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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:21 pm
by RadiantCowbells
maybe u underestimate sky

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:22 pm
by BNL
VC 1.8Performer (2): Dunnstral, Skygazer
Dunnstral (2): schadd_, Eragon
Eragon (2): Wh4t, northsidegal
Carcalilly (1): Performer
Skygazer (1): RadiantCowbells
Wh4t (1): Carcalilly

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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:24 pm
by Wh4t
On a scale from "probs scum" to "doubt = zero" where are you on that read RC?

Pedit ew Carcalilly lol.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:25 pm
by Skygazer
In post 375, RadiantCowbells wrote:maybe u underestimate sky
so what ur saying is,,, i should be lynched because im potentially a dangerous scum player?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:28 pm
by RadiantCowbells
no you should be lynched because you're scum

you being a potentially dangerous scum player isn't teh reason ur scum

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:30 pm
by schadd_
In post 374, Wh4t wrote:
In post 372, schadd_ wrote:wh4t (?) said something like "schadd has done reaction testing but hasnt taken stances" but i contend that i have done like no actual reaction tests and have taken several stances
You have two stances.

1. Dunnstral 5 posted so is scum
2. You like saying hi to NSG

Did I miss anything out? :P

You seem flip floppy on sky, what's your read there?
said nsg was town

sorry i think some of my thoughts were more implicit than i thought but while talking to rc i am working under an assumption that he is town and that i'm like,, following his gamesolving if that make sense. i think i said i wanted to flip dunn carca and performer but idk if i'm as sold on those...

sky seemed town from some like predicty game thoughts (idr and not looking right now. seemed like she was thinking thru meta well) but not convincingly and rc sring her makes me ok with throwing that away

i think performer is kinda town, carca isn't convincingly either align

i have 2 do mathe houmewourk

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:30 pm
by schadd_
still interested in flipping dunnie personally...

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:31 pm
by schadd_
like im thinking if its dunn and skygazer then rc and i high five and then retire from mafia forever knowing we did a good job as a team

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:33 pm
by northsidegal
In post 373, Wh4t wrote:I think it would be unusual for scum to things like "why are you surface reading x's post when the intent is clear"
i think perhaps you might be missing the full context of that interaction

skygazer expressed intention to quickhammer dunnstral if he reached L-1 despite already being on the wagon. that was what she was referencing when she said "taking that point at face value"
In post 121, Eragon wrote:wolfy.
why the hell would you want to quick hammer this early?
claiming that you will just gives you the space to not get lynched tommorow if you do and Dunn flips town.
Why are you taking that post at face value when I was already voting for Dunn?


although maybe you were fully aware of that and were still making that point, which i would find strange

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:34 pm
by schadd_
ok i kind of see sky scum due to some considerations i'm missing from her that i would b expecting but like i have specifically identified that in the past as a standard i only hold ppl to when i already want to scumread them so i'm leaving that be

i have 2 do maetthe hoouhmwveourcke

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:38 pm
by Wh4t
VOTE: skygazer

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:40 pm
by Skygazer
@RC: does me flipping town change your performer read at all?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:41 pm
by RadiantCowbells
no

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:46 pm
by Skygazer
In post 219, Skygazer wrote:why do you feel the need to explain why your reads are typically all over the place early on?
it's interesting to me that after i asked this question RC went from hard scumreading performer to townreading them and in fact clearing them and others in a way that would point towards me being most likely scum

im interested to see if it's because RC is scum and wanted to go after me after questioning him or if he thinks im so likely to be scum that he's clearing performer on associations

and RC went ahead and just answered that second one for me so

RC, why are you townreading performer?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:52 pm
by RadiantCowbells
because you're scum with eragon

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:57 pm
by RadiantCowbells
and you have to call me scum at this point because you lose in every other world besides lynching me today.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:04 pm
by RadiantCowbells
and the idea that I cleared people to call you scum is laughable, NSG is someone who I autoclear and Performer is someone who several agreed was town at about the same time.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:05 pm
by Skygazer
I've seen town-RC be willing to keep his reads close to the chest but like not to this extreme

all these changing reads seem super convenient and honestly it feels like he's setting up a mislynch on me and then the rest of his PoE pool feels like potential lynchbait that's super easy to push

like look at how he goes from TRing to SRing to TRing to SRing era

and then he goes and starts to waiver on his nsg read

he clears performer because ???

and like from what i've seen from Wh4t so far I have no idea why he's not looking into that slot rn

I've seen RC do a lot of these reaction-testy pushes but honestly the way this is super extended and still unreasoned is giving me rlly bad vibes

VOTE: RC

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:06 pm
by Skygazer
In post 391, RadiantCowbells wrote:Performer is someone who several agreed was town at about the same time.
so ur clearing ur previously biggest scumread because other people say so?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:08 pm
by Skygazer
In post 390, RadiantCowbells wrote:and you have to call me scum at this point because you lose in every other world besides lynching me today.
nah i'm good at getting votes off of me and townspewing as scum

im not gonna 1v1 a huge threat to me as scum if i were in a losing position like you think i'm in

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:09 pm
by Wh4t
VOTE: RC :(

I just don't believe you my bro. Your overconfidence does seem agenda driven.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:20 pm
by RadiantCowbells
VOTE: RC

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:40 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i've caught both scum, if you don't lynch them when I'm gone you're outright gamethrowing.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:44 pm
by RadiantCowbells
that's enough actually playing the game for me
let's discuss how I can have 155 posts of trying to solve the game and working through reads and I can still be scumread at this point in the game (by wh4t, I know Skygazer is scum) literally no one else ever gets scumread here. LLD doesn't get scumread here. FA doesn't get scumread here. No MU player, not their best as scum get scumread here. But when I do it? nah I'm still scum.

I have strong reads I believe in? scum with an agenda. I don't have strong reads? scum lurking. I have reads that are right? scum bussing. reads wrong? scum pushing mislynches.

but in the end it doesn't matter what I do at least one person is going to scumread me and if I get reads good enough to threaten scum, it doesn't matter because a bunch of stupid fucks who would never correctly scumread me a day in their lives will mislynch me with them and blame me because they clearly have something broken upstairs.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:46 pm
by RadiantCowbells
VOTE: wh4t

you're the problem here, not the actual scum, sorry.