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In post 371, Tchill13 wrote:

In post 273, Luca Blight wrote:I do agree that the Vort hammer felt kind of townie - after the self-vote I just assumed Azure was scum already, so I can understand quick-hammering there. Scum obviously would know she was flipping green and might have hesitated.

scum most likely hammer, chalk the wagon up to a stupid self voter and move along...

Scum want a flip to be green lol. Why would that cause hesitation????

Azure was going to be lynched regardless of Vorkuta’s vote. I could envisage scum hesitating in any important situation because generally scum play in a more calculated fashion.

I hate their music: Luca, Vork

I've never heard of them: Pmysterious, flubb, fallsoul

I'd go to a concert for free: skitter, Robb, Havo

I bought front row tickets: (still saving my money)

In post 372, Tchill13 wrote:

In post 315, Luca Blight wrote:Given that you think there is scum on the Azure wagon, which is what your vote on me is based on, he really ought to be a higher priority for you.

And could you not say the same about someone like Flubs?

These are the slots that needing sorting now, especially when we can't tell for sure when LYLO will be this game.

not a fan of luca pandering to my play specifically due to my meta.

Where am I doing this in the post you quoted?

I just dont subscribe to the "generally town/scum do" thought process.

I disregard it almost completely. I think Scum sees a free lynch regardless of position on the Azure wagon. d1 was a shit show.

In post 315, Luca Blight wrote:Given that you think there is scum on the Azure wagon, which is what your vote on me is based on, he really ought to be a higher priority for you.

And could you not say the same about someone like Flubs?

These are the slots that needing sorting now, especially when we can't tell for sure when LYLO will be this game.

you're pushing to to push 2 inactives.

you're putting me in a position where im either forced to work with you or you'll SR me.

A shit show that you were not blameless for.

I subscribe to what makes sense to me. I’m not sold on Vortuka being Town, but that was a small starting point in his favor. I don’t like how he’s played D2 play so far as I’ve said.

In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:

In post 315, Luca Blight wrote:Given that you think there is scum on the Azure wagon, which is what your vote on me is based on, he really ought to be a higher priority for you.

And could you not say the same about someone like Flubs?

These are the slots that needing sorting now, especially when we can't tell for sure when LYLO will be this game.

you're pushing to to push 2 inactives.

you're putting me in a position where im either forced to work with you or you'll SR me.

Half the players in this game are ‘inactive’.

I’m not forcing you to do anything, I just disagree with your approach: you’re sr’ing me because there
must be scum on the Azure wagon while deliberately not sorting certain players on said wagon.

Tchill, tell me more about your Havo read.

In post 361, skitter30 wrote:UNVOTE:
voteparking on someone who siteflaked probably isn't that helpful

i can vote vork i can think

i'm not really feeling the pm wagon rn
i kinda hate the way he's playing but i'm not sure it's actually scummy

I feel like PM is trying deliberately not to do anything scummy, which is scummy in itself.

If you're fine with voting Vork then why not do so?

In post 374, Tchill13 wrote:

In post 205, Vorkuta wrote:Is there a universe in which this shitfest subsides anytime soon and we can all get along better?
Because I can't read anyone right now, and I don't want to dig deeper in these interactions

In post 226, Vorkuta wrote:VOTE: azuresky

In post 272, Vorkuta wrote:Not gonna lie- the self vote partially did it for me. 50% knee-jerk

AtE

then feels the need to explain the vote. Not a fan.

Explaining a vote is a scummy thing to do?

And is there a particular reason why you're voting me over Vorkuta?

In post 353, Havo wrote:Well IDK. skitters ISO is very town to me.

Anything particular that sticks out?

Super interested in what pmysterious is going to have for reads

In post 351, Havo wrote:@Flub. If Vork is scum who’s most likely his partner?

What’s your reads on Tchill and Rob?

I don't really look for associations w/o flips.

Let me iso those two.

Tchill looks pretty town. I would have liked to have seen them do more than just two things D1 (azure placate & nom push) but I'm pretty sympathetic to why that isn't the case. They deff had a good effort to try and dig the game out of the situation it was in, and I believe them when they say they wouldn't do that as scum.

In post 383, Luca Blight wrote: I feel like PM is trying deliberately not to do anything scummy, which is scummy in itself.

When you get lynched constantly, wouldn't you want to be more cautious about what you say or do as well? There's not much that hasn't already been said, and like I mentioned, the Azure wagon is the only real thing to have happened on Day 1.

I might have some questions later on, but whatever the case may be, the reason I'm trying to be cautious, is because I am uncertain.

In post 389, PMysterious wrote:When you get lynched constantly, wouldn't you want to be more cautious about what you say or do as well

no not at all.

As town first you shouldn't worry about being lynched. townies get lynched all the time. Second, if you are being transparent about your reads and pushing them, you shouldn't be lynched for that. People usually get lynched cause they do scummy stuff and pushing scum reads for good reasons usually isn't looked at as scummy.

So for example, everything you are doing this game is nothing like what I just described and people see you as scummy looking because of that.


get it? don't be afraid to push scum reads. don't be afraid to vote cause you aren't locked in. Votes are also used for pressure.

Even if you are rusty, none of this has ever changed. I have trouble believing you don't already know this.

In post 338, Vorkuta wrote:{}
{Luca}
{skitter, HAvo, Tchill}
{Jigglypuff, soul, Flubber}
{Robb}

Some of these are "policy" reads but I hope that will change as the day goes along and they contribute something AI.

any chance you are going to explain any of these reads or actively do anything to pursue/sort them or are you just going to sit there doing nothing?

In post 376, Tchill13 wrote:I hate their music: Luca, Vork

I've never heard of them: Pmysterious, flubb, fallsoul

I'd go to a concert for free: skitter, Robb, Havo

I bought front row tickets: (still saving my money)

You wouldn't buy front row for mine?

shit I fucked that up lol

The majority of rob's play D1 was an azure tunnel which deff doesn't ring town. Town does tunnel too so it's not lockscum but I wouldn't have much concern if a wagon sprung up here.

That being said their D2 play looks a little better

We’ve played together multiple times, how can you say my tunneling isn’t town?

I have no memory of playing with you

I get confused a lot with fluminator fwiw

That meta works both ways though. Why is my activity grounds for putting me in your lynch pile?