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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:01 pm
by Et Al
In post 373, Nexus wrote:you found it stressful and needed something to do.
So you don't think I thought I would be townread for it? or what? If I was stressed and didn't know what to post as scum, why wouldn't I just not post anything at that particular moment?

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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:02 pm
by Bell
In post 373, Nexus wrote:The point of LAMIST posting is that it’s a way of trying to seem town because scum know they aren’t town. As a hydra in a game with anti hydra people which had already been told that there was a desire to nuke hydras, LAMIST actions are a good way to try and deflect. That’s why I think you did it, because you are hyper aware of the fact that as a hydra you will automatically face pressure, which, if you were town, you’d find easier to deflect, but as your PM was a scum PM, you found it stressful and needed something to do. Your reactions also haven’t changed my mind.

I repeat. Why u mad.
I'm not sure if you're talking to me. My question is no about the point, all scum posts are motivationally directed toward the goal of fooling you. I just wonder if there's an actual statistical significance to people "trying to seem town" versus just being town.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:02 pm
by Bell
It's really late you guys, why are you posting.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:21 pm
by mastina
In post 369, Bell wrote:@Mastina, you didn't really answer the question about why you write so much, I'm curious too!
Oh, that?

Simple; I'm autistic. :P

Being autistic means that I struggle to find the words most people use, so I use ten words to say what others say with two, because my brain is wired in such a way that I literally couldn't think of the two words to say until after I had said the ten, usually by someone pointing out "couldn't you have said those ten words by using just these two?".

There's also a desire to perfectly capture the concept of my thought and translate it into text. If I feel like the concept isn't explained with just one word/sentence even if one word/sentence might be sufficient to get the general idea, I add extras to reinforce the more exact meaning.

That, combined with a desire for literary flow. Even with my autistic ass brain, I can cut out some words here and there but deliberately choose to leave them in--because I made the judgement call that in having done so, the words flow better. Adding in rhymes, adding in alliteration, adding in repetition, where otherwise it would be absent.
In post 372, Bell wrote:Rather that she tends to pick up on people who are trying to look town and town reads them.
Actually I am RIDICULOUSLY good at picking up someone trying to be town without actually BEING town. Like, if scum are trying to look town without being town, I'm almost definitely, like 90+%, going to catch them.

Unfortunately, for whatever reason, scum aren't exclusively among those who try to be town without being town; I will scumread town who I believe were trying to look town without them actually being town.

So my problem isn't reading scum trying to be town as town; my problem is reading town trying to be town as scum. :P

I'm fairly good at identifying some town that're genuinely BEING town, but unfortunately there are some instances of scum that act in a way that I feel wasn't forced, where they were organic and natural in a way that radiated town energy in spite of them being scum. These instances are fairly rare tho because most scum can't do that, they can either try to be town without being town or don't try to be town and don't look town.

A player able to radiate town without forcing it, without trying to, as scum, is the hallmark of the highest caliber of scum player. That or the sheer dumbest luckiest ones who accidentally manage to achieve the feat while ignorant of having done so.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:35 pm
by Nexus
In post 377, Bell wrote:It's really late you guys, why are you posting.
It's 8am.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:35 pm
by Nexus
In post 375, Et Al wrote:
In post 373, Nexus wrote:you found it stressful and needed something to do.
So you don't think I thought I would be townread for it? or what? If I was stressed and didn't know what to post as scum, why wouldn't I just not post anything at that particular moment?

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Why are you so mad about it? If you were town, you'd simply have noted my criticism and moved on. The fact that you are still obsessed with trying to defend yourself is, in itself, scummy. Move on.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:46 pm
by Toogeloo
Step 1: Establish Trust

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:12 am
by Vaxkiller
@mastina

It's bothering me a little that your scum reading me so hard. My role says town. I'm not acting any different than the last game we just played together as both town, and you hard town read me there. I'm not sure how I feel about all this and your alignment at the moment. It just seems weird.

