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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:08 pm
by Almost50
@Oka: OK.
VOTE: Koki
I will reiterate though that I'm not able to develop any reads of my own regarding Koki in particular, never pegged him correctly even once, and even indirectly got him lynched as a claimed PR and my own neighbour bc I couldn't decipher his play in early game and when I finally got it it was too late and the town didn't listen to me.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:09 pm
by DVa
unfortunately the game I'm thinking of I was dead before I was actually asked my townreads, but in Boundaries of Reality I correctly townread Gamma Emerald and Hebichan by page 2 based on RVS interactions. But the iso there won't prove my point so I guess I'll have to concede I can't prove my early *stated* reads, as town, tend to be correct.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:10 pm
by Joey_
In post 375, Almost50 wrote:@Oka: OK.
VOTE: Koki
I will reiterate though that I'm not able to develop any reads of my own regarding Koki in particular, never pegged him correctly even once, and even indirectly got him lynched as a claimed PR and my own neighbour bc I couldn't decipher his play in early game and when I finally got it it was too late and the town didn't listen to me.
Then why do you even vote him?
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:10 pm
by Almost50
In post 371, DrDolittle wrote:unless you think seph-scum is blatant on not providing content early game, your strongest town read is also unjustified. + that would make him a shitty scum player.
Well, then I have no TRs and no SRs. Just 12 shades of grey!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:11 pm
by OkaPoka
fun fact: if i townread everyone, most of the time ill be correct, so yeah. there is that.
@everyone who has played with kokichi and has a fair grasp on his meta, is joey right that kokichi becomes obv town as town? im not an expert on his meta so
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:13 pm
by Joey_
In post 379, OkaPoka wrote:fun fact: if i townread everyone, most of the time ill be correct, so yeah. there is that.
@everyone who has played with kokichi and has a fair grasp on his meta, is joey right that kokichi becomes obv town as town? im not an expert on his meta so
Not obv as town, but they eventually gives enough content to be read correctly by most. I, personally can read him quite correctly and I don't recall ever being wrong on him for all our games together (at least 4-5 games). So if you think im town, give me to chance to read him correctly and step back
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:15 pm
by Almost50
In post 377, Joey_ wrote: In post 375, Almost50 wrote:@Oka: OK.
VOTE: Koki
I will reiterate though that I'm not able to develop any reads of my own regarding Koki in particular, never pegged him correctly even once, and even indirectly got him lynched as a claimed PR and my own neighbour bc I couldn't decipher his play in early game and when I finally got it it was too late and the town didn't listen to me.
Then why do you even vote him?
I voted DrD to get content and I did. I switched to BEF and DVa reminded me early pressure on him might not yield the desired result. Oka offered an alternative in Koki, someone I'm never able to read on my own, so maybe with a little pressure and others helping we can get something out of it. You said you can read him later on, so let's move on to "later on" and see if you think he;s town or scum.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:19 pm
by Joey_
You vote him so others (myself included) can read him. Im telling you i dont need said pressure to read him correctly and if anything, it might skew his judgment and his reads. And FTR, I fake claimed mason with him more than once because I hard townread his ass and he was being pushed on so trust me on that one
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:23 pm
by OkaPoka
VOTE: gamma emerald
@a50 yo join me over here
I think this is the right play. Gamma's interactions and questions are very surface level, checking his iso he does a lot of "positive" posting rather than trying to elevate discussion by contradicting. Has no real scumreads yet which is kinda weird, his jump on DrDolittle is kinda weak because he did a posture post that doesn't really make sense? Thinking that he is just showing up to say a few words and then checking out, letting the rest of us talk it out, as opposed to genuinely gamesolving. Still think kokichi is scum, but I'll switch for now.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:33 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Thanks for unvoting me guys, I was getting scared!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:34 pm
by Almost50
In post 382, Joey_ wrote:You vote him so others (myself included) can read him. Im telling you i dont need said pressure to read him correctly and if anything, it might skew his judgment and his reads. And FTR, I fake claimed mason with him more than once because I hard townread his ass and he was being pushed on so trust me on that one
Oh, FGS. I hate leaving my vote idle as I go to sleep. Is PP a good voting target? How about Tchill? Although I think I saw more than one vote on Tchill and he is already active enough, so I don't want to put him in lynching zone just yet.
VOTE: Penguin
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:34 pm
by Almost50
here come the hotstepper!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:34 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 359, Joey_ wrote:Dva can you elaborate about puffyfish imploding when pressurized
Try it and find out.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:35 pm
by Joey_
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:35 pm
by Joey_
@a50 get your vote on here, im curious
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:35 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Joey is town, don't forget that.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 pm
by BrightEyedFish
Good morning, how can I be of assistance?
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:36 pm
by Almost50
@Oka: Nah. For one thing I'm still hopeful I can read Gamma. For another, he does this as both alignments, so it's NAI for him. Granted I dunno what exactly IS AI for him nowadays, but I know this is him being himself.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:37 pm
by Joey_
Can you elaborate yourself about how "you implode" when pressurized
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 393, Joey_ wrote:
Can you elaborate yourself about how "you implode" when pressurized
I think thats a reference to an ongoing game and I can't say anything about that.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 pm
by OkaPoka
@BES, Catch up and comment on everything that you find is important + gamestate
@a50, okay ive only played with him once (where he replaced into a town slot) and he was more active and gamesolvey than this tho. might because there was more content to work with but i mean still, its not like he is incapable of trying to scum hunt.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 pm
by Almost50
Not after I got reminded of "the thing", mate. And trust me, you don't want to know. I mean if he's scum, fine, but if he's town he has the capacity to ruin us.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:40 pm
by Joey_
lol, ill do my hws because "the thing" looks juicy
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:43 pm
by Almost50
@Oka: I played Gamma over a dozen times already, and I even played him once where he didn't know it was me (I was on an alt that wasn't yet outed). I used nto know how to read him well, but then he changed his play style a little (allegedly he is less active now as town than he used to be), and it's confusing me some. I know pressuring him with a wagon won't help me read him though. He and I both know I have a way to read him still, but no opportunity has presented itself for me to apply that yet.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:43 pm
by DVa
BEF what's your reads of PenguinGifs, Gammachan, and Neegan?