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In post 362, AaronFrost wrote:He's got a bunch of votes on him already and a lot of them feel very opportunistic. His play itself doesn't really warrant the scum reads in my opinion and the fact that so many are quick to jump and vote him here points towards him being town.

In post 372, bob3141 wrote:

In post 367, AaronFrost wrote:Loud Bodyguard seems like a dumb fake claim to fake honestly as that'll literally get disproven in a single night if it's false

i think last completed town game or second from last. The last scum alive claimed informed bodygaurd when voted to l-1 on day one. He later flipped 1 shot strongman

So if he was fake claiming why would he claim loud then? Loud tells the person he protects that they were visited by TSE so if no one got a message that they were visited by TSE then obviously his claim would be a lie.

In post 364, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I shouldn’t keep doing this but Nero is getting on my nerves.
“I didn’t even know I was being voted I just claimed it because the role suicides itself”

I actually don't really buy this.

VOTE: TSE

Hi

In post 375, AaronFrost wrote:He's got a bunch of votes on him already and a lot of them feel very opportunistic. His play itself doesn't really warrant the scum reads in my opinion and the fact that so many are quick to jump and vote him here points towards him being town.

I believe this has been mentioned already, but there are 37 town players in this game. I find it odd that you're getting town "feels" and a "gut" townread on TSE because... let's see, approximately 10(?) people have placed their vote on his wagon.
It doesn't really prove anything.

Two nights of actions he would have to claim honestly, with limited ability to move between targets. He's got to be loud, that makes no sense as a fakeclaim. Claiming BG makes no sense if he's rolecop/tracker or whatever and pretty questionable sense if he's a blocker. Maybe he's a scum protective, but then claiming limits his ability to protect buddies later. I think most likely sitch is he is town loud BG, second is he claimed honestly but is still scum. Third would be that he is something like a watcher.

Buying a couple of days in a fifty player game doesn't do much for scum.

In post 375, AaronFrost wrote:

@bob

In post 362, AaronFrost wrote:He's got a bunch of votes on him already and a lot of them feel very opportunistic. His play itself doesn't really warrant the scum reads in my opinion and the fact that so many are quick to jump and vote him here points towards him being town.

why is he more than null to you

You say his play doesnt warrant beign scum read.

One what about his play means you dont get why players scum read him?

two your saying you have reason to not scum read him. Thats different from town reading a player as you infact said you did.

so again why do you town read him?

Not why you think town should not be scum reading him and instead null on him but why you town read him.

bob do you have a read on TSE or nah

TSE isn't going to be lynched today we should lynch profii.


TSE or profii. Make it so.

Fingers itching to vote Hectic for the lie.

Nah, don't think Profi is a good D1 lynch either. Join me on Sausa?

In post 381, bob3141 wrote:

In post 375, AaronFrost wrote:

@bob

In post 362, AaronFrost wrote:He's got a bunch of votes on him already and a lot of them feel very opportunistic. His play itself doesn't really warrant the scum reads in my opinion and the fact that so many are quick to jump and vote him here points towards him being town.

why is he more than null to you

You say his play doesnt warrant beign scum read.

One what about his play means you dont get why players scum read him?

two your saying you have reason to not scum read him. Thats different from town reading a player as you infact said you did.

so again why do you town read him?

Not why you think town should not be scum reading him and instead null on him but why you town read him.

Dude, the answer is literally in the post you quote.

Just checking in.

A reminder: I HATE day 1 and will not be making any reads lists today, since a randomised list generated by the WHEEL would likely prove to be as useful.

Cat Scratch Fever and AaronFF! Shall we claim?

Fonz, lets say that we don't lynch TSE today. Are we going to pl his slot d3 for not being dead?

b/c @ this point I HIGHLY doubt the 2nd scum team or the SK or even the first team (if I'm wrong *gasp*) are going to shoot him.


Are u a member of the TSE/profi scum team or something?

VOTE: hectic

In post 379, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 375, AaronFrost wrote:He's got a bunch of votes on him already and a lot of them feel very opportunistic. His play itself doesn't really warrant the scum reads in my opinion and the fact that so many are quick to jump and vote him here points towards him being town.

I believe this has been mentioned already, but there are 37 town players in this game. I find it odd that you're getting town "feels" and a "gut" townread on TSE because... let's see, approximately 10(?) people have placed their vote on his wagon.
It doesn't really prove anything.

I think it's a lot more than 10 at this point

In post 171, Hectic wrote:I HATE Day 1.

In post 371, Hectic wrote:There's nothing I hate more than Day 1.

In post 387, Hectic wrote:A reminder: I HATE day 1

for a guy that hates day 1 you are sure trying to keep visible.

In post 390, AaronFrost wrote:I think it's a lot more than 10 at this point

I think all games should require a backup regardless of how good the mod thinks they are.

bob I've already answered why I think TSE is likely town. It's not a read I'm willing to die on, but it's one of the only reads I have right now.

If you want me to comment on his actual play, there's nothing AI. The scum motivated wagon on him is what points to him being town. I'm not gonna keep repeating myself.

I can't believe I'm mindmelding this much with Nero

thats kinda mean

In post 394, Pink Ball wrote:I can't believe I'm mindmelding this much with Nero

How does it feel

In post 382, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:bob do you have a read on TSE or nah

sort of null with a sligth scum read. the sligh scum read comes from the way he says oh i can prove im loud. Not that he can prove that he is loud bg but that he is loud. Leaves me feeling like he is loud something.

Im not sure he is the best lynch today but thats simply because that there is chance his slot becomes self resolving. Though last time some one claimed bg they did flip scum and ended up the last scum. Though luckly his claim was found out as he was trapped with informed bg claim. when the last town pr died.



Whats ive really noticed though is that aaron is defending tse pushing a town read when so far he hasnt come up with a reason. He hasnt simply come up with sayign oh tse claimed loud bg we should leave him for later even if he is null to me. But that he is town

He even says oh its was lareg wagon but missing to mention that we in 50 player game and in 13 player games every now and the you see 4 player all town wagons in rvs. 4 scaled up to 50 player game is 15.

In post 388, Nero Cain wrote:Fonz, lets say that we don't lynch TSE today. Are we going to pl his slot d3 for not being dead?

b/c @ this point I HIGHLY doubt the 2nd scum team or the SK or even the first team (if I'm wrong *gasp*) are going to shoot him.


Are u a member of the TSE/profi scum team or something?

I'm not committing to d3 specifically, for reasons that should be obvious. Look, every time someone makes a self resolving claim, the person SRing them the hardest flips out and prophesies doom if we don't lynch em THIS VERY MOMENT. But the claims remain self resolving. In a world where he's scum and not a BG, he still has to target an obvious nk target every night,and eventually an obvious nk target is going to be an actual nk target. If anything if he's scum the restriction this puts on their NKs is of bigger weight than any role he might have. It's a fifty player game. There is no way he makes it anywhere near LYLO.

In post 397, bob3141 wrote:


Whats ive really noticed though is that aaron is defending tse pushing a town read when so far he hasnt come up with a reason. He hasnt simply come up with sayign oh tse claimed loud bg we should leave him for later even if he is null to me. But that he is town

He even says oh its was lareg wagon but missing to mention that we in 50 player game and in 13 player games every now and the you see 4 player all town wagons in rvs. 4 scaled up to 50 player game is 15.

Aaron has said that he thinks TSE is town because of scummy votes on him, ie that he thinks those voters are scum pushing a mislynch. That's a reason.