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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:48 am
by Menalque
In post 374, Datisi wrote:
Lotus Aura has requested replacement. Searching...
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:58 am
by Atarashi Hajimari
In post 360, 72offsuit wrote:Only thing of note was Atarashi posting a reads list following my vote.
Ata gave me a slight town-vibe in earlier posts of the day, just the tone, moreso than content, but forgetting me in the reads list just felt weird, especially after I had just voted for you.

Almost as though !scum-Ata (the scenario whereby Ata rolled scum alignment), was wondering which category it would be convenient for them to lump me in with. And then im just lumped into the null section. Just seems odd to null read someone who has just voted someone.
What are you even talking about?

My reads list was post 355 (I think), and your vote on mena was, like 224 or something like that. You hadn't really done anything in the game when I posted my list so I forgot you were in the game LOL

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:59 am
by Atarashi Hajimari
Ebwop: my reads list was 314

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:13 am
by Datisi
EqsyLootz replaces Lotus Aura, awaiting confirmation.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:14 am
by Datisi
Official Vote Count 1.09With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching
Menalque
(2): Elmo TeH AzN, 72offsuit
Iconeum
(2): Doobietime, EqsyLootz
EqsyLootz
(1): Atarashi Hajimari
Elmo TeH AzN
(1): WizenedWalrus

Not Voting
(3): clidd, Menalque, Iconeum

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-03-15 01:30:00).

Mod notes:
  • EqsyLootz replaces Lotus Aura, awaiting confirmation.
  • Iconeum V/LA until Tuesday.
  • Elmo TeH AzN V/LA until Tuesday/Wednesday.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:49 am
by clidd
Im back.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:55 am
by clidd
In post 353, Menalque wrote:clidd, current take on 72 when you get here
Give me some minutes.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:13 am
by WizenedWalrus
In post 340, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 305, WizenedWalrus wrote:For the moment, I'll go with VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN: as others have pointed out, she seemed to get unduly flustered by Menalque's SR of her.
I know this is super early day 1, but this honestly feels like a bus-vote to me.

I'll vote Player X "for the moment" - a vote just for the record, but not for pressure - votes are meant to ramp up pressure on potential scum.
Basically forecasting that your vote has little oomph/intent behind it, gives me a scummy vibe.
I believe that my vote & explanation shows a level of intent appropriately reflecting the evidence that led me to cast it.

Now that you've said your current vote was only fishing for who would join that bandwagon, any reason for not unvoting or voting for someone else?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:20 am
by EqsyLootz
Alright. I'm here. Ill catch up in one second.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:42 am
by EqsyLootz
Okay, I'm caught up. Unfortuanately I don't know anyone's meta. I'll make a readlist in a while once I get more posts. I'll put effort into this list since I only need to read 8 people.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:44 am
by EqsyLootz
vote Unvote:


Yeah I don't understand Lotus's read. Unvoting for now.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:46 am
by EqsyLootz
UNVOTE: Iconeum

Wrong format

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:49 am
by EqsyLootz
In post 314, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Current reads:

TR - Ico, Mena
TL - cliff
Null - Elmo, Walrus
SL - doobie
SR - Lotus
I'm getting Town reads early here from Atarashi. Scum doesn't often put so much effort in readlists as he did. What's unfortuanate is how Lotus put myself in a Scum Read Slot. I'll save this slot hopefully

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:21 pm
by clidd
I made a short summary of my impressions about 72offsuit.

Spoiler:
Joined: December 28, 2019

First, I am considering three basic points of information about his profile:


1.
He has not completed any games as scum
-> That is, he has no experience in the role.

2.
His natural behavior is open, volatile sometimes and not very thoughtful before reacting to something
-> Same attitude shown in this game.

3.
He is, in fact, a newbie player and not an alt account.
-> So it is expected that in his first game as
scum
, he will not be able to maintain the same behavioral pattern of
town!72
.

Newbie 1984=
(https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=82005) |
Newbie 1977
(https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81730)

Now, on to the post analysis:

In post 13, 72offsuit wrote:Greetings Earthlings.

VOTE: Lotus

Anyone with such a peaceful name is surely a sheep in wolf''s clothing.
The first post seems to come from a calm perspective, which captures the first association observed and immediately turns it into a reaction. Something different from the scenario
scum!72
, as there would be extra care before making a premature consideration, keeping in mind that his biggest concern would be to emulate a genuine sensation, so that his intention was not questioned early in the day. Based on this, I imagine three possible actions in the reasoning
newbie!Scum:
1 -
Vote without adding a figurative explanation,
2 -
Vote in the '' Guilty Lion '', because the context of such vote would be safer and less socially questionable, or
3 -
Vote for me, aiming at materializing a possible simulation of fury / frustration with AtE index on my participation in this game (yes, he doesn't like me - but I can't go into details because it involves games in progress).

