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[Morning Tweet]

Having to figure out metas makes me sad :C

I read part of the profii + Alora scumteam game. I think I learned more about Flavour Leaf than I did them to be honest

@Hectic

what pings u abt Alo?

[SirCakez]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Why? I still don't understand how these reads work btw, do you feel S is more likely to be one side, or you just get the feeling their interactions are scummy in some way?

The latter. Sometimes there's more reasoning for it but it's too early here.

I interpreted this to mean that Cakez thinks one is scum but doesn't know which one.

Well if he thinks that Aloratom/Wake is tvs, shouldn't he have some idea of which one is scum in that scenario? Otherwise it's just kind of a vague statement that doesn't really mean anything.

Not always. Sometimes it's just a vague sort of feeling. Like you know it's not TvT or SvS from how the posts are written (i;e by how aggressively people are attacking each other or how engaged they are). It's kinda hard to describe but I know I'm not the only one who can see it.

[AaronFrost]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

I lean that way a little bit. Wake's tons of questions without real content backing them up is kinda scummy. But it could also just be his playstyle. Also I don't TR Alo especially strongly.

That sounds a lot like how town!Wake plays tbh

[Morning Tweet]

I know what you mean by TvS, Cakes, although I don't see what ur seeing

Wake makes a bunch of aggressive pushes/questions that don't have a lot of substance behind em (i.e. His questioning of Alo about why he said bob is definite scum). But i think it's a good look for wake + the evidence suggests he's more likely to do this as town.

[AaronFrost]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Why? I still don't understand how these reads work btw, do you feel S is more likely to be one side, or you just get the feeling their interactions are scummy in some way?

The latter. Sometimes there's more reasoning for it but it's too early here.

I interpreted this to mean that Cakez thinks one is scum but doesn't know which one.

Well if he thinks that Aloratom/Wake is tvs, shouldn't he have some idea of which one is scum in that scenario? Otherwise it's just kind of a vague statement that doesn't really mean anything.

Not always. Sometimes it's just a vague sort of feeling. Like you know it's not TvT or SvS from how the posts are written (i;e by how aggressively people are attacking each other or how engaged they are). It's kinda hard to describe but I know I'm not the only one who can see it.

I can agree with them not being SvS, but I do think there's a chance that it's TvT as well. It's like Wake's aggressiveness vs. Alora's more laid-back attitude but I think that's just a playstyle thing. I do think Wake is town for his approach, but I don't really have a strong read on Aloratom right now tbh.

[SirCakez]

I know what you mean by TvS, Cakes, although I don't see what ur seeing

Wake makes a bunch of aggressive pushes/questions that don't have a lot of substance behind em (i.e. His questioning of Alo about why he said bob is definite scum). But i think it's a good look for wake + the evidence suggests he's more likely to do this as town.

Ok good to know.

I'm willing to sheep other people on Wake, at least for this early part of the game.

[AaronFrost]

Hey Cakez can you elaborate a little more on your Hectic scumread? Out of everyone here I probably have the most experience with him and rn I lean town him (although I'm not super confident in that read). What about him feels fake?

[Morning Tweet]

Onto Hectic!!!

...i don't know how Hectic plays meta-wise either.

I think it's more likely town!Hectic interrupts dave's question/reaction test thingy on me in 216. I also give him a slight town edge for ignoring your comment about not liking him.

I see that you are less fond of him, cakes. Are you familiar with Hectic's playstyle or is he included with your 372 disclaimer about not knowing exact playstyles?

pedit: i wanted to ask first...

[SirCakez]

Hey Cakez can you elaborate a little more on your Hectic scumread? Out of everyone here I probably have the most experience with him and rn I lean town him (although I'm not super confident in that read). What about him feels fake?

It just feels way too early for that kind of readslist and the progression isn't there for it IMO. I already talked about not liking him avoiding me earlier. A lot of questions seemingly leading nowhere (this is something I think scum do a lot ftr)


I am not familiar with Hectic other than an ongoing game which obv I can't talk about
Who do you two (Aaron and MT) think is scum?

[Wake1]

The content is almost always less important than the reason for having a question. This is also a clue on how to read me.

What do you think was Wake's intent behind his question in 180?

I see we have an alt-slip.

[SirCakez]

WOW I thought CSF was a newbie this whole time...

