Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[Cabd]

Votecount 1-9

With 9 players alive, it will take 5 votes to eliminate.

GrandpaMo (1): JacksonVirgo
Ahri (2): Andante, Hand of Glory
Andante (1): skitter30

Not Voting (5): Fizz Raab, Ahri, GeorgeBailey, PookyTheMagicalBear, GrandpaMo

The deadline for day one is set at (expired on 2021-03-31 00:59:36)

Mod Note: I have no life's work better spent than sniping pagetops.

Skitter is V/LA until the heat death of the universe (Monday)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So explain to me you guys as someone who's never played mafia and want to get better at playing the game; how do you do reads? I want to help, but I don't know how to do this.

well you read what people are posting and you type what you think about it.

like you say if you think skitter is "town" or "mafia" based on the thought process she posts in whatever post she makes and explain why you think this is town or scum,

like as you're reading the thread and something jumps out to you as a "townie" thought or a "scummy" post etc, you just type in that you think this and why you think it

[Hand of Glory]

Town Ahri could have D1 vig shot me.

I've heard of setups where you aren't always the role that you think you've been assigned. Or nobody knows how many mafia there are.

I wasn't lying when I said it was my first game of mafia online. There are mafia variants maybe that can be played on a rainy Sunday afternoon. 3-20 min. I've been in some of these, I think, they're always full of newbies though.

No way is Ahri an alt account, but that's neither here nor there.

I can't believe how it wasn't reasonable for me to read the entirety of Newb2057 when I heard of it, or remember Ahri's history better. I am sorry for that as well. It's what, 45 pages in total? Something around those lines.

[Hand of Glory]

No ofc I'm joking.

ahri is my alt shitpost account. I've been had.

[skitter30]

hog i'm a little confused about what you're confused about?
i almost feel like you're referencing convos that i don't have access too or something

either way in this setup there's exactly 2 mafia, and everyone's exactly the role they've been told they were assigned. all of hte possible setups are on p1.
the mod lying to you classifies as 'bastard' and a game has to be described as bastard well in advance of the players signing up for it
(and this game is not one such game, i can promise you)

you don't have to read newb2057 to play this game - i happened to be in that one, and so was andante, and was referencing things they said did there, but there is no pre-requisite that you read that one to play this one

fwiw i thought your analytical style was quite good

[skitter30]

Sorry, I kept missing them, I told yall I wanted ahri here, then basically stopped reading, checking back for if ahri decided to towntell, which she hasn't

* hand of glory. when I am behind and trying to catch up, giant paragraphs are terrible to read, I'm not a fan. so like, it's just a me thing, it's hard to comprehend the paragraphs quickly, and reminds me exactly how I first started playing as scum. you post long "wall posts" and people skim, and it looks like you say a lot. I tried skimming and got confused on one, then just gave up

*dislike scum in me/jv?? no I said if 1 was town the other was for sure going to be maf, but I don't fully remember what I said in that situation, I know GM has gotten a lot of heat this game, GM hasn't responded in a way I think scum would respond, but that's about as far as I am on those right now

* you read most of seeds' paragraphs in the other game, no? and you didn't call him scum for them?
* right - so that's what i said you said. if we flip town and the other is confirmed maf, wouldn't it be good to flip in that pair then? we either get maf or a townie (because then the other player is 'for sure going to be maf')
(i can't say i necessarily agree with this logic, but this is the logic you're positing, and i'm saying that your actions don't match what you're saying here)

[GrandpaMo]

hog i'm a little confused about what you're confused about?
i almost feel like you're referencing convos that i don't have access too or something

either way in this setup there's exactly 2 mafia, and everyone's exactly the role they've been told they were assigned. all of hte possible setups are on p1.
the mod lying to you classifies as 'bastard' and a game has to be described as bastard well in advance of the players signing up for it
(and this game is not one such game, i can promise you)

you don't have to read newb2057 to play this game - i happened to be in that one, and so was andante, and was referencing things they said did there, but there is no pre-requisite that you read that one to play this one

fwiw i thought your analytical style was quite good

yea i thought hog's analytical style was towny. i even noticed the weird change that happened. but idk wtf is hog talking bout now. pls help misunderstand

[skitter30]

Please tell me how you are so confident Ahri is town? Ahri has not outed a single real read. not doing ANYTHING. I get highly annoyed when I'm putting forth all this effort then someone decided to turn the game into a joke. none of ahri's lines are towny

they have tho? why are you saying they don't have real reads?
yes it's dressed up in memes but i think that a lot of what they're saying is real

[GrandpaMo]

The "I fucking hate this game" line is outdated btw, it was when I was still assuming this to be an authentic game, but with a meta I hadn't caught up on until half the town had covertly aligned against me. I think I love this game and I think you've all loved it too, or you would have stopped me earlier. Right? Just the facts and logic.

