Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 9

• Infinity Zero
  -------- 2 ( Wellermanbob, Vaxkiller )
  
  Wellermanbob
  --------- 2 ( Red, Twins Akari and Mara )
  
  Twins Akari and Mara
  - 2 ( Chara, Titus )
  
  Titus
  ---------------- 1 ( Perfume )
  
  Vaxkiller
  ------------ 1 ( jjh927 )
  
  Catboi
  --------------- 1 ( Raya36 )
  
  Mistyx
  --------------- 1 ( Catboi )
  
  Chara
  ---------------- 1 ( Infinity Zero )
  
  Raya36
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Perfume
  -------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  Smoke and Mirrors
  ---- 0 ( No One )
  
  Red
  ------------------ 0 ( No One )
  
  jjh927
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ----------- 2 ( Mistyx, Smoke and Mirrors )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Flip
Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-11 20:01:00)

[Smoke and Mirrors]

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@Red, do you have some kind of post restriction or is there some reason why you are making your posts so hard to read?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I don't believe in NAI tbh

Why not?

[catboi]

i already knew this but also wow, this game really is full of the gimmick accounts.

(⁎˃ᆺ˂)

Is that kind of "hey I need to do something to respond to this" feeling more likely to come from town or scum?

Whole wall felt confirmation biased, which can be scum but sometimes it's just tunneled town. I lean toward the latter a little bit.


I kind of think I like smoke and mirrors.

I would like to know how people are reading Red because I really can’t make sense of pretty much anything they’ve posted.

Lean scum.

[catboi]

Game not really moving at a blitz pace, huh? I guess I'm not really in the blitz game mindset either, it's tough to adjust, but some people really need to pick up the pace. o(^・x・^)w

VOTE: Akari and Mara

I would say I prefer this to the Bob and Infinity wagons, the vote on bob did ping slightly, we're at a point where we actually need to get some form of momentum going.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I think so too. Town generally tries to make themselves readable so I think Red has a better chance of flipping scum than any of the other wagons.

VOTE: Red Flavor

I’m actually shocked that they haven’t received a single vote yet. They aren’t making reads but by obfuscating their posts, people can get the incorrect sense that they’re actually doing something.

[catboi]

Well, they have given reads, I just haven't agreed with them. 75 accuses Titus of pointing out the obvious and being overconfident, 254 accuses bob of having a "guilty conscience" for refusing to explain his reads to raya

I think they're hard to read because they're leaning into the gimmick hard which probably makes it harder to communicate anything but there's a number of people who haven't posted much that's readable. I don't know that they're

worse

than others, per se, and I probably wouldn't vote there right now even though I do suspect them, it's a weak suspicion and I want to see if they become more readable. （=´∇｀=）

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Well, they have given reads, I just haven't agreed with them. 75 accuses Titus of pointing out the obvious and being overconfident, 254 accuses bob of having a "guilty conscience" for refusing to explain his reads to raya

I think they're hard to read because they're leaning into the gimmick hard which probably makes it harder to communicate anything but there's a number of people who haven't posted much that's readable. I don't know that they're

worse

than others, per se, and I probably wouldn't vote there right now even though I do suspect them, it's a weak suspicion and I want to see if they become more readable. （=´∇｀=）

So why are Akari and Mara worse for you than Red Flavor? I’m not opposed to their wagon but I don’t see why they’re scummier?

[catboi]

So why are Akari and Mara worse for you than Red Flavor? I’m not opposed to their wagon but I don’t see why they’re scummier?

Their vote on bob was, as far as I can tell, for "being mean" which IMHO is a worse reason than Red. Don't necessarily get the read of Raya as "underwhelming" either, I think she's been fine. But also partly a compromise vote, like I said. We've got less than 2 days so I'll move to someone I slightly suspect who is a viable wagon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Smoke and Mirrors]

So why are Akari and Mara worse for you than Red Flavor? I’m not opposed to their wagon but I don’t see why they’re scummier?

Their vote on bob was, as far as I can tell, for "being mean" which IMHO is a worse reason than Red. Don't necessarily get the read of Raya as "underwhelming" either, I think she's been fine. But also partly a compromise vote, like I said. We've got less than 2 days so I'll move to someone I slightly suspect who is a viable wagon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I’m willing to move there depending on they respond to the wagon on them.

[Twins Akari and Mara]

Wait, let me get this straight.