[Morning Tweet]

the best I can do finding scum is establishing who I think is town and then picking from who's left over. I'm ok at the first part-- not so much at the second

It's too early for me to call this a town bloc, but I think Wake, SirCakes, and Hectic are town leans at the top

I think the inkling I got about Alo is admittedly very weak, but is better than not having something to examine at all

I don't agree with his dave's view on Alo. But I do like his confused responses to Holden's recent posting which was pretty much my reaction too. I go back and forth about the reaction test question thingy on me, but I'm leaning it's something he'd come up with as town

I need to reread Holden's recent content, although what he mentioned was mostly stemming from a misunderstanding so I didn't get a lot out of it

{Wake}
{SirCake, Hectic}
{Alo, dave}
{everyone else in a confusing, unable to read pool}

Everyone else has posted too little and/or i feel kinda uncomfortable trying to read. For example, I'm interested in Gamma, because the majority of his posts haven't been game-related, but idk if that's just what he does.

[Wake1]

I, for one, would like to hear more from tictac.

I would hate to think he's holding back.

[AaronFrost]

Hey Cakez can you elaborate a little more on your Hectic scumread? Out of everyone here I probably have the most experience with him and rn I lean town him (although I'm not super confident in that read). What about him feels fake?

It just feels way too early for that kind of readslist and the progression isn't there for it IMO. I already talked about not liking him avoiding me earlier. A lot of questions seemingly leading nowhere (this is something I think scum do a lot ftr)

Ok I think this makes sense. I townlean him mostly because of he's been one of the more proactive players even if his questioning feels generic.

I think in terms of asking useless questions or making useless comments, I think Gamma's been a lot worse in that department.

[AaronFrost]

pedit: i wanted to ask first...

oh shit sorry my bad

[AaronFrost]

As for who I scumread right now, I don't really have any solid scumreads at the moment. There's a few players here I would've expected to be a little more proactive here (namely bob, Gamma, profii and tictac I think could be doing a little more) but I need more from those slots I think before I could justify a scumread there.

[davesaz]

at first galnce i woudl say alorat seems different from his scum game. There he was say x and y was scum without any reason.

So Bob, gotta ask -- in this game he said you were scum without any reason.
If that's what he does in scumgames, then why were you so nonchalant about it here?

[Gamma Emerald]

Putting up a safety V/LA until the 17th because my next few days could be turbulent and I don’t want to get replaced accidentally

[SirCakez]

Hmmm I'm also interested in tictac
I know I played a game with them before but I don't remember the name :/

[Morning Tweet]

pedit: i wanted to ask first...

oh shit sorry my bad

sniff

its ok

[Klick]

Putting up a safety V/LA until the 17th because my next few days could be turbulent and I don’t want to get replaced accidentally

Noted. Hope all is well!

[bob3141]

at first galnce i woudl say alorat seems different from his scum game. There he was say x and y was scum without any reason.

So Bob, gotta ask -- in this game he said you were scum without any reason.
If that's what he does in scumgames, then why were you so nonchalant about it here?

This feels a little selective. I say alor in general is not acting like he was in his scum game. And you jump on the fact that he made a quick early scum read. Although he may of given a bit of a scum read at the same time he is saying things like in post 262. Where he says he hasnt got handle on me. Thus what ever read he has is not strong. With this same read being a page 4 read and not real much of big deal.

What level of reason wuld you expect anyoen to have so early into teh game. where if everyone posted equally no one woudl hae more than 7 posts. With me havign 3 or so mostly rvs posts. What level of reason would you realy expect any player to have at that point.

And everything else regarding me in his posts has not been to push me but just generaly commenting on early events in neutral manner.


In his scum game he as active in throwing shade around and persistently push the same reads and pushs even though he never backed them up

[bob3141]

The reason I have you bottom of my reads is because the stances you've taken thus far are easy and ones taken by a few others already (dave and Wake town). I want to hear more reasoning/independent thoughts from you, which is why I'm asking if your Eyes of Misgiving are pointing anywhere yet.

how would you say your stance differ?


Not saying your doign the same but what to hear in your words how you woudl describe every push and stance you have taken and how you think it compares.


Also do you think any of his thoughts? Even as if they are as you suggest unoriginal?

As its bit easy to say unoriginal to interact while also avoiding truely commenting on them

[profii]

WOW I thought CSF was a newbie this whole time...

why did you only comment on that when Wake pointed it out, rather than when it happened?

[profii]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

also are you still feeling scum on Alo?

All I want to know from Aloratom is why he said that other guy was definite Scum.

Him evading my question only makes me suspect him more.

If he explains why, I'm more likely to relent.

But what if his explanation is scummy?

That question is rhetorical & facetious in equal measure.