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i should also mention;

In post 279, popopopopopopo wrote:ok, should i get on this bob wagon?

In post 280, popopopopopopo wrote:idk i think bob is mislynch bait, im not feeling it

this sequence is good. i think town is more likely to show restraint/concern here given a bob-vote could have easily been justified by popo-scum (assuming bob is town).

i find with low-effort players like bob, the best way to read them is from the collective interaction others have with them, rather than anything they do/say themself. if they start receiving a disproportionate level of suspicion relative to what their behaviour ought to realistically warrant, it's an indication there is scum taking advantage of an easy target.

its become apparent to me that bob's wagon seemed likely scum-pushed in the end.

well geez, I get falsley listed as being on the wagon, popopo gets a flipping medal

In post 364, notscience wrote:Klick what’s worrying you about me

263 looked bad earlier, the 'sell me on Bella' pinged me a bit as you wanting to use Hoopla to formulate your read on Bella for you. but looking at it right now I feel completely differently and actually kinda vining with notscience-town. I feel like town-you is more likely to be like 'wtf why is Klick scumreading me for flimsy reasons'
But this is moderately drunk Klick logic now vs sober Klick logic earlier. I think I trust my gut rn though because I was having a lot of trouble getting into this earlier in any capacity. You can be town notty

In post 369, Hoopla wrote:@bella, @klick

i still want both of you to give me an honest appraisal regarding your accuracy of reading each other's alignment.

in the event one of you flips town, how much weight should your opinion of the other's alignment be given?

We haven't actually played much mafia together at all. But last time we were both town, and I pegged her as town rather quickly into D1, whereas she always had a lowkey scumread on me.
In IRL mafia I literally just can't play with her because if I'm scum she will instantly call me on it. I'm not nearly as good at reading her IRL.

Tl;dr: low sample size/evidence, but I do actually think I can read her well on forum. This doesn't really feel like town Bella to me yet.


Im starting to develop a mild scumread on Hoopla or at least I'm not vibing with her here at all on several things. Geraintm looks obvtown to me. The wagon is indeed ass. And I think she along with several others are going in a bit unnaturally hard on the Bob wagon. The idea that Bob was an easy scum push doesn't seem intuitive to me - it was too early and there wasn't enough substance for it to be the kind of thing scum would seriously expect to successfully push early. If anything the tinfoil I had in my head earlier was that Bob was scum and had at least one buddy on him earlier who knew the wagon wouldn't take off properly due to lack of evidence.

Isis what do you think of this game's universal scumread on me without any interest in pulling the trigger on a eagon

In post 376, Isis wrote:well geez, I get falsley listed as being on the wagon, popopo gets a flipping medal

actually, you are right. you were only on bob up until page 5.

this wagon was a lot more fluid, and actually hadneutral/scum involvement in it than i remembered; notscience and klick were the latest adopters of the bob-wagon - both slots i am wary of.

dunnstral was the first bob vote i remember disliking, flippy being more neutral. but the fact that notscience and klick got on there too. literally the last four voters of bob were suss.

how coincidental.

more likely, it was scum-pushed.

In post 378, Klick wrote:Isis what do you think of this game's universal scumread on me without any interest in pulling the trigger on a eagon

be careful what you wish for!

Okay, then what do you think about it Hoopla?
Because I think it's rly weird

In post 381, Klick wrote:Okay, then what do you think about it Hoopla?
Because I think it's rly weird

I think it might mean you're town and so were the people pushing you
That's what I'd say if I was a big picture person
I'm a very tiny details type of player, though, usually

My thought was at least one scum are concerned that they wouldn't be able to get a real execute on me so they've decided to jump on the 'Klick is mildly scummy' wagon instead and let it build up to an execute tomorrow or D3

In post 381, Klick wrote:Okay, then what do you think about it Hoopla?
Because I think it's rly weird

you are a very good player.

i'm nervous that i drew town with a bunch of passive townies afraid of taking on the big dogs of the game. there's only so much heavy lifting i can do, and my vote is currently hard at work.

i'll probably be relying on you/bella to shed light on each other's alignment throughout the game... or perhaps an unexpected town hero will step up and lead the way. sometimes it just takes one brave, convincing voice.

In post 383, Klick wrote:My thought was at least one scum are concerned that they wouldn't be able to get a real execute on me so they've decided to jump on the 'Klick is mildly scummy' wagon instead and let it build up to an execute tomorrow or D3

if scum are concerned about town-you, that they feel they need to sew early seeds of doubt about you to build for a D2-D3 execute, wouldn't a more efficient method be just placating you today and NK you instead?

He maybe doesn't get that far Klick-town is sufficient for it all to be counterfactual :S

What makes you think I'm good at this game? it's weird hearing people say stuff like that considering my history

The problem I'm having with you right now, aside from coming to wildly different conclusions on almost everything that's happened so far, is that it almost feels like you've set up a narrative that you'd like today to go by, in a way that doesn't feel entirely guided by your reads like last game. I can see this coming from you as town (and feel free to state if that is indeed something you're doing here), but I feel like there's more clear and obvious motivation for it to come from scum.

PEdit: the motive isn't necessarily being concerned about me. I see that sort of scum play fairly often, setting up potential mis-executes they think they can get on a later day. Based on everyone's stated reads I'd certainly be a viable execute eventually if the trend continued

@hoops his level of engagement with the game. As bob said he is taking stances way earlier than normal and I take it as a town trying to be better d1.

More effort when I’m home

In post 386, Isis wrote:He maybe doesn't get that far Klick-town is sufficient for it all to be counterfactual :S

I'm not sober enough to understand this post

Notty I townread you now are you happy

Hoopla and Isis are scummy

Yes

I’m not happy with Bella tho but idk if I’m being a diva or not

“Pls interact with me”

*interacts*

“I’ll reply later”

But I get people get busy so I might be being a diva

UNVOTE:

I don’t think. I wanna be on a dunn lead wagon

Klick is being townier than his scumgame, to me, I think.

In post 183, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:

In post 179, Hoopla wrote:

@mod

prod this sujimichi character

Sujimichi has been prodded. It will count as an official prod in (expired on 2020-07-08 00:15:00). I will start looking for a replacement if he doesn't post in (expired on 2020-07-09 00:15:00)

are you looking for replacement?

In post 397, Isis wrote:

In post 183, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:

In post 179, Hoopla wrote:

@mod

prod this sujimichi character

Sujimichi has been prodded. It will count as an official prod in (expired on 2020-07-08 00:15:00). I will start looking for a replacement if he doesn't post in (expired on 2020-07-09 00:15:00)

Mod

are you looking for replacement?

Yes, but as of the time of writing this post, I am still typing the post.