You're willing to vote a compromise wagon vs vote on a wagon that you are leaning scum on because you don't understand some of my reads?

That makes absolutely zero sense

[Twins Akari and Mara]

I may have not gone into detail on my Bob read but it was insinuated that I thought they were scum.

I'm also curious to why you have a scum read on Red but wouldn't be willing to vote in that direction

[catboi]

Did I say I don't think you're scummy? I don't believe so. Red is inactive and has two posts of content I wasn't a fan of. You have more stances, most of which I actively dislike. But again if the larger wagon were on Red I'd switch seeing as

we have less than 2 days left

. I suppose I have a bit of hesitation toward voting a low content poster on day 1 although that is an irrational bias.

[Twins Akari and Mara]

VOTE: Red

If this flips red, Catboi needs to be looked into more tomorrow. There literally went from saying they scum-read Red to stating they were making reads.

I would also be willing to go after Chara for the reasons Infinity says. Also because I expect scum to react to Titus in the way she has because Scum apparently can't kill her nor can they afford to get on titus' bad side.

It's also kinda weird that they are voting me for townreading titus when they also town-read titus and we definitely had a conversation where I told them directly why I had a town read on titus

Pedit: you just said we were a compromise wagon

[catboi]

I...still lean scum on Red? You're not making sense to me.

[Twins Akari and Mara]

You're saying you scum read them, but you decide to play devil's advocate for them?

And you prefer us over them because we have more opinions in the actual thread than he does even though he as more posts physically than we do?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

@Perfume, do I know you? Have we played before under a different account of yours? You don’t need to out it if so but it might possibly affect my read on you.

Can you please answer this?

[Twins Akari and Mara]

I'm not perfume?

But I was Momrangal in secret alt

[Twins Akari and Mara]

Sks reginald

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I'm not perfume?

But I was Momrangal in secret alt

Sks reginald

I know. I want Perfume to answer my question because I think I might know who they are and if I’m right, would affect my read on them.

[Infinity Zero]

The bolded was probably the only thing I disliked because if you’re scumreading a slot, you should never not read that player’s post but other than that I’m not really sure what you’re referring to but I’ll re-ISO them. Gamma definitely needs to post more because I think I can better read him > Infinity.

That part was rhetoric, I read the post.

I don't scumread confidence and I'm not sure where you're getting that. Yes different emotional states are AI or NAI for different players but I strongly believe this one doesn't feel right from town.

-Inf

[Infinity Zero]

Me and gamma both lean town on akara.

Whoever said that mistyx is not doing a good job at showing she's happy about rolling town is looking prophetic.

-Inf

[Raya36]

I think so too. Town generally tries to make themselves readable so I think Red has a better chance of flipping scum than any of the other wagons.

VOTE: Red Flavor

I’m actually shocked that they haven’t received a single vote yet. They aren’t making reads but by obfuscating their posts, people can get the incorrect sense that they’re actually doing something.

So you're voting a gimmick account for playing to their gimmick?

I still think catboi could be scum. I really dislike the mistyx vote. The reasoning given was that she isn't acting as excited to roll town as she said which means absolutely nothing. The scumreads on red and Akari/Mara aren't good either. Both come across as easier pushes right now due to Red's low posting and gimmick, and Akari/Mara's lack of good explanation on the Bob vote. I'd expect town to question Akari/Mara, not immediately place a vote.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

The bolded was probably the only thing I disliked because if you’re scumreading a slot, you should never not read that player’s post but other than that I’m not really sure what you’re referring to but I’ll re-ISO them. Gamma definitely needs to post more because I think I can better read him > Infinity.

That part was rhetoric, I read the post.

I don't scumread confidence and I'm not sure where you're getting that. Yes different emotional states are AI or NAI for different players but I strongly believe this one doesn't feel right from town.

-Inf

I guess I’m not seeing what you see then? Chara seems similar here to what she did in Cards of Destiny and To Be or Not To Be.

[Infinity Zero]

Hopefully you'll come around eventually. I guess one problem I had with its response to gamma re:bob is the worry about missing "obvscum" bob who refuses to explain his reads. I'm not sure why this was one of the first things that popped into chara's head, or at least one of the strongest emotional pictures I got from that post. If he's really bad at scum, he shouldn't be too difficult to catch later, given that he's active. People tend to weight their most likely scenarios most highly in their head, so I'm not sure why this is such a big concern for chara. It felt more like it was trying to look unsure about bob's alignment.

-Inf