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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:04 pm
by Auro
: Ariane, volxen
: snowbeast
: Not_Mafia
: Flavor Leaf
: YurikoJasmine
lionheart1492, Auro, Lamees
You may have a hard time interpreting my meta, but I'm very comfortable using certain kinds of meta.
1. "X has done Y as town -> X doing Y is NAI"
2. "X has done Y as scum -> X doing Y is scum"
Both my 'meta-based actions' have been the *first* kind, which is reliable enough to narrow down on a D1 lynch.
Ah, your 'copying town meta' isn't the Lion townread alone, I figure from your general posting this game. A non-case anyway ATM, if someone actually objectively lays it down, it'll hold more wait.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:09 pm
by Auro
In post 266, Auro wrote:Also, let me flip this on you, since you seem to be intent on sorting out my slot.
1. You asked me about FL's sheep, and I answered.
2. You asked me about my thoughts on Lion's case, and I responded saying that I think that may affect interactions.
3. You disagreed that I would voice my thoughts on a case the same regardless of alignment, and I explained that it was *my* belief, and it's not as relevant anyway WRT the content I'm producing overall.
4. You thought I was discarding Not_Mafia as a lynch altogether and only relying on investigatives; I clarified that suggesting that investigatives target him doesn't imply he's never a lynch option.
5. You asked me why I pointed out scummy Lamees plays but refused to vote for her, and I justified that.
6. You asked why I'm not trying to pressure Lamees, and I explained why.
Your vote's still on me, so I get a feeling you're either refusing to revise your stance on my slot, OR that you think my responses are insufficient. If it's the latter, feel free to engage me further on the relevant point(s).
7. You disputed my reasons for 4|5, I justified them.
8. You asked me about my thoughts on FL, and I answered.
Add the above to the list. Now, use these numbers and show me what exactly makes you scumread me that highly.
Calling out your engagement for not being honest is not me "throwing shade". You have had opportunity to start engaging honestly.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:22 pm
by volxen
@mod With the deadline for day one quickly approaching, is it possible to get a 24 or 48 hour extension to the deadline in light of the Thankgiving holiday? I know extensions are not usually granted except for in extreme situations, but I thought I would at least ask.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:25 pm
by Auro
I would +1 for that extension, also because of Yuriko's slot.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:55 pm
by lionheart1492
At this point I'm for lynching someone tonight and not having to bother with the game tomorrow but an extension could also work I guess.
Also auro I'm looking for an avi lol
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:07 pm
by Lamees
I am 100% against the extension.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:09 pm
by Ariane
hmm might see yr points, will have a thorough read later
also cos if my two main trs agree on scum /town reads I wanna consider it more
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:12 pm
by Auro
In post 295, Lamees wrote:I don't see it happening within the next 2 days
. We would need around 5 townies on 1 wagon to lynch scum. And only 3 townies on 1 wagon to lynch a town.
If the auro wagon breaks down,
0 chance to lynch scum in 2 days
, will be a no lynch or miss lynch.
In post 297, Lamees wrote: In post 296, Auro wrote:@Not_Mafia, if not Yuriko, who else do you think is a good lynch today?
@Lamees: Not at all. I'm ready to vote with Not_Mafia and Ariane (both TRs for me at this point). I believe Volxen should change his read on me by now, and should join in. I don't think Flavor Leaf is going to continue voting for me either without a good case -- if he's casing, I'm ready to hear.
It'll be a miss lynch then. Guarantee it.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pm
by Lamees
Extension clearly favours town in this position. I want a fair game.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:16 pm
by Auro
1. Yuriko's absence favors scum.
2. People not able to participate due to Thanksgiving favors scum.
A one-day extension can balance this.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:17 pm
by Lamees
Those are not mod interference.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:19 pm
by Auro
At least the second is an external factor that's influencing the game, mod has full rights to interfere and balance that.
Volxen needs a chance at also hearing FL's case against him, and defending himself.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:22 pm
by Lamees
I don't see what the problem is. FL has been responding and has been here. He made his case maybe?
Imagine someone suggesting the day 1 be cut to 5 days because there are very active and strong town players. Would that be ok with you? Even when the game said 10 days.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:25 pm
by Auro
FL hasn't made his case yet.
That wouldn't be okay. But if *at least* 2 players are unable to participate because of a common, important external factor, it's justified that they get an extra day.
If it was Volxen asking for an extension for personal reasons, unreasonable. Anyway, this ain't my argument
Whatever the mod wishes.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:29 pm
by Lamees
I think we should try to lynch soon regardless of what the mod decides.
Any idea what the vote count is?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:29 pm
by Lamees
Anyone L-2?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:32 pm
by MiniDeathStar
Announcement
Extension will be granted if
YurikoJasmine
flakes.
Otherwise I'll talk to my backup mod about it.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:57 pm
by snowbeast
Please can somebody explain to me what "meta" is.
not knowing has made the last two pages make no sense
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:30 pm
by Lamees
In post 392, snowbeast wrote:Please can somebody explain to me what "meta" is.
not knowing has made the last two pages make no sense
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Meta
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:06 pm
by snowbeast
thank you
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:55 pm
by MiniDeathStar
Announcement
YurikoJasmine
has requested replacement. Deadline will be extended by 24 hours.
The new vote count will reflect both changes.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:12 pm
by Auro
In post 389, Lamees wrote:I think we should try to lynch soon regardless of what the mod decides.
Waiting for FL's own case on Volxen, Ariane to post her thoughts, Volxen to offer a defense.
I'm not voting prematurely because we have multiple slots willing to sheep.
If you're trying TWTBAW "scum will more likely pounce on me" tactics, that's not gonna work. If you're town, you're painting yourself as a *valid* target, scum might just sit back and let the lynch happen.
@FL: Why don't you think scum!Lamees wouldn't do what she's doing so far? Is deep tunneling, LAMEEST, seeking to bum-rush a... lunch, beyond her scumgame? Don't you think her anti-town behaviour should not be encouraged?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:21 am
by Lamees
In post 396, Auro wrote: In post 389, Lamees wrote:I think we should try to lynch soon regardless of what the mod decides.
Waiting for FL's own case on Volxen, Ariane to post her thoughts, Volxen to offer a defense.
I'm not voting prematurely because we have multiple slots willing to sheep.
If you're trying TWTBAW "scum will more likely pounce on me" tactics, that's not gonna work. If you're town, you're painting yourself as a *valid* target, scum might just sit back and let the lynch happen.
@FL: Why don't you think scum!Lamees wouldn't do what she's doing so far? Is deep tunneling, LAMEEST, seeking to bum-rush a... lunch, beyond her scumgame? Don't you think her anti-town behaviour should not be encouraged?
I don't follow. How does post 389 mean I'm trying TWTBAW(whatever that means). Actually how do you get any of that second part of your post from 389?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:27 am
by Auro
I don't mean you're doing that in 389, just a lot of recent behaviour of yours.
"I will take full responsibility"
"We should lynch soon regardless of extension" after "With only 2 days it's a guaranteed mislynch"
"That's the scummiest play in history"
Blah blah
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:55 am
by Lamees
I don't quite follow.
We SHOULD lynch soon regardless of extension. How am I scum for saying that? And I will take full responsibility for your lynch. And there is a high chance we miss lynch today.
Are you low key trying to throw shade here? Calling me anti town lol. I am just stating the obvious. I don't see how that benefits or harms town.
Btw I have a pretty small history on the site so that wad actually the scummiest play I've seen in history. Sure maybe I'm exaggerating a bit. But you seem to attach "anti town" go every word I post.