Oh, that's weird. Porkens I have played with several times. Never seen him do a wall post like that. In any case, Arthur self hammering is bad which makes reading the NK pretty much WIFOM.
Votato's unvote was weird. He really had no reason to unvote there. There wasn't intent to hammer or anything. Given that my pred pointed out that we typically dance around the lynch for a while before deciding, I think makes the self hammer pretty anti-Town all things considered. Is moral for this game really that bad?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:35 am
by LicketyQuickety
I'm more or less caught up.
votato pushing Anthony is Scummy, but I am not sure votato wouldn't do that as Town.
I think this games solves with one more flip.
Going to:
VOTE: votato at this time.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:15 am
by votato
Brass' response did ping me as slightly townie, which is why i tried to encourage him to come join the thread and post. His continued refusal made it null so still and overall scum read.
Ok, can we lynch quick now? I feel like my unvote was good, especially in hindsight. This is not how quick normally feels
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:57 am
by Mikul
Herald replaced before Anthony ?
Confirm ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:02 am
by Mikul
Nm just saw they are waiting on confirmation before Anthony.
I'm largely not going to pay attention to anything any of the replacements say at this time. Going to re read this game in so today and make a choice later. This is a prime example of slots having mistakes and issues, and a replacement doesn't solve those issues
I'm heavily leaning herald , especially after that replacement. Going to read his other games later to confirm my thoughts.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:04 am
by Mikul
Connor it's really on us to solve this. Well talk more later today and figure it out but I'm disregarding any argument by any replacement and going to look at the slots and what they did
Especially I want to look at heralds motivation to replace since he still active in another game
yes, i was fairly convinced i was on town at that point. plus i was concerned that the day would end prematurely. turns out, i was right on both counts!
whats the relevance here quick? why bring that up?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:14 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 387, votato wrote:yes, i was fairly convinced i was on town at that point. plus i was concerned that the day would end prematurely. turns out, i was right on both counts!
It's a completely moot point because you couldn't have known that at the time. I also expect you to "get" that it's not normal to end the day that early. Were you reading them as Town or what? Why did you unvote there besides just, "didn't want to end the day early"?
whats the relevance here quick? why bring that up?
When someone does something weird, I think an explanation is in order.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:17 am
by votato
In post 387, votato wrote:yes, i was fairly convinced i was on town at that point. plus i was concerned that the day would end prematurely. turns out, i was right on both counts!
I think you unvoted him because you KNEW he was Town and didn't want to be on the wagon after he flipped.
in that case wouldnt i make up a reason and state it publicly to avoid exactly this scenario?
That's a theoretical that loses all practical application. Mafia doesn't work like that.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:37 am
by votato
so what you're saying is that everything is wifom and we really cant evaluate anything? yeah, you're scum for sure.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:38 am
by Mikul
To start this off I think there was 1 scum on the Arthur lynch so i'm going to work from there
33 One of the very first posts in the game TL starts to put the idea out that arthur is scum 36 This post bothers me still. TL says we just played together and establishes a meta for me without knowing my meta because he's only seen me play once. He also says he scum leans me 44 Brass says he's inactive most weekends. I check his games, and other games and this is almost always the case so he is telling the truth with this and it's not lurking. Went back for nearly 2 months. 45 Reading this back I'm ready to lynch TL here. When i questioned him here he said it's a meta thing but pop psychology but that he's also okay with lynching arthur. If he scum leans me, why would he be okay with lynching arthur? 46 Concedes me to spamming after he said it wasn't good and scum read me for it 61 TL starts back on arthur about him misreading a joke 63 Herald actually defends arthur, would he not distance himself from this wagon as scum? 84 Votato is pushing hard on this arthur lynch 85 Anthony said he voted for me because he doesn't like spam. I actually buy this for his first game VOTE: 93 Herald is reading votato as scum 96 Herald is already annoyed at this game because he doesn't value it and thinks its a waste of time. 104 I don't like anything about this post from TL 106 I actually like this post from vex 107 Porkens catch up - He scum reads me and TL at the start. He really scum reads vex, but I don't think that is motivation for a nk because vex was not replaced until mid day through today. He also calls out TL more. 109 He still is valuing my input after saying he scum leans me at the start of the game, then out of no where changes this and wants to go on arthur.
As a side note to this, I think this looks better for votato if scum were in the inactive pile. The mod even noted anthony had not submitted since the end of the DP. So if anthony is scum and votato is scum, votato would have likely carried out the nk and been blocked. Votato is scum only if an active person is scum.
124 Herald votes arthur. I don't read this as scum, i read it as town for whatever reason looking back 140 This is more town on heralds part i think pointing this out
Re reading this I think i have this entire game wrong. Continued next post