Since I am the only scum, you were all town, and you were

all

amazing. Even if that might be "brownie points" (hey, it's the wiki that says to have your scumbuddy's back). I'll have more to say a bit later. If you want.

VOTE: Ahri

man's playing in the wrong game lmfao

[skitter30]

So explain to me you guys as someone who's never played mafia and want to get better at playing the game; how do you do reads? I want to help, but I don't know how to do this.

hi! yes! so in this game we try to sort out who the mafia is, and who the townies are. we do this by reading their posts and trying to sort if the posting is suspicious and/or if hte posts more likely to come from scum than town or not

as you've read the game, you've probably got a sense like: wow i really like post 918, and agree with it

or: you know i really don't understand post 509 and i'm suspicious of the motivations that player had for posting it

and then we vote the players we think are the most suspicious in the hopes that we're right and we vote out mafia

even just voicing thoughts like the above is super helpful :)

[GrandpaMo]

So explain to me you guys as someone who's never played mafia and want to get better at playing the game; how do you do reads? I want to help, but I don't know how to do this.

hi! yes! so in this game we try to sort out who the mafia is, and who the townies are. we do this by reading their posts and trying to sort if the posting is suspicious and/or if hte posts more likely to come from scum than town or not

as you've read the game, you've probably got a sense like: wow i really like post 918, and agree with it

or: you know i really don't understand post 509 and i'm suspicious of the motivations that player had for posting it

and then we vote the players we think are the most suspicious in the hopes that we're right and we vote out mafia

even just voicing thoughts like the above is super helpful

did you not see fizz's early game? i felt as tho fizz already knew what they were doing. why are they acting super new ;-;

[skitter30]

honestly i think they're a lttle lost

[GrandpaMo]

Right, but at the same time, it's unfair to vote for someone on day 1 when there's no evidence from games I've seen on here on who's scum and who's not.

this quote seems like they know how to decipher and stuff

[skitter30]

Eh - more like the understand the basic notion of the game in theory but now that they're trying to actually play it realize they dont necessarily know how to

[GrandpaMo]

I like Andante's train of thought on JV

++town

agree!

also what made y'all pivot to a scumread on andante again?

[skitter30]

for andante, a few things:
- they feel kinda weird as compared to newbie 2057, which i just played with them. this isn't inherently scummy but is of note
- i dislike their hand of glory take, feels like an easy way to avoid responding/interacting with his content
- i dislike how they say there's scum in you/jv but then vote outside of the pair

Namely that i find these points above strange, and that i cant seem to get a satisfactory answer on them
You've never addressed the latter two points, and i think this is like the fifth (?) time i asked now

[GrandpaMo]

I like Andante's train of thought on JV

++town

agree!

also what made y'all pivot to a scumread on andante again?

wait i mean just you.

because pooky is supposedly sheeping ur read (even tho townreading him), idk perhaps a pocket?

[skitter30]

Ugh i screwed up the quote tags, sorry ^

[GrandpaMo]

Ugh i screwed up the quote tags, sorry ^

why r u forcing pooky to sheep ur read? it almost feels like a guilt trip

[GrandpaMo]

@pooky you said this r.e. andante but like i really disagree and find this very unsatisfying

ok well I'll sheep ya if you feel like super strongly about it :>

referring to this, forgot the quote^

[skitter30]

Well i wasnt really guilttripping him or asked him to change his vote, injust wanted to know more abt ehy he townreads andante and that's what i got back

[GrandpaMo]

Well i wasnt really guilttripping him or asked him to change his vote, injust wanted to know more abt ehy he townreads andante and that's what i got back

bad reaction from pooky imo. this is the 2nd time pooky had a bad reaction first which no one answered my question to >:( and just sheeping u

[skitter30]

I'm not like convinced the sheeping is ai tho

[GrandpaMo]

I'm not like convinced the sheeping is ai tho

well im using the other scum quote with that analysis. idk if that read is geninue but usually mafia sheeps other people's reads even and just claim wifom bs like i wouldn't make it that obvious as mafia just to seem aligned with skitter or something and stuff like that

[GrandpaMo]

i really wish georgebailey was here... lurking isn't a really good sign. im giving u the benefit of the doubt. i think most here are. as to my reads... im still holding it up to par. jackson/pooky . fizz/skitter.

andante and hog could also have the same allignment here btw. im not too sure with ahri. im not reading ahri right rn alongside with georgebailey (lack of contribution)