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In post 167, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 162, Thor665 wrote:

In post 151, Gamma Emerald wrote:I thought it was passing the buck a bit.

Who has ever, as scum, passed the buck in RVS? I'd love to see an example of that ever.

In post 154, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh wait it’s the inverse
Why do you expect scum!me to be more active than town!me Thor?

My general experience and opinion of your play.
Are you claiming I'm wrong?

I don’t know any specific examples but I think I vaguely remember ver some instance of the passing the buck thing

re: meta Scumread, I’d say your meta was right if you had played with me recently, but our last game together was Newbie 1836, which was before my meta shift, so your evidence is wrong despite having a valid thought process. I don’t recall rolling scum in a game with you in it even.

Alright thor

Is this the post where gamma admits that your meta of him is correct? Because he just says your thought processes are valid. When he says your evidence is wrong, that's basically saying they aren't sound. You need both soundness and validity to be correct.

In post 273, Gamma Emerald wrote:I felt like it could be a thing because it made sense as a possible intent.

If you were currrent with me, I wouldn’t question your meta on me since it is right. But since you’re not, I perceive that you are making a faulty argument. I don’t trust you using outdated yet incorrect meta to form a scumread on me, even if it is correct meta nowadays.

This post removes any sense of ambiguity that gamma could be conceding that you're correct with exception to the meta you have no right to try and case someone with anyway.

And again, if gamma is scum, you should be able to knock the ace attorney shit off and find scum tells outside of this meta argument.

Actually, my 376 is wrong.

Its " you have correct meta"

Also of note is that there is no counterwagon to this gamma nonsense

In post 379, Flubbernugget wrote:Also of note is that there is no counterwagon to this gamma nonsense

Yes there is.

Don't blame Thor just because your chosen push is not going as well.

In post 380, shortaru wrote:

In post 379, Flubbernugget wrote:Also of note is that there is no counterwagon to this gamma nonsense

Yes there is.

Don't blame Thor just because your chosen push is not going as well.

Uhhh, it's not blaming anything?

Its saying scum usually try to direct the town to a new wagon when one of their buddies are in danger. Which isnt happening here. Can you tell me why that is?

In post 382, Flubbernugget wrote:

In post 380, shortaru wrote:

In post 379, Flubbernugget wrote:Also of note is that there is no counterwagon to this gamma nonsense

Yes there is.

Don't blame Thor just because your chosen push is not going as well.

Uhhh, it's not blaming anything?

Its saying scum usually try to direct the town to a new wagon when one of their buddies are in danger. Which isnt happening here. Can you tell me why that is?

There are two wagons. Your chosen wagon not having as many votes as Gamma doesn't mean it isn't a wagon.

In fact, Fuwa Fuwa Time didn't even have votes until Gamma's wagon started, so you're just dead wrong all the way around.

You can literally iso the mod and see you're dead wrong in under 30s.

In post 156, Performer wrote:

Votecount 1.02

shortaru (5): Flubbernugget, Akarin, Carcalilly, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald
Carcalilly: BBmolla
SirCakez: Wisdom
Fuwa Fuwa Time :
Gamma Emerald (2): ThoseInCharge, Thor665
Thor665 (2): Fuwa Fuwa Time, shortaru
Celestial Coordinates:
ThoseInCharge:
Flubbernugget:
Creature:
BBmolla:
Wisdom:
Akarin:


Not voting (2): Celestial Coordinates, Creature
No lynch: no one
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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Gamma wagon behind here. Note zero votes on Fuwa Fuwa Time...

First vote on Fuwa Fuwa Time:

In post 199, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: fuwa fuwa time

Naked as a stripper at Little Darlings.

If Gamma flips red, Flubber needs wagoned next.

In post 52, Performer wrote:

Votecount 1.01

shortaru: Flubbernugget
Carcalilly: BBmolla, shortaru
SirCakez: Wisdom
Fuwa Fuwa Time (2): Gamma Emerald, Akarin
ThoseInCharge: SirCakez
Gamma Emerald: ThoseInCharge
Thor665: Fuwa Fuwa Time


Not voting (3): Thor665, Celestial Coordinates, Creature
No lynch: no one
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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Unless you're arguing that rvs doesnt count but that's how the gamma wagon started too

In post 387, Flubbernugget wrote:

In post 52, Performer wrote:

Votecount 1.01

shortaru: Flubbernugget
Carcalilly: BBmolla, shortaru
SirCakez: Wisdom
Fuwa Fuwa Time (2): Gamma Emerald, Akarin
ThoseInCharge: SirCakez
Gamma Emerald: ThoseInCharge
Thor665: Fuwa Fuwa Time


Not voting (3): Thor665, Celestial Coordinates, Creature
No lynch: no one
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on (expired on 2018-11-07 16:12:53)


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Unless you're arguing that rvs doesnt count but that's how the gamma wagon started too

Those votes were gone when Gamma's wagon started. As I illustrated.