In post 14, 72offsuit wrote: Welcome doobie :)

It would be really great if you could find an image to have as an avatar.
It helps with player identification, especially later on when all the posts kind of meld into each other.
Just find a small image size on google, and in your user control panel, upload the image as your avatar.

If you are town, the best thing you can do is be active, but try and post meaningful posts where you are analysing others player's posts and trying to determine the motivation behind them.
Do they sound like mafia with the motive of going for an easy lynch of a helpless townie? Do they sound like they are a townie genuinely trying to poke and prod to solve the game?

If you are scum, I have a nice and comfy appropriately sized noose <3
The tone of this post reflects a tranquility of mind, different from what I imagine from the pressure imposed by a new experience, such as obtaining a role that completely changes your objective within the game. I believe that the assimilation present in his advices is fluid and characterized by a natural feeling that it is transmitting a recent / current individual experience. Suggestively, he unconsciously makes transparent the ease with which these ideas are articulated and passed on to the other player, showing no discomfort at any time. I believe that these elements are nutrients of a mentality more inclined to
green alignment
, in the sense of self confidence, than to the
red side
, where caution and fear would hinder emotional transparency in text.

In post 16, 72offsuit wrote: Wow, fail didnt see this post in my rush to post lol
The acceleration of his frequency of posts seems to be linked to his attention, considering that from the moment he observes something and makes a mental note, as he prepares to comment, there is no prior mental '' brake '' to consider all events that occurred before, indicating his lack of planning and coordination (considering that
scum!72
would have a partner, in theory, to guide him).

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:25 pm
by clidd
@Menalque


So, basically, I used emotional reads to determine my position in relation to his slot.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:45 pm
by clidd
In post 371, Doobietime wrote:
I don't understand how you're proven town?
I don't know how anything can be proven with not one single action having been taken.

Don't masons have to be extra careful? I mean, it's only a PR until one gets lynched or NK- I'm assuming they can't communicate in a PT after that? Aren't you guaranteed to be killed N1 at the latest after hardclaiming, so the scum can eliminate towns only advantage in a Mason game setup?
?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:48 pm
by clidd
In post 373, Iconeum wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 371, Doobietime wrote:
In post 342, 72offsuit wrote:
@Doobie:
If you thought it was a stupid point, why bring it up?
Because Iconeum's SE status leads me to believe they wouldn't give away their alignment in their first post, but if Ico turns out to be scum, that's exactly what happened. Stupid, because it would be an absolutely horrendous poor play, but still doesn't make what I said incomprehensible.

In post 368, Iconeum wrote:Sophie

If imscum then i am fakeclaiming

The absolute Optimal play for town power IS to counterclaim and lynh me

The trade IS in town benefit because the town power can effectivelu catch scum this way
I don't understand how you're proven town? I don't know how anything can be proven with not one single action having been taken.

Don't masons have to be extra careful? I mean, it's only a PR until one gets lynched or NK- I'm assuming they can't communicate in a PT after that? Aren't you guaranteed to be killed N1 at the latest after hardclaiming, so the scum can eliminate towns only advantage in a Mason game setup?

If this is how you scumread me, how re u townreading menal?
I have the same doubt.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:12 pm
by Atarashi Hajimari
@eqsy:

1. Whenever you have a chance can you get a profile avi? Helps us keep track of your posts and gives us a picture to associate with your stuff.
2. What's your experience with mafia, if any? You talk like you have previous experience.
3. How's that readlist coming along?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:21 pm
by EqsyLootz
In post 392, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:@eqsy:

1. Whenever you have a chance can you get a profile avi? Helps us keep track of your posts and gives us a picture to associate with your stuff.
2. What's your experience with mafia, if any? You talk like you have previous experience.
3. How's that readlist coming along?
1) Yeah sure. However small pixels are kinda annoying
2) My Expiriences with Mafia? I own my own Discord Mafia server. Played 20 Games of Discord Mafia. Played 6 Games of ToS FM. Know most terminology.
3) I said i'd do it in detail when I have the time. So expect it buy tomorrow

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:21 pm
by clidd
Atarashi Hajimari
, what is your read on
Doobie
now ?

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:37 pm
by 72offsuit
WalrusVOTE:

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:37 pm
by 72offsuit
VOTE: Walrus

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:46 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
I'm sorry guys. I really am. I just had a bombshell hit my life rather two. So sorry in advance.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:39 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 397, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:I'm sorry guys. I really am. I just had a bombshell hit my life rather two. So sorry in advance.
All good. All the best, hope things turn out alright for you.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:04 pm
by Atarashi Hajimari
In post 394, clidd wrote:
Atarashi Hajimari
, what is your read on
Doobie
now ?
Random question, does it get tiring color coding literally every post you make? I'd get annoyed with trying to keep it up real fast.

To answer your question though, I still dont really like the slot at all, but I'm admittedly having a bit of trouble getting past the newbie-esque feel to her posts to see if its newb-town or newb-scum. I think it's probably the latter, but I'm more confident that eqsy's slot is scum and, if so, doobie is almost certainly the second scum.
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