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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:44 pm
by Bell
To be clear I don’t disagree with the meta reads but, i don’t know her play or her capacity. So i’m starting with a lot less.
There’s stuff that’s off. There’s a general pointed avoidance of denying they’re scum directly etc, as LLD said, there’s a focus on the argument rather than trying to read LLD.

On the other hand I agree somewhat with tailor that the LLD approach might make things more confusing than whatever normal rvs looks like.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:49 pm
by Bell
In post 359, Noraa wrote:If anyone "accidentally hammers" tho, I'm SRing you to hell and back, scum and ur going down with me 100% if u try to get that towncred.
Dunno if somebody asked this but how would it be town cred if you flip town.

@shellyc. You’re officially on my scum
bucket lists for your posts this game.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:50 pm
by shellyc
In post 375, Bell wrote:On the other hand I agree somewhat with tailor that the LLD approach might make things more confusing than whatever normal rvs looks like.
its giving us info

bell what is your read on noraa and LLD
do you think this means LLD is being antitown

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:51 pm
by Bell
You’re basically dead to me at this point shelly.
This is your scum game.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:52 pm
by Bell
Lld is town. A blind person can see that. And if theybcouldn’t See it a dead person would hear it.
I literally just explained Noraa.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:53 pm
by Fidget
In post 378, Bell wrote:You’re basically dead to me at this point shelly.
This is your scum game.
Oh how shelly loves to bus.

That being said, I would be quite surprised if she defended Noraa, even as town.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:53 pm
by Bell
Hell if I know what kind of mathematics would go into that equation. But pit me against lld more. See what happens.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:54 pm
by shellyc
In post 378, Bell wrote:You’re basically dead to me at this point shelly.
This is your scum game.
...

asking for reads = scummy
paranoia = scummy

this is omgus by the way, i've been SR on bell since forever

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:55 pm
by shellyc
In post 379, Bell wrote:Lld is town. A blind person can see that. And if theybcouldn’t See it a dead person would hear it.
yeah. but you pointed they were anti in your opinion, so i was wondering why you decided to say your TR's approach is weird

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:56 pm
by shellyc
In post 125, Bell wrote:Regarding Noraa my heart just dropped.
while not voting noraa

which is a very scummy move to look good for the cameras while trying to slow the wagon

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:57 pm
by Bell
I added in enough qualifiers that you ignoring that just makes me sure you’re either being intentionally dense or intentionally ignoring them.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:57 pm
by Bell
In post 384, shellyc wrote:
In post 125, Bell wrote:Regarding Noraa my heart just dropped.
while not voting noraa

which is a very scummy move to look good for the cameras while trying to slow the wagon
If you say so scum shelly.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:57 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 383, shellyc wrote:
In post 379, Bell wrote:Lld is town. A blind person can see that. And if theybcouldn’t See it a dead person would hear it.
yeah. but you pointed they were anti in your opinion, so i was wondering why you decided to say your TR's approach is weird
hold on

you think it's weird to townread someone and think they're handling a situation wrong?

Cause the comment they made was "hmm maybe RVS is made a bit weird by how aggro LLD is being" not "LLD is scummy for this"

So why are you flipping it like this?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:58 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 386, Bell wrote:
In post 384, shellyc wrote:
In post 125, Bell wrote:Regarding Noraa my heart just dropped.
while not voting noraa

which is a very scummy move to look good for the cameras while trying to slow the wagon
If you say so scum shelly.
Hush now, dear.

Let me handle this for a moment.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:59 pm
by Bell
I don’t see any paranoia from you.
You just said I was scum and that was it

Also, omgus implies that I’m town. So mark your words carefully

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:59 pm
by Bell
Hushing.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:00 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 377, shellyc wrote:
In post 375, Bell wrote:On the other hand I agree somewhat with
tailor that the LLD approach might make things more confusing than whatever normal rvs looks like.
its giving us info

bell what is your read on noraa and LLD
do you think this means LLD is being antitown
So ignore that I think Bells is loco and this is how RVS used to be when I played, right.

Their comment here is hard to misconstrue as an anti-lld sentiment. It's a "Taylor was saying we need more wagons and I wonder if maybe they're right".

Bells is WRONG here, but not for the reason you're implying.

so how did you come to this conclusion?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:01 pm
by shellyc
In post 387, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:hold on

you think it's weird to townread someone and think they're handling a situation wrong?

Cause the comment they made was "hmm maybe RVS is made a bit weird by how aggro LLD is being" not "LLD is scummy for this"

So why are you flipping it like this?
yeah i think its weird

you either townread someone or you dont.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:01 pm
by Fidget
In post 384, shellyc wrote:
In post 125, Bell wrote:Regarding Noraa my heart just dropped.
while not voting noraa

which is a very scummy move to look good for the cameras while trying to slow the wagon
Are you saying Bell is impeding the Noraa wagon, and he's trying to look good.. by not joining the wagon?

No. You're saying he's throwing suspicion on Noraa in order to look good, but he's not committing the vote because he's holding out for the wagon not going through. Is that what you're saying?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:02 pm
by shellyc
In post 391, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Their comment here is hard to misconstrue as an anti-lld sentiment. It's a "Taylor was saying we need more wagons and I wonder if maybe they're right".

Bells is WRONG here, but not for the reason you're implying.

so how did you come to this conclusion?
bell: theres a possibility that LLD is playing aggro and taylor is right
also bell: LLD is town

im not saying bell is SR on you
im saying bell is doubting your methods while townreading you

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:02 pm
by shellyc
In post 393, Fidget wrote:No. You're saying he's throwing suspicion on Noraa in order to look good, but he's not committing the vote because he's holding out for the wagon not going through. Is that what you're saying?
YES

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:03 pm
by shellyc
In post 394, shellyc wrote:im saying bell is doubting your methods while townreading you
which again, is a way to discredit the noraa push without going against town leader

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:03 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 392, shellyc wrote:
In post 387, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:hold on

you think it's weird to townread someone and think they're handling a situation wrong?

Cause the comment they made was "hmm maybe RVS is made a bit weird by how aggro LLD is being" not "LLD is scummy for this"

So why are you flipping it like this?
yeah i think its weird

you either townread someone or you dont.
And he town reads me.

He's been pretty clearly townreading me in all his posts since my entrance.

this is very clear in the way he posts and how he acts.

No the biggest question is how you got to "not townreading LLD" from "questioning whether LLD's methods are correct, or if another method should be employed."

It's QUITE a big gap, and not as easy a mistake to make as you are making it out to seem, so I wanna know how you got there.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:04 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Question: What is the value of Bell continuing that method right now with 9 votes on Noraa and a clear indication I am a rabid dog with my teeth sunk into her and I have no intention of letting her live past today?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:05 pm
by Fidget
In post 395, shellyc wrote:
In post 393, Fidget wrote:No. You're saying he's throwing suspicion on Noraa in order to look good, but he's not committing the vote because he's holding out for the wagon not going through. Is that what you're saying?
YES
Seems a tad counter-intuitive to me, and not very good for gaining towncred at all. But I'll concur with LLD on the wagon spec point and not do too much pre-flip yet.