That's your opinion.

Looks like whiteknighting

Whiteknighting who?