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 12:44 am
by samantha97
In post 382, Vaxkiller wrote:It's bothering me a little that your scum reading me so hard. My role says town. I'm not acting any different than the last game we just played together as both town, and you hard town read me there. I'm not sure how I feel about all this and your alignment at the moment. It just seems weird.
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:00 am
by The Church of Skitter
In post 369, Bell wrote:I think this is town mastina, but I'm how Melanque feels about me and how best to approach me is how I feel about Mastina.
Except that with me it's totally unnecessary because I'm not hard to sort while Mastina could be.
In post 369, Bell wrote:I think this is town mastina, but I'm how Melanque feels about me and how best to approach me is how I feel about Mastina.
In post 369, Bell wrote:but I'm how Melanque feels about me
In post 369, Bell wrote:Melanque
Image

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:00 am
by The Church of Skitter
Also uh

How do I feel about you bell?

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:00 am
by The Church of Skitter
Like I don’t think I have a standard approach on you yet really?

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:33 am
by joqiza
folks, after further research i have learned that not only are troop drafts based on whoever PMs the mod first in defcon 4, but defcon 4 itself starts not when deadline is reached / when defcon 5 is hammered, but rather when the mod posts that it is defcon 4

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 4:39 am
by joqiza
not sure i'm a huge fan of this system but when in rome

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:03 am
by Bell
In post 248, The Church of Skitter wrote:
In post 243, Prism wrote:I guess Bell is town and we don't get our free Russian
I mean, yes, probably?
But my experience with scum!Bell has always been "He's townie at first but if you wait you'll find out he actually stopped playing the game and isn't townie anymore" so its usually just best to keep an open mind about these things.
@Mena, unless this wasn't you, in which case I'M SORRY.
@mastina, I see. I don't have autism, but I struggle often with trying to be exact enough to be understood, but concise enough that people actually read what I write (at work, in mafia, I don't try as hard for that balance). It's a difficult road to navigate. Though striving to describe things well is cool.

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:09 am
by The Church of Skitter
That was ali lol

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:11 am
by Cephrir
In post 387, joqiza wrote:folks, after further research i have learned that not only are troop drafts based on whoever PMs the mod first in defcon 4, but defcon 4 itself starts not when deadline is reached / when defcon 5 is hammered, but rather when the mod posts that it is defcon 4
:/

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:12 am
by Cephrir
Joqiza is maybe confirmed town for posting this at least

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:12 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
RESEARCH IS UNAMERICAN

DONT WORRY ABOUT DRAFTING THERE WILL BE NUKES FOR ALL OF US

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:18 am
by T3
Ceph probably town.
Pooky, do you have reads? (other than steak as obvtown)

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:24 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I AM NOT STATING MY READS IN CASE THE RUSSKIES NIGHTKILL ME BEFORE I GET MY CHANCE TO USE NUKES TO SEND THEM TO KINGDOM COME

SOME BRILLIANT GENIUSES DECIDED TO GO FOR THE WUSS OPTION SO INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO DELIVER HOT NUCLEAR JUSTICE TO THE BADDIES RIGHT AWAY I HAVE TO LET THEM SHOOT AT ME FIRST AND WE HAVE TO PRETEND TO DO SOME COURT TV NONSENSE

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:29 am
by Bell
In post 392, Cephrir wrote:Joqiza is maybe confirmed town for posting this at least
Not sure, the only town read that I feel comfortable with RN is Mastina.

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:39 am
by The Church of Skitter
In post 395, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I AM NOT STATING MY READS IN CASE THE RUSSKIES NIGHTKILL ME BEFORE I GET MY CHANCE TO USE NUKES TO SEND THEM TO KINGDOM COME
SOUNDS LIKE FILTHY COWARD COMMIE TALK TO ME

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:40 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 397, The Church of Skitter wrote:SOUNDS LIKE FILTHY COWARD COMMIE TALK TO ME
WHEN YOU TRY TO SOUND LIKE ME IT DOESNT COME OUT RIGHT

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 5:50 am
by SirCakez
In post 318, Et Al wrote:
@mod will the deadline be suspended if there are slots that need replacing?


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