You started Fuwa's wagon back up with a naked vote. Now you're saying Gamma is the only one with a wagon which is demonstrably untrue.

I'll give you that rvs isnt the most telling, but saying the that the votes initially moved from FFT to gamma and cant come back points to gamma being town.

More importantly, a lot of people are jumping on it off of Thor's word which is incredibly suspicious.

What exactly is your read on FFT?

Depends on Gamma's flip.

If red, he's probably town and you're scum wagoning him to defend Gamma.

Do you have any comments on why I think Thor's push is bad?

You dont like the cw theory.

I still have issue with how I think thor is twisting gamma's words into a narrative, and the fact that this seems to be the only way thor can push gamma as scum.

My theory is that you are defending your buddy, because I understand perfectly clearly where Thor is coming from and you seem to be attempting to obfuscate his case.

UNVOTE:

hmm

In post 394, Carcalilly wrote:UNVOTE:

hmm

What are your reads?

In post 380, shortaru wrote:

In post 379, Flubbernugget wrote:Also of note is that there is no counterwagon to this gamma nonsense

Yes there is.

Don't blame Thor just because your chosen push is not going as well.

Excuse me? Flubber was towncasing me, where do you get “blaming Thor” from that?

In post 386, shortaru wrote:

In post 156, Performer wrote:

Votecount 1.02

shortaru (5): Flubbernugget, Akarin, Carcalilly, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald
Carcalilly: BBmolla
SirCakez: Wisdom
Fuwa Fuwa Time :
Gamma Emerald (2): ThoseInCharge, Thor665
Thor665 (2): Fuwa Fuwa Time, shortaru
Celestial Coordinates:
ThoseInCharge:
Flubbernugget:
Creature:
BBmolla:
Wisdom:
Akarin:


Not voting (2): Celestial Coordinates, Creature
No lynch: no one
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on (expired on 2018-11-07 16:12:53)


Moderator notes: did you know? Hundreds of years ago, people waited for weeks for letters from families and friends. Today, we can get and send messages instantly.
Source - easyscienceforkids.com

Please see "events" part of post 1 for more information.

Gamma wagon behind here. Note zero votes on Fuwa Fuwa Time...

First vote on Fuwa Fuwa Time:

In post 199, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: fuwa fuwa time

Naked as a stripper at Little Darlings.

If Gamma flips red, Flubber needs wagoned next.

Is my name shortaru? Cos it looks like THAT is the leading wagon here.

In post 397, Gamma Emerald wrote:Is my name shortaru? Cos it looks like THAT is the leading wagon here.

Doesn't change the fact your wagon was started before Fuwa's.

In post 373, Gamma Emerald wrote:What raised issue?

The case on you raised by me and the primary focus of conversation for the last few pages. I can get you being dismissive of it - but why waste my time pretending it doesn't exist?

In post 375, Flubbernugget wrote:

In post 167, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 162, Thor665 wrote:

In post 151, Gamma Emerald wrote:I thought it was passing the buck a bit.

Who has ever, as scum, passed the buck in RVS? I'd love to see an example of that ever.

In post 154, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh wait it’s the inverse
Why do you expect scum!me to be more active than town!me Thor?

My general experience and opinion of your play.
Are you claiming I'm wrong?

I don’t know any specific examples but I think I vaguely remember ver some instance of the passing the buck thing

re: meta Scumread,

I’d say your meta was right if you had played with me recently, but our last game together was Newbie 1836, which was before my meta shift

, so your evidence is wrong despite having a valid thought process. I don’t recall rolling scum in a game with you in it even.

Alright thor

Is this the post where gamma admits that your meta of him is correct? Because he just says your thought processes are valid. When he says your evidence is wrong, that's basically saying they aren't sound. You need both soundness and validity to be correct.

With an awareness that the bolded is, functionally, a lie in his dismissal of my ability to read him, and also is a straight admission of me being right in the meta - how do you get to the conclusion you are presenting?

In post 376, Flubbernugget wrote:

In post 273, Gamma Emerald wrote:I felt like it could be a thing because it made sense as a possible intent.

If you were currrent with me, I wouldn’t question your meta on me

since it is right. But since you’re not, I perceive that you are making a faulty argument.

I don’t trust you using outdated yet incorrect meta to form a scumread on me, even if it is correct meta nowadays

.

This post removes any sense of ambiguity that gamma could be conceding that you're correct with exception to the meta you have no right to try and case someone with anyway.

What he's saying here is that I'm using old meta. Which I'm not and he knows I'm not.
He's also admitting I'm right about his current meta presuming I know his current meta - which I do.
What are you talking about Flubber?
Did you read my timeline breakdown of the Gamma v. Thor interactions?
I feel like I'm talking to a wall right now, please interact with me about this - I'm dead right and you're arguing sideways from me as far as I can see.