In post 288, Servant Avenger wrote:I don’t know if you’re scum. It’s like a reverse OMGUS, normally I would suspect you for voting me, here’s it’s the exact opposite.
Umm. How serious are you about this?
In post 289, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Developing scumreads is not where my focus is atm. Like I said, by nature I approach games via Townread/POE. I think my POE is pretty clear in my list.
Yeah that's fine. Do your thing tbh.
In post 290, Servant Saber wrote:I don't really think that someone simply not wanting Master status should warrant not giving it to them, but if there are other gameplay factors to consider, then that changes things.
Yeah, I heard somewhere that the best leaders are the ones who don't really want to lead. What do you mean by "other gameplay factors"?
In post 290, Servant Saber wrote:To me, all three of you said a lot of things that could've been left out without much/any content loss and unnecessarily inflated the thread "volume" as a result. In your case in particular, quote stripes also make my eyes glaze over and are a reasonable tactic for instilling a lack of desire to read and re-read the thread
I will try to cut down on the fluff if you'd want which should resolve the problem of quote striping. Also, it's not like I'm posting super dense paragraphs. I'm just picking some quotes that I want to talk about; it shouldn't be that hard to read imo. Honestly, these are a little hard for me to write, but I think it's the best thing to do.
In post 292, Servant Ruler wrote:#77 is wrong about Cabd and the loophole. Cabd has already left a loophole. None of us were given any reason to think the master-making ability was shared. I didn't assume I was the most powerful role in the game, but I absolutely did not expect it to be shared.
Wait this is sort of a good point. However, I also feel like that's a way for town to gain a massive, immediate advantage? I feel like the mod probably provided fakeclaims, and that scum had a similar power like what Avenger was saying in
77. If scum were provided fakeclaims, I can certainly see them rushing straight out of the gate with this supposed "town-specific" trait which doesn't help with my read on Berserker.
Yeah.
In post 295, Prism wrote:Even if he changed that, scum have to work out that it's shared and not an individual power and race to capitalize on the clear from it.
Oh this is also true. I wonder how the rest of you feel about this. Bye!
In post 299, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Scum could have figured it out with no help from the mod.
Think about how getting elected would seal their fate, then think about how they'd expect it to propagate.
Yeah, I was also thinking this because scum probably have some ability that is similar to our ability that triggers after master. Also, can you explain your read on me more, and also how I look like scum with Alter Ego?
I'm on Moon Cancer's side here. If they asked for a fakeclaim, and noticed that ability and combined it with their own potential ability, it's quite easy to make the connection.
I found it blatantly hypocritical that Avenger was shading me for apparently wanting the vote while he legit has been the most vocal about that. I am fine with being master, but my upgrade doesn't seem to be super strong. I think I could lead the town though.
In post 308, Servant Rider wrote:So what's scum!Caster's motivation for voting town!Foreigner and feeling urgent about it?
I don't know. The tone in that quote just felt really weird because it seemed to me like Caster was making it feel like a hard, rushed decision when it really wasn't.
Ya same. Role madness is cool.
In post 311, Servant Rider wrote:Do you actively scumread him or do you just not have him as a townread, Assassin? If the former, elaborate please?
Why only the former? You're townread Caster and Assassin doesn't, so wouldn't you want him to explain either way?
In post 312, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I thought there was an inconsistency regarding Archer's take on the basis for Avenger's townread of Foreigner.
Can you explain this please? For the record, I found it weird how Avenger wanted me to townread Foreigner based on interaction with Berserker, but then cited reasons outside of that to support his own TR.
What is wrong with this? I find it townie when people change their mind in one post and don't really explain it. I think it seemed genuine in your case.
In post 314, Servant Rider wrote:They've also done a lot of promising for rereads and revisits and what have you and I've seen no results from that so far either. And not just about the 1v1.
No?
Hmm.
In post 320, Servant Avenger wrote:A lot of people don’t want a master it seems. I get that. I want a master though. What could I do to earn your vote? I don’t want to be too forceful here. But I also can’t really trust anybody else with it.
Thoughts on Avenger people? Overall, I feel like Avenger has been very upfront on wanting the vote, but I don't really remember anything townie he's done in particular. I still think he could be a good town leader though.
What do you mean by this? This is dayplay.
Not a big fan of Avenger practically babysitting Shielder in
331 by literally just reiterating setup information. The rest is fine.
bruh
I do like Avenger's
343 though. I think the hesitancy in both cases isn't really hedging, but more of town uncertainty. I do think Assassin is solid town though. Says what he thinks, and what he thinks is townie to me. Keep this up and maybe you'll get my vote
In post 346, Servant Lancer wrote:I might actually have to bite the bullet and take notes this game. I underestimated how much I relied on avatars/names/personality quirks in telling players apart and playing intuitively like I like to.
Sorta unnecessary to say out loud ngl. Whatever works for you though.
Avenger, this is your competition. Better step it up.
In post 350, Servant Lancer wrote:Unless Alter Ego was getting some sort of pushback for treating Moon Cancer as town, this isn't something I see scum allowing to make it to the thread.
No, I can easily see scum faking a townread on someone for reasons like that and then retracting it. First, it makes them look better. Second, it makes them not obligated to townread someone. Not calling AE scum, but I don't think this is great reason for townread.
In post 353, Servant Assassin wrote:
but then what did he say that was notable, what stood out to you exactly, what differentiated him from anyone else with early game reads
Good question by Assassin.
Overall, I like Assassin more than Lancer here, but that doesn't mean Lancer is scum. Hopefully, I'll be able to do more real time stuff soon.
In post 366, Servant Ruler wrote:That's not really relevant to my position which I acknowledge. I'd be campaigning against an inevitability. Any town getting the master serves my wincon all the same.
I'm not a fan of this lazy play, but that would be hypocritical. Just be helpful in the future because this is not really a good first look for you.
Did you read the thread before you asked this?
In post 390, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Rider, to what extent do you think animosities and pushes so far are driven by a burning desire to get the master upgrade? Do the campaigns look mostly town to you? Does anything stand out as not like the others?
I'm not rider, but the only person who is really campaigning seems to be Avenger? Who else are you thinking of?